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January 16th, 2013 at 7:22 PM | Wish (Score:2 Normal)
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This story would have broken say, five hours ago, so I could have been on tr company dime while reading these updates....

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:22 PM | I read the article and I'm (Score:2 Normal)
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I read the article and I'm still utterly confused. What the hell was the point of all this? I get the increased sympathy publicity but it doesn't make any sense past that. This is as strange as it gets.

Denied by UM multiple times, nonetheless lifelong M fan.

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:31 PM | Hmmm (Score:2 Normal)
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Three scenarios I see

1 - He and this other dude invented the hoax to help him gain sympathy and therefore Heisman support

 

2 - He came up with a beard story and it spun out of control

 

3 - He truly was catfished, figured it out, and created the death story as cover

 

The problem with the last two is why kill her off?  Why not just say it ended and move on?  Also, in all three scenarios he is in on the lie at least partially.  Therefore I think he was in on it the whole time.  Now he will feign being a victim so as to not have to admit he was a liar.

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:23 PM | I'm starting to question (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm starting to question whether Teo is real. Now that I think of it, I dont remember him playing in the NC game, can anyone provide evidence to support his existence? Maybe post a picture of him and his girlfr...oh...

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:25 PM | notre dame hiding info (Score:5 Normal)
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two things upset me regardless of whether teo is stupid or malicious

1.  Notre benefitted from this story greatly yet did not issue a statement when they found out (before the big game so why get bad publicity)

2.  Even if Manti Teo was duped, that he could be moved to the point of tears for someone so much but not even to console with her family upon death suggests that he should not have made it a big deal to the press.

Q

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:33 PM | Bravo, sir. He went to great (Score:2 Insightful)
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Bravo, sir. He went to great lengths to spin flatly untrue myths in the media. The odds he was duped are about the same as the odds that ND would beat Bama in a rematch. And shame on the Irish.

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:25 PM | Teo's (Score:2)
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Teo's statement:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8851033/story-manti-teo-g...

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:26 PM | so you don't have to click on (Score:3 Normal)
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so you don't have to click on the link:

"This is incredibly embarrassing to talk about, but over an extended period of time, I developed an emotional relationship with a woman I met online. We maintained what I thought to be an authentic relationship by communicating frequently online and on the phone, and I grew to care deeply about her.

"To realize that I was the victim of what was apparently someone's sick joke and constant lies was, and is, painful and humiliating.

"It further pains me that the grief I felt and the sympathies expressed to me at the time of my grandmother's death in September were in any way deepened by what I believed to be another significant loss in my life.

"I am enormously grateful for the support of my family, friends and Notre Dame fans throughout this year. To think that I shared with them my happiness about my relationship and details that I thought to be true about her just makes me sick. I hope that people can understand how trying and confusing this whole experience has been.

"In retrospect, I obviously should have been much more cautious. If anything good comes of this, I hope it is that others will be far more guarded when they engage with people online than I was.

"Fortunately, I have many wonderful things in my life, and I'm looking forward to putting this painful experience behind me as I focus on preparing for the NFL Draft."

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:29 PM | Yeah sure Manti and Grizzly (Score:3 Normal)
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Yeah sure Manti and Grizzly Adams had a beard!

And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know, it's gonna be Michigan again, Michigan

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:43 PM | And was that beard namend (Score:5 Normal)
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And was that beard namend Lennay?

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:48 PM | Heyyyyoooo!!!!! ZING! (Score:3 Normal)
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Heyyyyoooo!!!!! ZING!

And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know, it's gonna be Michigan again, Michigan

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:39 PM | It says that statement was (Score:5 Normal)
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It says that statement was released Tuesday afternoon. Deadspin story is just a few hours old. Why was this statement issued? Who was it issued to? Why was it not covered at all? Why is only ESPN reportiing this statement and, to my knowledge, no other news sites?

Either there's some misreporting going on, or I don't know. Not to mention that the syntax and structure of that doesn't start out like an official statement. Starting a statement with "This is incredibly embarrassing to talk about" tells me that obviously this statement was prepared sometime between the 26th when ND found out and before the Deadspin story was published. Both this statement and ND's official statement had to have been pre-written and ready for release ONLY, and I repeat, ONLY, if the story broke. Otherwise, it would be covered up forever, not that it should surprise anyone.

 

Of course, assuming this statement is legit.

 

EDIT: It seems that CBS has stated the statement was made Wednesday now. Bad error by ESPN, come on guys...

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:25 PM | I bet this whole thing is (Score:3 Normal)
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I bet this whole thing is actually part of an ongoing hoax all done to create buzz for the MTV show. Peal back the layers, man.

Whatcha gonna do, little brother?

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:28 PM | Sucker's (Score:2 Normal)
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Fooled you again!  She wasn't real!  I just needed to gain your sympathy.  I needed to tug at your heartstrings to win the Heisman.  Psych!

 

Don’t look back. Something might be gaining on you.  -Satchel Paige

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:30 PM | It has to be asked. (Score:5 Normal)
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Has anyone ever actually met this "Brian Cook"?  

"You know, for a bartender/bookie, you're pretty judgmental."

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:48 PM | I exchanged a glance and a (Score:5 Normal)
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I exchanged a glance and a handshake with him after the loss at Purdue in 2008

Rudy watches inspirational movies about Shawn Hunwick

 

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:04 PM | You mean to tell me (Score:5 Normal)
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That you're in an online relationship with Brian Cook too??

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:36 PM | Yes, and it has been going on for years. (Score:5 Normal)
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But now that I think about it, it's been exclusively online, and he always has an excuse for why he can't meet up.  Man, do I feel stupid.  

At least my girlfriend Kate will give me some sympathy.  We're long-distance, but she sent me this pic, and is pretty smokin' hot:

 

 

"You know, for a bartender/bookie, you're pretty judgmental."

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:43 PM | First thing I noticed: why (Score:5 Normal)
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First thing I noticed: why doesn't she have eyelashes?

Must be suffering from low-T.

~Herm

Stop the uniform changes! Contact Dave Brandon 734-764-9416.

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January 16th, 2013 at 9:17 PM | Eyelashes? (Score:2)
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That's the first thing Manti noticed in that picture, too. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:07 PM | I've met him. (Score:2)
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But then, I'm imaginary too.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:31 PM | Teo's Statement (Score:2 Normal)
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"This is incredibly embarrassing to talk about, but over an extended period of time, I developed an emotional relationship with a woman I met online. We maintained what I thought to be an authentic relationship by communicating frequently online and on the phone, and I grew to care deeply about her. "To realize that I was the victim of what was apparently someone's sick joke and constant lies was, and is, painful and humiliating. "It further pains me that the grief I felt and the sympathies expressed to me at the time of my grandmother's death in September were in any way deepened by what I believed to be another significant loss in my life. "I am enormously grateful for the support of my family, friends and Notre Dame fans throughout this year. To think that I shared with them my happiness about my relationship and details that I thought to be true about her just makes me sick. I hope that people can understand how trying and confusing this whole experience has been. "In retrospect, I obviously should have been much more cautious. If anything good comes of this, I hope it is that others will be far more guarded when they engage with people online than I was. "Fortunately, I have many wonderful things in my life, and I'm looking forward to putting this painful experience behind me as I focus on preparing for the NFL Draft."

 

Sounds like a classic case of meeting a beatiful woman online, only to find out she was a 40 year old dude.  Anyhow I am not buying his story, since he was fine with rolling with all the goodwill until he got caught.

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:36 PM | You know what's actually (Score:5 Normal)
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You know what's actually embarrassing?  This:

 

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:59 PM |     (Score:2 Normal)
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January 16th, 2013 at 7:31 PM | Speechless (Score:3 Normal)
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This is low.

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:31 PM | He almost pulled this off and (Score:5 Normal)
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He almost pulled this off and won an extremely undeserved Heisman.  Johnny Football saved them from a very embarrassing winner.

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:32 PM | Total bullshit. ND coverup (Score:5 Normal)
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Total bullshit. ND coverup as usual. Who would go through the effort to perpetrate this hoax? Creating a fake persona, speaking to T'eo nightly for months? For what? I've seen Tommy Boy, the real money is when you marry the bastard. Not faking a death.

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:34 PM | Wow (Score:2 Normal)
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This is straight up freaky. Hollywood stuff. It blows my mind. I can't wait for T'eo to tell his side of the story

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:49 PM | ... On Oprah. (Score:3 Normal)
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... On Oprah.

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:35 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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c/o 2008
GO BLUE!

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:36 PM | Notre Dame has a long history (Score:5 Normal)
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Notre Dame has a long history of inventing stories out of thin air.  No program is perfect...but ND portrays itself as perfect.

The Gipper speach didn't happen, the Gipper went a whole year without attending classes as he was a pool shark and was much older than the players he played against and etc...

 

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/01/inspiring-tale-of-notre-dame-hero-totally-fake.html

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:37 PM | So T'eo is admitting he never (Score:3 Normal)
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So T'eo is admitting he never even MET this woman??? He says it was an online romance?

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:43 PM | In his official statement, he (Score:2)
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In his official statement, he said it was an "online" relationship.  I guess that means he never met her and his parents never met her as well.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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January 16th, 2013 at 9:21 PM | Well, that's not true. There (Score:1)
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Well, that's not true. There are multiple articles stating that Teo met his GF after a Stanford game in 2009 and that theyve been together in Hawaii.

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:48 PM | Everybody knows that even in an online romance (Score:3 Normal)
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you still talk to them on the phone once in a while, for conjugal phone visits and whatnot in a pinch.  That way, even if you're talking to a 20 year old who turns out to be a 56 year old, at least you're still in the right ballpark with gender.  It's called "voice verify," kids.

I mean, um, a friend told me this.  I assume it to be true since I don't even use the interweb.

"You know, for a bartender/bookie, you're pretty judgmental."

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:49 PM | Let's, for one second, believe Te'o (Score:3 Normal)
nickbob
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...who in the living hell perpetrates something like this?  Does the obvious answer of "nobody" nulify his claim that he was a victim?  That's a Sawyer-esque long con, but for what gain?  Simply to embarass him?  No financial reason or other reason?  Fascinating, this whole thing is just beyond fascinating.

EDIT: mildly disregard, I did not read the entire thing carefully enough, thus not processing Tuiasosopo's involvement.

 

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:45 PM | Okay here's why I believe (Score:2 Normal)
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Okay here's why I believe Te'o: this story got no attention prior to "her" "death."  If this was actually a publicity stunt he was carying on a fake long-distance relationship with someone for years and talking about it so that he could cash in on her fake death years later?  That makes no sense.

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:15 PM | But they didn't "become a (Score:3 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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But they didn't "become a couple" until 2012, a few months before the season started.   The part about them meeting after the 2009 Stanford game could have just been made up after the fact.

 

 

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:24 PM | It didn't matter if he had al (Score:3 Normal)
UM2k1
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It didn't matter if he had al girlfriend before the news of her"death" broke. That is when the con started, not Stanford 2009.

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:38 PM | Now that you mention this (Score:5 Normal)
909Dewey
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This makes the beard story the likely culprit:

He makes up a girlfriend to get his parents off his back in 2009

He has her die at the same time as his grandmother to ensure that his parents don't go to her funeral

His parents never get the chance to meet her at senior day in November because she died

Remember his family "talked to her on the phone" so either they are all liars or Teo had to cover up something he couldn't let out

Sorry no periods

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January 16th, 2013 at 10:30 PM | "Sorry no periods" (Score:5 Normal)
Ccapilla
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Kinda like a fake girlfriend...

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January 16th, 2013 at 8:57 PM | Huh? Why would a relationship (Score:2 Normal)
OmarDontScare
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Huh? Why would a relationship with his "girlfriend" get media attention before her death? Lots of guys have girlfriends - not super newsworthy.

Maybe there was no long-term relationship at all?

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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January 16th, 2013 at 9:29 PM | Wasn't she known of before?  (Score:1)
cheesheadwolverine
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Wasn't she known of before?  I mean in a really minor way, because it's not newsworth, but I can't imagine her "death" wasn't the first time she was ever mentioned, at least in passing, once.

"I just hope Tressel doesn't fire me"

-Gordon Gee

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:46 PM | There are quotes from the (Score:2 Normal)
ghost
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There are quotes from the South Bend tribune about them meeting. Direct quotes from the father.  

 

ESPN apparently new about it 10 days ago.

 

Bruce Arthur (canadian sports writer) who is always great to follow on twitter has been amusing to say the least in his coverage of teo.

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:46 PM | Wow (Score:5 Normal)
Crime Reporter
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I can't believe someone would craft a story like this to earn sympathy points (if that is indeed the case). Either way, this whole thing is messed up, and the fact that ND sat on it and used it leading up the championship game is seriously fucked up.

Christ in me arise and dispel all the darkness.

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:48 PM | Can't believe somebody would (Score:5 Normal)
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Can't believe somebody would make up a fake person.

Who does that?

War Eagle!!!

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January 16th, 2013 at 9:58 PM | RDT? (Score:3 Normal)
LSA Aught One
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WIAB? WDE? My head hurts.

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:48 PM | Breaking News: Brian Kelly to (Score:5 Normal)
MightyMatt13
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Breaking News: Brian Kelly to Oregon

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:49 PM | I don't know, something stinks. (Score:3 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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I can buy overblowing an online affair, or getting convinced someone is someone they say they are, and aren't. But man, they're replaying the ESPN interview, and there's too much BS in the story. Went to sleep on the phone together....do people go to that effort for a joke? And of course ESPN didn't follow up on any pictures, no death notice, accident report, or contacting the family.

I don't think Te'o's a victim, but he probably should be pitied. He obviously has some serious issues, and other than 10 minutes of fame, I'm not sure what he got out of it. Second place in Heisman voting? Not going to be worth it when his 10 minutes turns into 10 weeks of infamy.

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:50 PM | Options here: 1.  He fell for (Score:5 Normal)
samsoccer7
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Options here:

1.  He fell for a girl he "met" online.  He started having feelings for her and at least saw "attractive" pictures so he thought it was real.  He felt somewhat silly about it so he made up the parts about meeting the girl, visiting in Hawaii, etc.  He was essentially duped but he contributed somewhat.

2.  He was in on this from the beginning, him and some friends having fun maybe.  Seems kinda odd to kill off a fake person though right?  Unless it was for fame and empathy.

3.  He was in a gay relationship with that Tuoisoopsid0pu (sp?) kid.  They made up this girl so they could profess "love" to each other and not "out" him nationally.  Then things got a bit crazy b/c people were starting to look into this, so they killed her off, and he benefited from it on a national stage.

Those are the 3 main ways this can go, in my opinion.  What do you guys think?

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