OT: Detroit Lions - Sad State of the Pontiac Silverdome

Submitted by boliver46 on

Came across an article depicting the sad state of the Pontiac Silverdome.  Some of the best memories I have in my Detroit Lions fandom happened at that larger than life (to me as a kid) venue.  My first football games with my dad, and memories of Barry Sanders' unbelieveable cuts and some of the "glory years" of Lions Football (I know, 1 playoff win in forever) were made there.

The sorry state of the Silverdome today:

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Guess I wasn't aware the roof collapsed speeding the already rapid deterioration of this iconic building.  Maybe I'm too sentimental for a Wednesday, but I miss the Silverdome and am sad this is what it's become.  It's too bad it couldn't have been turned into something useful.

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LSAClassOf2000

April 30th, 2014 at 10:30 AM ^

According to the WDIV video, the dome failed about a year ago, so between that and this past winter, it is difficult to imagine the amount of cosmetic damge alone to various parts of the building and field area. The news piece showed people taking home the seats which were theirs or their parents' actually, so that was rather neat to see though. 

Still sad to see it in that state. My first Lions game ever was in 1984 and we made the trek from Northville to Pontiac. Like many here perhaps, I saw Barry play more than a few times in that building too. 

jmblue

April 30th, 2014 at 11:03 AM ^

Calling it an "iconic building" might be a bit of a stretch.  It was a carbon copy of the Metrodome, RCA Dome and some others I'm forgetting.

Still sad to see a building abandoned less than 40 years into its existence.  Our society's got to get it right when it builds stadiums.  Replacing them every generation is such a waste.

mgobleu

April 30th, 2014 at 11:06 AM ^

I had to suffer through linkin park, limp bizkit, deftones and who knows what other damned disgrace that tried to call their caterwalling "music" just to see metallica. Now I'm a metallica fan, (or at least I was when I could still stomach that sort of music) but this was the tour they were trying to push that pile of piss "st. anger" on us. WOW was that an awful day. I do have to say that I remember the dome being in relatively nice shape, but my gosh did that show suck. The whitest and trashiest of all the white trash in the land...

uminks

May 1st, 2014 at 10:22 AM ^

Just to see Metallica. They were on one of the small stages and VH was the main bill that Weekend. Dokken and some other band was playing there as well. Oh well, them were the days! I treid to get my Uncle to take me to see Zep. I was only 14 at the time.

taistreetsmyhero

April 30th, 2014 at 11:06 AM ^

a soccer game between Panathaniakos and AC Milan back in maybe 2009 or 2010...one of the worst experiences of my life. We got to exit for 59 a good 90 minutes before kickoff. Didn't get into the parking lot until half time. They had two people working the entire parking lot for buying parking. Unreal levels of logistical ineptitude

BlueinLansing

April 30th, 2014 at 11:39 AM ^

what a massive stadium that was by NFL standards.

There's nothing iconic about it except the debt load on the city of Pontiac.  Its ugly from the outside, surrounded by parking and frankly a long way from anywher anybody would normally go. 

  The only reason it was never torn down was because Pontiac needed any revenue stream and couldn't afford to demolish it.  When it became untennable and to costly to maintain properly so it was sold dirt cheap to someone with an idea.

 

This is how buildings end up like this.

DY

April 30th, 2014 at 2:27 PM ^

It's seating capacity was also the main reason Lions home games were blacked-out in metro Detroit for the better portion of the team's tenure there. The very few occassions the Lions were on MNF Channel 7 would end up buying the surplus tickets just so the local broadcast audience could see the game. Why anyone thought the Lions would draw 80,000 on a weekly basis is a mystery.

BlueinLansing

April 30th, 2014 at 5:55 PM ^

I believe the Silverdome was built before blackout restrictions became an NFL thing.

 

On the otherhand, when it was full, and on Thanksgivings, there weren't too many more raucus energetic and loud crowds around the NFL.  IF you ignored the numerous drunks and fights it was a pretty good time.

uminks

May 1st, 2014 at 10:29 AM ^

TV 6 in Lansing use to show Lion home games every Sunday because when they played at Tigers stadium, Lansing was more than 50 miles from the Stadium, as a crow flies. When the Lions moved to Pontiac CH 6 could no longer show Lions home games because they were within the 50 mile circumference of the Silver-dome and the blackout rule applied! That sucked as kin in '75 not being able to watch Lions home games!

Prince Lover

April 30th, 2014 at 11:45 AM ^

But I will say, back in '95, the Silverdome was where I witnessed God. However, a lot of psychedelics and Pink Floyd playing Dark Side of the Moon from start to finish might have been the reason more than the building though....

1974

April 30th, 2014 at 11:55 AM ^

Dating myself hugely here ... Back in '82 (Uncle Rico voice) I saw a triple-header concert there: Eddie Money, The Clash, and The Who. Lousy sound but good times.

UMgradMSUdad

April 30th, 2014 at 7:07 PM ^

You're a youngster.  I went to the Led Zepplin concert there in 1977, but my memory of the event is a bit hazy, kind of like photographs showing the upper stadium from that concert.

WolverineHistorian

April 30th, 2014 at 11:57 AM ^

When I was in high school (Dearborn High), we used to always play our season finale against Woodhaven at the Silverdome.  Always had a blast there.  I went to a few Lions games there as well.  Those pics are pretty depressing. 

Avon Barksdale

April 30th, 2014 at 11:59 AM ^

Not to get too off topic, but I miss Tiger Stadium. First professional baseball game ever - a 9-0 thumping of Detroit by (I think the Brewers). Perhaps, it was one of the first years of interleague play.

French West Indian

April 30th, 2014 at 12:14 PM ^

When Barry Sanders was doing his magic, it was pretty much the loudest place I've ever been to.  Really intense noise in that dome. 

Also, loved all the fights breaking out and even the huge haze of cigarette smoke filling the place by the second half.  Gameday experiences are so sterile feeling now.

jmblue

April 30th, 2014 at 12:58 PM ^

BTW, how does a roof end up like that, with the center panels mostly intact and the other ones totally gone?  Are vandals stealing the teflon?

TheCool

April 30th, 2014 at 1:35 PM ^

Born and raised in Pontiac, and the way the City Council treated the sale of the Silverdome was completely moronic and selfish. The had better offers years ago, but held off because they wanted more money for themselves. Eventually selling the humongous Silverdome + the land for the cost of a large house in a nice neighborhood. An example of why my city is craptastic now, the city was run by selfish morons for decades.

I remember game days at the Silverdome. I grew up across the street on Maurer, which is parallel to Featherstone. My pops was a firefighter so he had to work the games and on a few occassions he took me with him. I recall standing in the tunnel as the Lions walked out and seeing Thee Barry Sanders walk down the tunnel then seeing Jason Hanson being taller than him. I think I was about 10, so it was hilarious. I think the Lions lost to the Vikings and Barry Sanders had about 200 yards rushing or so.

TorontoBlue

April 30th, 2014 at 2:01 PM ^

Remember the 1988 NBA Finals played in the Silverdome with a big black "baggy" cutting out about a third of one end.  Pistons lost Game 6 in the Forum by a point with Isiah Thomas playing with a broken wheel, then lost Game 7 by three in the Silverdome after being down by 15 with about 5 minutes left.  That was one of the Bad Boy's greatest moments!

GO BLUE!

readyourguard

April 30th, 2014 at 4:29 PM ^

Just a couple years ago you could rent the field for soccer or football practice.  They also had outdoor movie screens installed where they showed a few different flicks.  It's too bad they couldn't make something out of it.

The owners paid $550,000 for the joint.  The seats and other memrobilia-type things have some value, along with the scrap steel and copper but not enough to cover the cost of demolition.  I wonder what the property value is?

BlueinLansing

April 30th, 2014 at 5:59 PM ^

there were at least 2 other very large vacant parcels within just a mile or so vacant.  They used to be old auto suppliers.  I can't believe the land has much if any value at all given its location and the potential cost to demolish the dome.

 

basically if you need 100 acres in Pontiac there are plenty of other options with smaller demolition costs.

 

 

slimj091

April 30th, 2014 at 6:22 PM ^

last i heard they deflated the roof, and planned to replace it with a hard roof amoung other renovations. some people seem to be under the impression the stadium was abandoned since the lions moved to ford field. just looks to me that the deflated roof took damage from this past winter's shitty weather.

XM - Mt 1822

April 30th, 2014 at 9:57 PM ^

not a great stadium, though i did see the who, eddie money and the clash there one night - not so bad.  i long for the days of tiger stadium when the lions played outdoors.  i remember a game against the vikings when minnesota wore their road white jerseys and pants.  it was snowing so hard during the game that all you could see was their purple helmets, and only just barely.

 

 

Hi Gang

May 1st, 2014 at 2:45 AM ^

are able to have death row inmate gladiator fights for spring "seasons", and are able to change the name from Silverdome to Thunderdome, it's just going to be a decaying monument of what was.

I give you...the barbarian horde.

Something for an archaeloogist after fallout to figure out.

 

Honestly, I can see this kind of think continuing.  Alabama is having trouble selling out home games against no-name teams.  The Tide is religion down there.  I'll take my man cave over nearly every fall game in a stadium.  I wouldn't have said that a few years ago.  I know the silverdome is dead because the Lions moved, but consider stadiums in general... 

Hockey has it right, almost.  Not a huge stadium - compared to football and baseball.  Those can sell out without having a spectacular team.  Where they have it wrong is having so many games.  I can't get up for a hockey, basketball (pro), or baseball game until it starts to really matter.  There are just too many for an individual game to mean much.  Yeah, it's all revenue, but I wonder if interest fades with so many meaningless games to the point where it actually does harm to the point where interest drops out and people see it as it is - a business.  It's so obvious already.  I actually try to not look further than coaches salaries because the plenty rest of it makes me feel like a dumb ass for even stressing and certainly spending $'s following it.

But consider your 60 inch 1080ppi screen, normal priced beer you can drink to your content, a nice couch, a private bathroom, no drive, no parking $'s, no prep, no crouds, no deafeningly loud stadium music, basically free to watch, sleeping in on Saturday morning (a personal treasure for me).  Just you, or you and your buds/family.

Football is different, but not entirely.  College or Pro - every game counts.  A football Saturday or Sunday is an event - well, the first game against a no-name team, and the bigger games.  Tailgating, the game, post tailgating.  But even the Purdue type games can be an event.  It's worth the cost and inconvienence.  But I no long get season tickets.  I typically go to a couple games every year, and enjoy watching most of the games in comfort at home or at someone else's home.

PS - I'm a Sparty (and thank you for giving us that national brand ;) ).  I only bring this up because those back to back 11 wins seasons were different; a caveat.  Then, it was an amazing experience to actually be at those games.  Understand, it was an awesome community experience being at Spartan Stadium when we were turning the corner into uncharted territory.  We had a good season every ten years or so, but this felt different.  That's when it's worth the cold and rain, and everything else - when confidence was gaining that corner was being turned, and being at the stadium with fans that suffered through mediocrity (at best sometimes) for decades.  People - strangers - everywhere would literally turn around and hug each other after big wins.  Trust me, our fan base has desperately wanted, and have for so long waited for this.  I've never experienced anything like those back to back seasons, compared to all of my many seasons at Spartan Stadium.  2013 was no different - although I didn't make a game last season.  There was that same feeling at work and elsewhere.  Actually, it was the same thing, but better.  Everyone thought we were a 6-6 team after the first two games - a mid-MAC level offense.  Then, it happened again.  Even if UofM is the bigten champ next year, I would assume it still wouldn't compare to MSU's 2010, 2011, and 2013.  Count yourselves lucky you don't know what I mean.  But that's the one time where, IMO, season tickets, and even away games are no contest worth it.  Now, I'm afraid that we've come to expect that as the norm.  It won't feel the same, and losses against really good teams become depressing.  But there's something exceptional about being right there when you're turning the corner and knocking out the heavy weights when you just recenlty were thought of as fodder. 

Okay, back to my point.

The Paradox of Choice right here.  Back when most college games weren't on TV (I'm old), and I was a kid, I loved every moment (except for losing) when I went to football games.  Now, I weigh the options, sometimes wish went when I didn't, and sometimes wish I stayed home and recovered from the work week with an easy day on the couch watching not just my game, but catching other game highlights.  Just tired by early Saturday night when I needed to relax.  Almost doesn't make sense to sit through a rainy or freezing game on a metal bench when the next best thing is actually better - and essentially free.

And "old" matters.  Look at how many old dudes sit through college games.  That is part of their culture.  I wonder if the younger dudes today are going to put up with cold, rain...all the stuff I mentioned above when their future improved 3D 4000ppi (something like that is already in the works) 90 inch screen will put them right there.  Now, consider the other sports that are essentially also rans to football for most sports fans.

Consider the bigten network price (probably already with the package you'd have anyway) vs season tickets - not to mention all of the other costs and inconveniences.  I'm thinking a couple regular season games per year is what most younger fans will want in the not too distant future.  Students don't count.  They will drink and go to the games as long as their team can still be bowl eligible. 

Massive stadiums may well point to a time when TV's were low def boxes that got 3-channels, entertainmet was relatively scarce (certainly by today's tech world), sports was king, admisson was much more reasonable, a parking pass didn't require a obscene donation just to make you eligable to then pay another obscene amount to park, pro players retired with the teams that drafted them - hard to be loyal when the players aren't, when kids didn't have "drive me to and pick me up" weekend activities all year, and chilling out from work on a Saturday or Sunday wasn't quite as necessary.  

Or maybe it's just me.