"I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER ‘KING’ WINS ONE"
I wouldn't take much confidence in this guarantee, since he couldn't find a way to win a championship while he had Lebron on his team.
I like Dan Gilbert, but I'm sure he was fine with the marketing of "King James" when he was there. Also, that would be the most painfully hilarious thing to ever happen in sports if it were to happen. Tiki Barber times a billion.
That would be the finest example of the Ewing Theory yet.
You know, Patrick Ewing really doesn't deserve to have his name attached to that notion. The Knicks haven't exactly torn it up since he left.
Ain't that the truth. Thought coming from Dan Gilbert, no stranger to narcissism, it is a bit strained. We can say this for sure...the NBA has officially gone around the bend.
nobody wants to be in this shitty town. I love his enthusiasm though. But you cant really blame Gilbert for not winning. He put the pieces in place. Two years in a row the best record in the league and totally tanking in the playoffs. That falls on the coaching and players.
They should have been able to at least get to the finals and be competitive.
I think it's entirely justified to blame Gilbert. He bought the Cavs when their value was very high - they were already considered an emerging force that just needed a few roster tweaks. Gilbert failed to deliver those necessary tweaks. I don't agree that he "put the pieces in place." Take a look at the players LeBron has had around him the past few years. Do you really think they were a championship-caliber supporting cast? And hiring a bum like Mike Brown and keeping him employed for years falls right on Gilbert's lap.
Gilbert's comments are incredibly self-serving. He is accusing LeBron of doing everything Gilbert tried to get Tom Izzo to do (abandon his home community and team, etc.). He inherited a great hand from the previous owner and has blown his window of opportunity. And now, with these comments, he sounds like a lunatic. NBA free agents are not going to want to play for him. He'll be shunned like the Bulls were after 1998, when Jerry Krause forced everyone out the door. I bet in the long run, Gilbert's ownership will be viewed as a disaster.
where did you find this?
Columbus is too far south???? Not fair, God.
Yeah.. quite honestly this comes off as obviously very arrogant, and really, really spoiled to me.
LeBron James doesn't *owe* anyone anything.
Dan Gilbert needs to shut up. He failed to reel in the biggest Cleveland star since Jim Brown. It's over. You can't win anymore. The cavs are DOA. I admire his courage in the face of the firing squad, but he's still facing the firing squad...
Rarely do you see such a show of emotion in a buttoned tight corporate world such as the NBA. Wow. I'm a little impressed...And yet so happy it is happening to Ohio.
Stay classy Dan Gilbert. I hope that anyone that reads this immediately rolls their eyes and makes a motion with their hand that simulates jacking off. That entire statement is comical and also typical of Cleveland.
Ha...as they say on EDSBS: "MDWM" (Makes Dismissive Wanking Motion).
Logical people would wish Lebron well and thank him for making Cleveland a legitimate team, but it was obvious this type of reaction coming. I mean, these are fans we're talking about. Not exactly rational beings.
The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.
Dan, about that whole doubt negative thing we were trying to teach you...
if smack-talk is involved, I fully applaude. Is it childish? Poor sportsmanship? Absolutely on both counts. Is it delcious? Very.
Who is more pissed off?
Cavs fans now or Packers fans a year ago? Or two?
I'm a Packer fan, it has to be the Cav's. At least Brett was 75 years old and probably didn't have very many years left, while Aaron Rodgers was looking very promising. Lebron is only 25, Cleveland was expecting another decade of greatness from him.
I don't believe this is from Dan Gilbert. I think someone hacked this website. He flat out insults Lebron James. I don't think anyone person who runs an organization would do that. This letter is a fake.
espn confirmed it with the cavs, and it is official. It's good that someone is not playing along and calling bullshit like they see it, because this whole ESPN announcement thing was bullshit.
That's something else right there, and from an owner WOW. The rough copy must have been a beauty.
ESPN verified it. It's Gilbert.
And, I think it's fantastic. No love for Ohio or Cleveland here, but this whole thing was an atrocious display on LBJ's part. He didn't even call and talk to Gilbert or explain the decision before he made it on television. That seems like a pretty common courtesy, but I digress. I think people in Cleveland aren't just mad about this, they're pretty hurt too. For an owner...a "buttoned-up corporate type" as someone described above...to recognize that and not issue some vanilla "we're disappointed" statement, but instead try and identify with and rally his fans, is refreshing. Good for him.
As you said ESPN has confirmed it.
Allow me to retort to your comments, in a friendly difference of opinion (although I know I'm going to get Neg Bombed b/c I always do when I differ from the majority but so be it).
Lebron James is a former employee of Dan Gilbert. No matter how much money, or fame or publicity is put on the situation, LBJ was at once a contracted employee to Dan Gilbert's company.
And so it is completely out of bounds for a former employer to publicaly insult a former employee in this manner. Not to mention classless, but that is beside the point. Gilbert has no right to use such extreme language when talking about an employee who is half his age, and is working in a profession that is solely for the purpose of entertainment. Nobody died here, the people of Cleveland didn't lose half their city like New Orleans did. There needs to be perspective.
The only thing that happened tonight that hurt anyone is that Dan Gilbert's franchise lost half of its value. He is the only one that was hurt.
Frankly (and here is where I really get the Neg bomb) Dan Gilbert owes Lebron James an apology for that open letter.
Just a fellow Wolverine's opinion.
(I'm still glad it happened to Ohio)
I understand, we just disagree. I think almost the entire Cavaliers fanbase would disagree that Dan Gilbert was the only one that was hurt. I don't read that letter as "crybaby." I read it as push back against the spectacle that LBJ just put the franchise and fanbase through. As a fan, when your team loses a star, let alone a super star, it's going to hurt. When it lose him on national television following a two year process that can best be described as a pathetic stunt, it's going to hurt a lot more. And, when you're Cleveland and haven't won a championship in anything in a generation (plus), it's hurts even more. I think Dan Gilbert knows his fans pretty well and had that in mind when he wrote it.
I understand the notion that "he's just a former employee" but that's a pretty watered down, simplistic description in this case. LBJ wasn't just some employee to this franchise and I think there's no chance he was treated like just some employee by that organization. I'd bet he was treated like royalty (no pun intended) and that they bent over backwards to keep him happy. No, they didn't get over the hump, but they weren't indifferent to that fact - we're not talking about Donald Sterling and the Clippers here. As far as I know, Gilbert never got any outreach from LBJ to tell him he was leaving or why before tonight's ridiculous show. I've never heard of bad blood between LBJ and Gilbert, so I can't imagine any excuse for not giving Gilbert that courtesy...well...other than the fact that you don't want the surprise decision to leak before your one hour primetime special. I think, at the very least, LBJ owed them that courtesy. He chose to build his brand instead, and Gilbert gave back to LBJ just what he deserved. He humiliated (maybe that's too strong a word) Cleveland throughout the process and especially tonight.
(And, I too am still glad it happened in Ohio)
Completely understand your point of view. Your employee/employer references intimates that you're looking at this through a sports-as-a-business lens, which isn't incorrect. But I think the reason that I like Gilbert's letter so much is that I like sports-as-sports and love the emotion that comes with it, raw and unfiltered. His response tries to plant a flag in the ground and reclaim some territory for those of us that aren't thrilled with the incessant business-like nature of sports franchises.
That may be a bit ironic considering Gilbert's prowess as a businessman, but on the other hand, you could argue that it's especially pointed coming from him. He would never do something like this with an employee at Rock Financial or whatever, and that's the point, I guess. Sports is different and special.
Its sports, the rules aren't the same as reality.
...the more I think it's genius. He's not writing to LeBron. He's not writing to America, who thinks he's a douche now. He's writing to his fan base. His season ticket holders. The guys he has to convince to still fill the arena. And they all feel exactly the same way.
... he doesn't have to worry about next year. Gilbert made all season ticket holders renew for the 2010-11 season.
Can you say "Stub-Hub?"
But he wants that $10 a car parking, and $8 formerly-known-as-LeBron dogs to sell. And languishing tickets on stub hub don't eat.
or it wouldnt still be up over 30 minutes after this thread was posted. It does sound rediculous coming from an owner of a team and maybe if he had put that passion into building a team around lebron he wouldnt be in this position.
"This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown "chosen one" sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And "who" we would want them to grow-up to become."
"I just went where I thought I'd be happy" -LBJ
Oh my goodness me, this isn't just a quote; he wrote the darned thing in Comic Sans
Nothing, I mean nothing, drives home a point like comic sans. Anytime I need to write up a contract at work, I start and end with comic sans.
According to a friend who used to work at Quicken Loans, this is Dan Gilbert's favorite font. He uses it to write all of his official memos and training documents.
Dan Gilbert, Michigan State University alumnus, said this? That's unpossible. Any former member of that fine institution would have to be classier than that.
damn it i I was just about to say the same thing,
there is a quote somewhere in the statement encouraging Cleveland residents to set the river on fire, right?
Absolutely. The river, any and all couches, and the deformed children that they had with their first cousins. (That last one might be West Virginia - I was reading about Senator Byrd earlier and might be mixing up my facts).
...is his speechwriter.
Maybe he'll put up a billboard!
"Me fail english? That's unpossible."
Thank you for using part of my favorite Ralph Wiggum quote in your assessment of Gilbert.
With all the confusion going on in Ohio right now. Here's our chance to take Toledo back.
dude, Toledo was so 1835....
EDIT: we got 3/4 of the upper peninsula in exchange for toledo and we were pissed.
but maybe we can rescue the many Michigan fans who are trapped there.
Yeah, I was born and raised in Toledo. Might not be the best place to live nowadays but the amount of Wolverine fans living there makes up for its statehood.
I wonder how Gilbert explains the wooing of Izzo to his friends at MSU.
... this is a great point. If you read the story on ESPN where Gilbert further rips LeBron, he must have known for some time that LeBron wasn't staying. I wonder what Gilbert told Izzo about this while he was wooing him?
Izzo is lucky he stayed. Cleveland is one jacked-up sports city, it makes Detroit seem sterling by comparison. And East Lansing and basketball is like nirvana. When you hear some of the callers from Cleveland slam LeBron, it sounds pathetic. Just like the video.
No decent NBA free agent will go to Cleveland, particularly after reading Gilbert's letter. The Cavs are sunk for years.
"narcissistic, self-promotional build-up" is a great description of the LeCircus of the past few days. I don't know how wise it was to publish the letter as a whole, but that particular phrase is spot-on.
Comic Sans! Unnecessary quotation marks! Terrible grammar!
Richer than I'll ever be. Oh.
See my comment above...Dan Gilbert writes all of his memos in this retarded font.
I dislike all that's been going on with Lebron as much as the next guy, but that's just straight up unprofessional. I don't care how butthurt you are, if you're the owner of an NBA team, you can't release an open letter of petty insults and trash talk about your former star player because he decided to try playing for another team. If I interprested that letter correctly, there's more crap to come from him, too.
Won't be surprised if Lebron decides to go after him if he keeps up the talk. Pretty sure that he crossed the line there, and if he keeps dancing around on the other side of it, he deserves whatever he gets.
It was, however, good for a laugh. Its stuff like this that reminds me why we have Ohio. We've got to get our entertainment from somewhere.
When he drops 50 on the Cavs, in Cleveland. Twice. I mean, I understand the emotion...but that just did the man's team no good. (Or the fans who are going to gave to watch it).
Just the idea of a Gilbert-James media battle is fantastic. Can you imagine?
James: "The best player he surrounded me with was Mo Williams. The only good coach I've played for has been Mike krzyzewski. They wouldn't give up JJ Hickson for Amar'e. The reason I left is obvious: Cavs management"
Gilbert: "He's a traitor. He doesn't value loyalty. Delonte slept with his mom."
Awesome. One can only hope
I just don't understand why everyone wants almost every aspect of their sports to be "professional". The letter was unprofessional. It was also emotional and passionate, the response of a fan. I don't tune in to sports for business news. I don't really care how one corporation is faring with respect to another. I care about my team and I like knowing the folks that represent and run my team also care about it, rather than having them view it as an "asset".
There is a good way to show anger and then there is the MSU way. What a ridiculously written letter. MSU needs to introduce anger management classes to its curriculum.
this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!
If theres one guy I want to build a championship team around, it's Delonte West.
What with all the unnecessary quotes, did anybody else hear this in their heads whilst reading that misbegotten screed?
yes thank you this is exactly what i was thinking of when i read his message.
A thousand times yes.
I was about half way through the letter when I was like... lots of quotes here...
The Sparty owner of an Ohio team (who enjoys putting up the Michigan logo on the scoreboard to get fans to boo) just saw the value of his franchise drop by a few hundred million. Schadenfreude at its finest.
but that letter sucked. I don't think Gilbert believes all that; I think he's just pandering to his base. There's a lot of unsubstantiated bravado there, ya know? Which is decidedly unrad. And so, I hope Lebron wins infinity championships now and rips a massive fart on all of Cleveland
but I think this post is so well written. "Decidedly unrad," well said.
Called out Lebron for exactly what he is, good job....might be a little insane on the championship guarantee, but i will let that one slide because I do not think he believes that at all...
Even if you agree with the sentiment, do you really think it was wise to state it publicly? Odds are that most NBA players are going to take LeBron's side in this quarrel. If I'm an NBA player, this kind of statement wouldn't exactly make me eager to work for Gilbert.
obvious they weren't gonna go work for him anyways, right? so what the hell does he have to lose besides 60 or so games a year?
What does he have to lose? Any chance of ever fielding a contending team. You wish LeBron well, and people applaud you for your class. You trash the guy on his way out, and you've burned bridges with every half-decent player in the league. The better question is, what did he have to gain? Okay, Cleveland fans have temporarily rallied to his side, but that won't last if the team starts losing, which it will.
Prediction: Cleveland fans will rue the day this guy bought the franchise.
reading before the part where i said "60 or so games a year" about what he has to lose.
Gilbert has been jilted by the coach he worships over all coaches and the best player who was ever going to play in Cleveland in about a month's time. If I wasn't laughing so hard at his painfully ineffective attempts at insults and the fact that a majority of the "worst state ever" is in a state of schadenfreude, I would find the whole thing sad.
"Cleveland Cavaliers Supporters Wherever You May Be Tonight"
Many native Clevelanders have left the city for the exact same reason that LeBron did, which was to improve their lives. That's a fact from a decaying city.
Moreover, Gilbert, after striking out with James, Bosch (who refuses to play in Cleveland), Wade, whomever else they targeted, and Izzo comes across as a worthless owner who was lucky enough to win the NBA lottery and get LeBron.
He couldn't win with LeBron for 6 years and now blames him? Maybe Gilbert is just a terrible owner (e.g. Dan Snyder) that doesn't belong making any NBA decisions.
I applaud LeBron for choosing winning over money and ego. That's impressive.
Everybody is citing last night (and the entire offseason so far) as evidence that Bron is an egomaniacal ass. I tend to see the partially self-generated coverage of his decision as more of a ham-fisted marketing attempt than any great revelation about his character. The fact that he kept to his long-stated top criterion of going where he could best win championships, despite the fact that he'll now be sharing the spotlight to a significantly greater extent than he would anywhere else except LA, I think indicates that his ego is not as consumptive as most think.
Gilbert is a douche, and I'm happy for his loss.