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OT - CYO Philly ends 11 year old girl's football career
Since it's the Catholic Youth Organization, I'm guessing that's a no.
Thanks for pointing that out. I'm guessing I would have realized that, if I had clicked on the link.
Given the Catholic Church's long standing policies on equality, I'm sure this is only a temporary mistake. Surely, they'll see the error in their ways and correct this. They're usually very proactive with such things.
First women want to vote, then they want to wear pants, then they want to play at Augusta, and now football?! What's next, no urinals in bathrooms because the ladies can't use them?!
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I'm of the opinion that girls should be allowed to play contact sports with boys/men if they so desire, but with football, I only have one serious concer, and I'm not sure if it is really a concern or not so any insight on this would be intriguing. My concern with women and contact sports is with their boobs. I have little knowledge in this so bare with me, but i feel that their boobs, in football, for one would make it harder to put on shoulder pads. But most importatnly, there is no way to protect their boobs and they are obviously very important for women's health and easy to hurt, similarly comparable with men's balls... I feel like this is the most important subject to figure out, with size difference being a close second. What do you guys think?
I think they make molded female shoulder pads that conform to and fit around breasks. Also, women may have to do something like breast wrapping to reduce their breasts' profile. That said, if they're too big and get in the way, tough luck. If a man's hands are too small or spine too curved or whathaveyou, he won't be able to play, and they're not going to make special rules for him. Girls should be allowed to compete just as boys, but if they're physically unable, then they're physically unable.
"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
We're taking about fifth grade here, not the (former) Lingerie Football League. Pretty sure many linemen have larger 'boobs' than an 11-year-old. I feel gross just explaining that to you.
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Some girls develop extremely early, and my point is that eventually, believe it or bot, this girl will be in 6th grade, then 7th, etc... I. Which i'm pretty sure she will grow boobs. In which football will still be around, so yes, my case would be relevant. And i'm sure that there wre many girls out there in this world who are in 5th grade where they are starting to grow boobs.. Read a book.
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Maybe you did not interpret my tone correctly, but basically I'm unsettled by your fixation on preteen breasts. And no, they are not a safety issue with proper equipment.
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all youth level "boys" is actually "co-ed" with a girls only league as well. I never had a problem playing teams that were actually co-ed until high school-ish when some referees were unable to avoid calling a very different game for the occasional player with a female name on the scoresheet and a ponytail; even then it was more about the referees than anything the girls did to the game.
I say let her play if she can earn the playing time.
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For all those saying let her play would u be saying yhe same thing is a boy wanted to play on female field hockey team? See if were going to have equality then it should go both ways.
Generally, there are boys hockey teams available, field hockey being the girls alternative to ice hockey. However, if there is no hockey program but field hockey, then it shoudl definitely be co-ed, until such time as said boy becomes a danger to those on the field more so than they are a danger to him.
"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
Also, all USA Hockey sanctioned "boys" teams are actually co-ed, so at the fifth grade level it's exactly the same sport (no checking either way). If there's ice hockey available, it's there for both genders without greatly enhanced physical danger for girls.
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in fifth grade, for a (seemingly, do they get all their funding from the Cathoilic church?) private organization, why not? I don't think there's a whole lot of difference between your average fifth graders to pose any kind of serious risk.
IMO, at higher levels you should be able to move up a level of competitiveness but not down, which would pretty much always mean womens -> mens. A loose analogy would be boxing, where a light heavyweight can fight as a heavyweight, but you're not going to see one of the Klitschko brothers fighting for a welterweight title.
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that was in the news last year, and the boy was allowed to play
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No kidding that boys are genetically stronger and faster. So if they are allowed to play sports that are designated for girls, the sport would no longer be for girls.
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If boys have enough interest in a "girl's" sport, then create separate boys and girls divisions for that sport. Like in basketball. Problem solved. If there's only enough interest for one gender (football, field hockey, etc.), let girls play with the boys but don't complain if the boys want to play with the girls. That's gender equity. Problem solved.
What is 100% wrong is letting girls play with the boys but not the other way around. I have a big problem with letting a girl play a boys' sport when she can just as easily play in the same sport with girls, because then you're sacrificing a boy's opportunity.
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i agree but they dont. there was a story done a few years ago on outside the lines about a boy wanting to play field hockey and volleyball but he was told he couldnt play. they said he could go play mens volleyball but their was no mens volleyball team. they told he would have a physical advantage playing again girls in field hockey.
If boys have enough interest in a "girl's" sport, then create separate boys and girls divisions for that sport. Like in basketball. Problem solved. If there's only enough interest for one gender (football, field hockey, etc.), let girls play with the boys but don't complain if the boys want to play with the girls. That's gender equity. Problem solved.
Ding! This is perfect. I would only like to make one addition:
And the best players will play, in any and all circumstances.
"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
I agree - it should be equal across the board.
Just like with Women in the military...they finally are able to be in combat situations, but they are already trying to put "conditions" on when/where/how they can be deployed.
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Either equality in ALL cases, or quit complaining.
My wife played little league in NJ after her father complained in 1973. Let 'em play.
The Philly CYO didn't end her career. They didn't say she can't play football anywhere, ever again. They said that she cannot play in the CYO. That doesn't mean she can't join another league (which she should do if she loves playing football).
Should boys be allowed to play girls sports?
I thought that the reason we had boys and girls sports was to separate them.
I really don't understand why girls are allowed to play mens sports if the reverse isn't allowed.
It does not make sense. And it's weird.
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A boy should not be able to play girls soccer. A girl should not be able to play boys soccer. Because there are boys and girls soccer.
there is no girls football.
See the difference?
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Are there any sports that are considered "girls only" that you could as an example. I agree, boys should stick to boys soccer and girls should stick to girls soccer. Most high schools do not have boys and girls volleyball teams. Should a boy be able to play on the girls volleyball team?
Field hockey. Volleyball, in some states, this one included. Why shouldn't a boy be able to play volleyball?
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The question isn't whether boys should play volleyball, the question is whether a boy should be allowed to join an all girls volleyball team where the competition is other all girl volleyball teams.
I say she should be allowed to play football. And if the CYO won't let her play, join another league.
There are a few caveats I would make, however.
- I really think there should be total equality in practice requirements. That is to say, she should do the same number of reps of pushups and pullups and laps and everything else for her position group.
- There should be no favoritism in terms of hits . . . she has to be willing to hit and be hit.
- The best players should play. If she is better, she should play. If she sucks, she should be on the bench.
There have been several girls playing on my son's football team. One was a linebacker, and did a great job. The other was a receiver and DB, and was one of the better players on the squad. She was a starter this last season.
I'm unclear on the whole boobs thing. Let me rephrase that: I don't know details on boobs and football. For instance, I don't know exactly when boobs really start to develop: 11 years? 12 years? 13 years? I also don't know how vulnerable boobs are to injury. And I don't know whether large boobs are an impediment to playing well, or just appendages that are covered by pads and all.
I have only had one bad experience with girl's playing with boys. The problem was with a Little League baseball team two years ago. There were two girls on my son's team who were just terrible. They couldn't hit, couldn't field, couldn't run. They really had no business being on the team. But if you were on the team, you were guaranteed to play a couple innings. Guaranteed playing time makes sense if you don't care who wins, and it just is about playing a game. But if you are playing to win, you should be able to do whatever you can within the rules to win the game. If someone is slow and can't tackle well and can't catch well, they can be on the team, but they shouldn't see the field.
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I have two girls and if they wanted to play sports with the boys and there's no alternative for girls, then I'd let them have at it. If they're not physically mature for football, then I wouldn't let them play. But I would say the thing if I had boys. I would never tell my girls that they couldn't do something or play something because they're the wrong gender.
For making this thread less of an unenlightened cesspool, and it sounds like you are a great parent to your kids. My parents raised 3 girls with that mentality, and it's served us well: I'm a Michigan engineering grad (and former youth league lineman) working in the aerospace industry, middle sister (former varsity wrestler) is about to graduate with a degree in marine biology, and the youngest is a multi-sport varsity athlete aiming for UCLA's athletic training program. The only downside is dealing with the outside world and its fair share of people stuck in the pre-women's suffrage era.
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