OT: Derrick Rose Hurt AGAIN

Submitted by RogueRage on

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/12378016/chicago-bulls-guard-derrick-rose-undergo-surgery-repair-torn-meniscus-table-uncertain

It was just announced that Derrick Rose will miss the rest of the season because of another knee injury. What do you think we'll see first, Derrick Rose play 82 games in a season or Jim Harbaugh coach the Raiders?

Tater

February 24th, 2015 at 11:28 PM ^

I always have two hopes for any athlete: that he saves his money and knows when to quit.  All of that money isn't any good if the athlete gets scammed out of it, blows it or is too infirm to enjoy it when he retires.  Rose needs to retire while he can still walk. Hopefully, he has put enough money away to enjoy his life.

StateStreetBlue

February 25th, 2015 at 12:12 AM ^

It completely depends on the severity and the area of tear on the meniscus. I've (unfortunately) had multiple knee surgeries, but only had minor tears of the meniscus which were easily reparable. My orthopedic surgeon (an NFL team doctor) was emphatic that I was lucky with the meniscus as ACL’s can be replaced, but meniscuses can’t.

Pinky

February 24th, 2015 at 11:08 PM ^

Well Derrick Rose is the first All-Star to tear his ACL since Danny Manning in 1995, and several of the best trainers in Basketball have questioned why he seems to get hurt so often, including Alan Stein and Marcus Elliot, so apparently it's not that intuitive.  

Rose himself said "from high school, college and to now, I really haven't been lifiting weights." It sounds like his training has pretty much sucked since he started playing basketball.

taistreetsmyhero

February 24th, 2015 at 11:27 PM ^

you read this article http://www.stack.com/2014/11/19/derrick-rose-injuries/ which goes into several very intuitive theories for why derrick rose has been injured so much.

i also question that statement...rajon rondo, baron davis. I also question the relevance of looking at just acl tears to argue your point. I also question the relevance of using just all stars.

Pinky

February 24th, 2015 at 11:35 PM ^

There are hundreds of players in the NBA.  Almost all of them push their bodies to extreme lengths, and yet almost none of them suffer a torn ACL and two torn menisci in three years.  There is nothing intuitive about the number of injuries Derrick Rose has suffered, unless of course you don't understand the meaning of the word "intuitive."

Sac Fly

February 25th, 2015 at 4:52 AM ^

Rose never matured in his game. He was never able to understand when to pull it out or slow the game down, he was always in attack mode.

Starting in his rookie year it was only a matter of time before he was going to get hurt with how ofter he took it to the rim and the kind of hits he took. 

OccaM

February 24th, 2015 at 11:00 PM ^

Elite athletes play their respective sport, usually, since childhood. The human body can only take so much. Especially in basketball when your knees are constantly getting exposed to awkward angles and force from jumping. 

It's also why athletes seem to start losing their "explosiveness" in basketball by around 30. Even LeBron is feeling it this year. 

Muttley

February 25th, 2015 at 10:39 AM ^

It was during an untouched sharp cut at the goal line that Drake Johnson tore his knee (ACL?) last year at the goal line versus Ohio State.  Touchdown, but too much strain on the knee.

And have you ever seen some of Barry Sanders moves? I remember one in which in real time he appeared to just stop in front of the defender as he was going left, and then start back up, leaving the defender completely flat-footed.  How did that freeze the defender so completely in stone?

Well, in slow motion, it showed Barry not just stopping, but cutting back to the right by pushing off with his left leg.  Then somehow, with only his left leg on the ground he changed directions and went left instead.  I guess that requires enough friction with the ground and incredible inner and outer thigh muscle strength to overcome the torque to pull that off.  I've also seen Isiah Thomas do it.  Me?  Never even dreamed of making a move like that.

bronxblue

February 24th, 2015 at 11:18 PM ^

Because when you push your body to the maximum limits of it to compete, sometimes things break?  I mean, weekend warriors tear their ACLs (and similar injuries) all the time because they do something wrong in competition or their bodies can't handle the strain, but we don't hear about it on a national stage.  And sure, tearing ACLs isn't as common in basketball as other injuries, but the guys you remember lasting are due as much to survivor bias as an inherent ability to not get injured.

JamieH

February 25th, 2015 at 12:05 AM ^

doesn't somehow make you immune from injuries.  Especially not tendon and ligament injuries.  There is only so much you can do to avoid them.  Some players are going to be more prone to them than others just through genetics.

 

Anyway, asking this question after a torn meniscus is ridiculous.  A huge number of "elite" athlete teas=r their meniscus at some point in their lives.  The age they do it at and the severity of the tear differs.  Usually it happens after age 30 or so as the cartlidge gets less flexible.  Sometimes if the tear is located properly it will clip itself off and basically take care of itself but surgery usually speeds up the process. 





Yeah, Rose is injury prone, no question.  Sucks for him, sucks for his fans.  But it certainly isn't unprecidented.  He's obviously not the first "elite" athlete to have injury issues.

MGoMarley

February 25th, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^

I heard Michael Wilbon this morning talking about how devastating this injury is for Bulls fans. The fans? how about how devastating this is to D Rose.  This is his love, his livelyhood and it may be over.  He probably feels like he has let everyone down.  The fans shouldn't be devastated, they should be supportive.

 

When Levert was injured I didn't think aw this sucks for us Michigan fans.  I thought, man that is awful for Caris to work that hard only to reinjure his foot and have one of his collegiate seasons taken away.

Rhino77

February 24th, 2015 at 11:02 PM ^

I live in Chicago, it's time for him to shut it down and for the Bulls to move on. He just isn't built for the NBA. Everything is there except his tendons and ligaments.




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boers21

February 24th, 2015 at 11:18 PM ^

This is really tough to see as a Bulls fan. This guy has been the most humble star in a long time. There's not an unbiased fan out there who could say a bad word about him. Really feel for the guy, heartbreaking us diehards....

redhousewolverine

February 25th, 2015 at 1:07 AM ^

When you're rookie of the year and then follow that up with two back to back all star seasons, with one season being an MVP season, one can see how he could be arrogant. But I guess his humility, combined with his trying childhood home environment make him an easy target for fan ridicule. Sorry his knees aren't holding up. I'm sure he loves the fact that his knees can't hold up in the last couple seasons.

boers21

February 24th, 2015 at 11:20 PM ^

Don't underestimate Thibideau's role in this. Two of the three times he's been hurt he was playing in garbage time when there was absolutely no reason for starters to be in, a Thibideau special.

CoachBP6

February 24th, 2015 at 11:25 PM ^

Never was a fan of rose but seeing someone who loves their craft consistently injured really sucks. Feel sorry for him.

Perkis-Size Me

February 24th, 2015 at 11:28 PM ^

At this point, do the Bulls just have to sit there and say it's time to move on? Nothing against Rose, but his career has been nothing but injuries.

Rose himself might also want to seriously consider calling it a career. That's obviously something no true athlete ever wants to think about, and I get it. But at what point do you start risking permanent damage? The guy really has to think about his long-term well being at this point.




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