I'm pretty sure we all saw it coming, but it's a good reminder of how much worse things could be. No Big 12 road wins since 2007...at Baylor. Four straight losing seasons, and lastly, blowing a 28 point lead this past week at Kansas. I'm just thankful we don't have him.
OT - Dan Hawkins Canned
at halftime. I can't believe that. I really can't.
Makes complete sense if your guys are playing frantic and tight football and making mistakes.
They weren't though. They were throttling Kansas at halftime. It was the last 11 minutes that did them in.
The best part is that a Toney Clemons (remember me?) fumble was returned for a TD to cut the lead to seven. Karma's a bitch.
if it hurt the Colorado wallets that much to can him, where are they going to find the cash for his replacement?
Colorado has some serious debt, they're buying their freedom from the B12 and now the Hawkins buyout. Either some donors have come up big or they're borrowing against future PAC10 revenue I guess.
and the payout they have to make to the BIG12.
hope that PAC12 tv network has been talking to Rotel for CU's sake.
More importantly, will the new coach have a son who plays QB? I heard that's a requirement for consideration.
If Millen was still ruining things in Detroit Hawkins would probably be one of the top candidates to be lions hc.
At what point do we start a Dantonio watch-list? By that I mean when does he start getting job offers at places like Colorado (or Tennessee?) and would MSU be willing to match those offers?
i can't imagine him going to a PAC12 school, seems like a step down, at best lateral move.
a top SEC team? i can see that, but it would have to be one of the elites like UT of UGA. unfortunately for UM, i see him at MSU for a while, at least until Tressel is gone and then....
Maybe a UCLA, USC or Washington job. Or Colorado in the 1990s. Not Colorado now.
Don Treadwell may be a candidate for a job like Colorado. They will need to start over and bet on their new status in the PAC 12 to help guide them to a new pipeline of California recruits.
Wherever he ends up, they have to have a first rate parole system in place.
His move will be SEC just like Satan's. I have a feeling that UGA will be looking for a new coach at the end of the year and Dantonio's philosophy of 2nd, 3rd, & 4th chances fits in fine with the SEC.
Would a cash strapped, average institution like Colorado really be an upgrade over a place like State?
I dislike State as much as the next person on here, but Dantonio seems to have a pretty good track record around these parts and I don't see him leaving until Mr. Tressel leaves osu... I think he's going to hold out for that job. Unless a Tennessee does come along.
But not Colorado. lol.
I agree 100%. The Izzo situation this past summer showed that the MSU AD knows how to manage these situations, and the fanbase has done well to circle the wagons when the rumors start to fly. From the coaches' perspectives, it probably helps that Izzo and Dantonio are treated as gods due to their recent success versus UM. I can't imagine that MSU is going to be a stepping stone for the Sabans of the world any longer, at least not in the near future. Even though I tend to think that this year's MSU football record is a bit of an outlier, it seems that their athletic department as a whole has risen due to the success of the basketball team, and it's hard to a coach wanting to jump ship when the ceiling hasn't been reached yet.
At what point do we start a Dantonio watch-list?
Never. He's not a top-notch coach, despite what some of our frightened fans think. He's in his mid 50s and is almost certainly at his final school.
I believe his name is Rich
Ha - Dick/Rod... the two words are related and you used them in a sentence to describe the coach, whose name also happens to be similar to the words dick and rod. You are so clever.
Really classy. I suppose every fanbase has to put up with ass clowns like you.
How does one have so much success at Boise then so little at a bigger program? This seemed like a perfect fit - weak division, dominant school in the state, a pretty good tradition. This makes me wonder if guys like Petersen or Patterson would do any better with bigger jobs if given the opportunity.
Some of the small school coaches will have found themselves in a good situation which they can't replicate, due to lucky recruiting or a good staff. Others are the real deal.
It's just not always easy to tell in advance.
The other view is how much of Hawkins success at Boise State was due to having Petersen around as the OC? Also, given the fact that not only Hawkins but also his predecessor at BSU (Dirk Koetter) failed miserably when they moved to relatively decent programs, it might give a school a reason to pause before looking at Chris Petersen as an automatic upgrade to their program.
That being said, hiring a coach from a successful non-BCS school in the mountains seems to have worked out pretty well for Florida.
Boise was an established program with a full roster when Hawkins left and they play in the WAC. Colorado was a total mess and they play in the B12. It is surprising Hawkins was not able to make more progress than he did, but it is a much tougher project to rebuild CO than just roll with Boise with your toughest games being one Pac 10 team and Nevada or Hawaii every year.
The Hawk was never really a football "coach" and was always more of a football administrator. Under Koetter, he was the rah, rah guy and handled all the stuff like event/fundraiser/charity organization. He had the role of "assistant head coach" but he never had an X's and O's background at the D-1 level. He inherited a strong program and went 8-4 in year one, then hired Petersen (who I think has proven to be an extremely strong X's and O's coach) and the program took a big step up (three straight one loss seasons and four straight conference titles).
I think CU fans started to second guess the success when they saw how BSU continued to win and even improved after he left (Petersen has only lost 4 games in nearly five full seasons in Boise). Most seemed to be willing to give Hawkins a chance to rebuild, but when year four rolled around and they weren't any better than when he'd arrived (they went 3-9), most had completely lost faith in the guy. He got yet another shot because of the financial situation at the school and needless to say it hasn't gone well this year.
This is telling, as they say:
"Hawkins took heat for having his quarterback son, Cody, throwing the ball in the fourth quarter when running out the clock with a big lead was in order."
Nepotism is never a good thing, which is why I hope Penn State makes JayPa the next head coach.
I think Greg Schiano just spit up his morning coffee reading that entry.
Speaking with the Alums and fans much more familiar with the program than I, PSU's next coach is universally expected to be Al Golden from Temple. He's a former PSU Player, been coaching since 1994, still friendly with the PSU, and has turned around a miserable Temple using the PSU blueprint.
He's young and fits the mold for a university that likes to keep coaches around a very long time.
runs the spread offense... just for toney clemons :)
Did Colorado's AD tell Hawkins to go coach intramurals, brother?
Its Big 12 Football baby, if you dont like it go play intramurals
Not so much in basketball either (see Depaul)
Ray Meyer: 724 -324
Joey Meyer 231 - 158
EDIT: disregard was beaten to the joke.
I couldn't believe it hadn't been mentioned yet, either (and only beat you by a few minutes).
Current players hope this means the triumphant return of Bill McCartney('s daughter).
HA! I saw what you did there.
Will always be remembered more for this rant than anything he did on the football field in Colorado.
The three candidates I have heard mentioned so far are Bill McCartney (he is said to be lobbying hard to come back, but he is 70), Eric Bieniemy and Mike Leach.
I hear Tim Brewster is looking for a job.
He never should have told that one kid to play intramurals. That kid could have been the answer.