http://www.freep.com/article/20130205/SPORTS01/130205052/detroit-Lions-c...
It has been also reported by USA today that the Lions have cut DE Kyle Vanden Bosch. Lions i'm sure are going all in on Cliff Avril.
Also no more Holds on holds on holds from stephen peterman
Whoa whoa whoa. I haven't
He's getting old and they
He's getting old and they would have to pay him a lot next year.
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Well...
He was a very good DE once upon a time. Nowadays he's listed by pro football focus as the worst 4-3 DE in the leauge. Kind of cold for the Lions to cut him after they made such an effort to sign him, but they're going to get some big savings out of it.
The lions pressure this year
The lions pressure this year came from the interior linemen ie Fairley, Suh, and Williams (when healthy) KVB's production does not equal his contract, he was good his first year, average last year, and pretty awful this year.
It's a necessary move because the Lions need the cap space in the worst way, and are looking to get younger at defensive end. I don't expect Avril to be brought back either so we very much need Werner or Moore to fall to us at 5.
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KVB was very poor this
KVB was very poor this season. He just doesn't have it anymore
ALL ABOARD THE A-TRAIN!!!!!
" ~ Herm "
This is more surprising to
This is more surprising to me. I thought they'd hold on to VandenBosch, but I guess they had enough after he got his guaranteed half of the contract out of the way. It does look like they're committing to Avril, as they should, but for how much? Everybody saw bodies leaving our OLine too, but I definitely wasn't expecting Peterman to be the first to go.
EDIT: Did anybody else read that Pro Football Focus graded Cherilus as the #2 RT in the NFL last year? I know he got better, but I didn't think he improved that much. I guess I took it for granted he still sucked. They'll likely resign him as well, now.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
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They should cut everyone on
They should cut everyone on that team except for Megatron, Stafford, Suh, Tulloch, and The other D Linemen from Auburn. I can't remember his name right now.
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I believe if you think
I believe if you think Fairley hard about it, you'll figure it out.
Nick Fairley
Thank you kind sir
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Yep. He'll realize it just in the nick of time too.
"I have three kids and no money. Why can't I have no kids and three money?"
Man these jokes are
Man these jokes are money!
/SEC
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Don't you mean punny?
ha..... ha
"I have three kids and no money. Why can't I have no kids and three money?"
And if you do it quickly it
And if you do it quickly it will be in the nick of time, before someone spoils it for you.
5 4 3 2 1 Touchdown!
Touchdown Billy Taylor!
Touchdown Billy Taylor!
Doh!
Doh!
5 4 3 2 1 Touchdown!
Touchdown Billy Taylor!
Touchdown Billy Taylor!
As long as they hold on to
As long as they hold on to Stefan Logan, they'll be fine.
That'd be a fair catch to
That'd be a fair catch to keep.
5 4 3 2 1 Touchdown!
Touchdown Billy Taylor!
Touchdown Billy Taylor!
Logan is very clutch in case
Logan is very clutch in case we ever want to down the ball on our own 4 yard line...PAY THE MAN!
sarcasm at its finest
3-3-5 til the day I die y'all
please let Dominic Raiola be
please let Dominic Raiola be next....
This would make me so happy
This would make me so happy if they did that, but I know they won't.
He and Backus will be gone
He and Backus will be gone next year at the latest, so they're already looking at replacements. If they can get a decent Center I'm sure they'd be happy to not pay Raiola his $6m this year. I can haz Barrett Jones falling to the 2nd round?
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
I would love that as well
I would love that as well too. That might be a long shot in my opinion. I would like to see millner in the first and jones in the second. To replace DE they could go after freeney.
We might be able to poach
We might be able to poach some other rebuilding teams for DE's as well. Kruger from Baltimore would be a better get for the contract Avril turned down, and Dallas has 2 top DE's to resign this year, too. Drafting Jarvis Jones would even be an upgrade to Avril for less money.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
VDB numbers2010:11 games,
KVB numbers
2010:
11 games, 34 tackles, 15 assists, 4 sacks
2011:
16 games, 26 tackles, 11 assists, 8 sacks
2012:
16 games, 28 tackles, 8 assists, 3.5 sacks
I'm guessing it is a money thing.
Good moves
Vanden Bosch will turn 35 next season, had 3.5 sacks, and was scheduled to make around $7 million, so that was a no-brainer. Peterman was mediocre, 31 years old, and was scheduled to make $3.2 million. In the NFL, you have to pay your stars, but the surest way to cap hell is overpaying mediocre players. Glad to see that the Lions are realizing this rather than hanging onto guys for sentimental value.
Actually no
His hit would be around 10.4 million. He restructured his deal twice in the last two years.
Avril won't be back
He wants too much money, and we can replace him in the draft.
Gosner Cherilus is the 2nd
Gosner Cherilus is the 2nd best Right Tackle in the NFL, did i miss something ?
This is Michigan
This seems about right.
This seems about right. Hopefully they make the right decision and draft a number of OLineman in the next draft. They need to protect Stafford. If they can't block, everything else is totally worthless.
HOKEAMANIA RUNNIN' WILD
Formerly, TheLastProphet
Actually, the Lions did a good job of protecting Stafford.
Where they need help is the run game. But more importantly they need a defense. They need help at every level on defense.
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
Especially at Safety, and our
Especially at Safety, and our outside pass rush. At both Safety positions we had 7 different guys starting. It's a revolving door. Both Speivey and Delmas are always injured, or coming off of injury, and both are UFAs this year.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
I hope this is Swartz theory replace him with homer
Homer Simpson: Good practice, kids. Now it's time for the easiest part of any coach's job. The cuts. Although I wasn't able to cut everyone I wanted to, I have cut a lot of you. Wendell is cut. Rudy is cut. Janey, you're gone. Steven, I like your hustle
[Steven smiles]
Homer Simpson: . That's why it was so hard to cut you
[Steven's smile drops]
Homer Simpson: . Congratulations, the rest of you made the team!
[random sighs of relief]
Homer Simpson: Except you, you and you.
And you. Take a lap. Then
And you. Take a lap. Then your cut.
Coach Hoke once told me that a moral victory is still a (expletive deleted) loss.
Now let's all hit the showers!
Now let's all hit the showers! Oh Rod, you don't have to, you're cut.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."
-John Heisman
Doesn't matter to me what the Lions do
as long as they don't draft any Michigan players.
Stephen. Unintended causualty
Stephen. Unintended causualty of Kramer's "Peterman reality tour".
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Good
KVB was not producing based on what we paid him. Secondly when you look at all the dumb penalties our defense took, he also clearly wasn't providing any kind of veteran leadership that would justify keeping him around despite a drop in production. I feel like Detroit really paid him so he could help the younger members of our front seven mature and that never happened.
The Rams just claimed WR Titus Young
Way to recognize excellence in the workplace!
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Jeff Fisher
must no longer be speaking to Jim Schwartz.
...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...
This is actually a really
This is actually a really smart move as there is very little risk with HUGE short term and maybe even long term upside. We know he has the talent to be successful, so he either gets to be happy being a lead dog and get the ball all day or he self destructs by continuing to be a dickhead and Fisher & Co. cut him during the preseason.
"Oh no, no, I'm not in the group yet. No, I'm afraid I just blue myself."
Not really surprised. I
Not really surprised. I remember reading an article talking about how Peterman gave up 50+ qb pressures, which is an unheard of amount of for a guard. Vanden Bosch was one of the worst DEs in the league in pressures per rush or something and on top of that teams were able to single blocked him with a TEs more than anyone.
It scares me that Detroit
It scares me that Detroit continues to have trouble on the offensive line. I'm not saying Peterman was an answer, but if Peterman was a starter they rather quickly parted with, that doesn't give me much hope about depth.
The Lions have only been
The Lions have only been rebuilding since 1957; give them a little more time. Then you'll see them "restore the bore." Uh...roar.
Their MO has always been to rely on one or two stars, like a Barry Sanders, or a Megatron, or a Billy Sims, surround that player with mediocre talent, and hope like hell to make the playoffs and be one and done.
This is not a new strategy. They've never built the nucleus of a great team since Ford has been the owner.
They don't know how. I don't expect them to figure it out during what remains of my lifetime.
Whoa whoa whoa. I haven't followed the Lions very closesly so correct me if I'm wrong. I was under the impression that KVB was one of our better D-Linemen. I know he is getting older, but wasn't he at least supposed to be part of why Suh and Fairley had a good shot with the lions, because he could pass on all his experience?
I really don't know how good KVB is or was, but maybe he was just a really experienced guy that we don't need as much. Any insight into the career KVB had with the lions would be appreciated.