OT: Curtis Granderson one of 4 MLB players who may be suspended for PED use

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OT: Curtis Granderson one of 4 MLB players who may be suspended for PED use

Former Tiger's center fielder Curtis Granderson has been named by a source to be one of four players (three from the Yankees) to be facing a 50 game suspension for PED use.  Is PED use as rampant in other sports as it is in baseball, or do other leagues sweep it under the rug.  (This is not official but the guy coming out with this was right about Melky Cabrera being suspended last year before it was announced)

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March 4th, 2013 at 11:09 PM | I hope not (Score:5 Normal)
Blazefire
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I always liked Curtis. I worried what would become of him when we traded him. He was so big into his "Grand's Kids" program.

That said, he used to be a great contact hitter with a little power, then he seemed to really add to his power too, suddenly.

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
March 4th, 2013 at 11:13 PM | I don't know if I'd call him (Score:5 Normal)
MGoBender
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I don't know if I'd call him a great contact hitter. He always racked up the K's. Regardless, this is about as heartbreaking as it can get for guys you'd never expect to have used PEDs.

CoE Class of 2007

March 4th, 2013 at 11:16 PM | Okay, true (Score:2)
Blazefire
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I guess what I meant to say is that his BA was pretty good and he'd rack up  the doubles on his speed, but he didn't put them over the fence that much.

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
March 4th, 2013 at 11:34 PM | Curtis always lived on an a (Score:5 Normal)
WMUgoblue
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Curtis always lived on an a fairly high BABIP while his K % fluctuated during the end of his Tigers career, this all came to a head in 2009 when he hit .249 and really became an all or nothing hitter with 30 HR's and 70+ RBI's.

The package the Tigers got for him and Edwin is nothing less than thievery on Dombrowski's part.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4747&position=OF

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March 4th, 2013 at 11:43 PM | As long as Ken Griffey Jr's (Score:5 Normal)
goblue20111
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As long as Ken Griffey Jr's clean, I'm a happy man.

March 5th, 2013 at 12:07 AM | So you are sad? Either that (Score:-1 Flamebait)
March 5th, 2013 at 12:15 AM | Right.  Because he's been (Score:1 Normal)
Swazi
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Right.  Because he's been named in all of these reports and failed all these tests.  Oh wait.  No he hasn't.

If you need drugs to be a good writer, you're not a good writer.

-Rod Serling

March 5th, 2013 at 7:18 AM | Do not assume by any means (Score:3 Normal)
jmblue
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Do not assume by any means that PED testing is foolproof and catches all the cheaters.  The North American sports leagues do not even use very up-to-date testing methods.  

Griffey, rightly or wrongly, is going to be under suspicion because he played during at the most blatant portion of the steroid era.  Steroids were banned in 1991 by MLB but they didn't even test for them - at all - for a decade.

 

March 5th, 2013 at 9:53 AM | One of the largest hallmarks (Score:5 Normal)
Blue-Chip
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One of the largest hallmarks of the PED users was their longevity. Bonds was a freak past 40. Same with Clemens. Griffey's late years saw a decline in performance, and much less durability. He showed a very natural career arc. I don't think the years he played should be enough to call him guilty.

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March 5th, 2013 at 10:24 AM | 100% agree (Score:3 Normal)
2014
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Griffey's career arc completely maps with stars from prior generations. If there is one clean supertar, it's him.

March 5th, 2013 at 5:13 PM | Or his body broke down (Score:-1 Flamebait)
March 5th, 2013 at 12:14 AM | New Yankee Stadium would do (Score:3 Normal)
Swazi
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New Yankee Stadium would do that to anyone hitting there.

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March 4th, 2013 at 11:11 PM | I am over it. Move the (Score:5 Normal)
LongLiveBo
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I am over it. Move the fences back 30-50 ft. and let's embrace watching mutants play baseball.

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March 4th, 2013 at 11:12 PM | Mutants only play football. (Score:4 Normal)
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Mutants only play football.

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March 5th, 2013 at 3:11 PM | Not true. (Score:2)
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They also played hockey.

And sometimes even baseball...

Though it always seemed to get interrupted....

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March 5th, 2013 at 1:37 AM | Not just HR's (Score:4 Normal)
WMUgoblue
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Homeruns isn't the only thing that steroid ingestion affects (correct usage yes?). Melky Cabrera is the perfect example, his HR total wasn't off the charts but his BABIP came in at an insane .379 showing that just that little extra power enabled him to get the ball past the the infielders and safely on base. Quite simply a weak grounder to short could end up being a sharp single into left for steroid users.

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March 5th, 2013 at 9:31 AM | Actually in that usage you (Score:1 Normal)
evenyoubrutus
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Actually in that usage you could have said "affects" OR "effects" if you had wanted to get fancy with your words.

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

March 4th, 2013 at 11:11 PM | I wonder if Gene Lamont is (Score:5 Normal)
redwhiteandmaize
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I wonder if Gene Lamont is juicing.

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March 4th, 2013 at 11:11 PM | Say it ain't so, Curtis.  (Score:5 Normal)
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Say it ain't so, Curtis.  That'd be a major pisser - even several years after the Grandy trade he's one of my favorite guys to have suited up for the Tigers in the past decade or so.  But then, here we all thought that short right-field porch at Yankee Stadium was the reason for his sudden 40-homer binges.

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March 4th, 2013 at 11:12 PM | This would make me pretty (Score:5 Normal)
WMUgoblue
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This would make me pretty sad. I loved Curtis and his time here in Detroit on and off the field, don't get me wrong Austin Jackson is the superior player, but Curtis still is one of my favorite Tigers.

There was a rumor sometime over the summer of Cano possibly being busted but nothing ever came of that, so maybe there is fire from that smoke? Are these soures all that credible?

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March 4th, 2013 at 11:12 PM | i see only one rational solution (Score:5 Normal)
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Make the Yankees vacate all 27 WS championships. Rotten cheaters.

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March 4th, 2013 at 11:26 PM | You should replace Bud (Score:3 Normal)
APBlue
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You should replace Bud Selig...immediately.

March 4th, 2013 at 11:17 PM | HA (Score:2)
Paps
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HA- I drafted him realy late 2 years ago in Fantasy Baseball, just as a bench player, and then he went out and hit 41 HRs after hitting 24 the year before.  Pretty much won the league for me.

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March 5th, 2013 at 12:34 PM | I see a refund in the future of the other team owners (Score:1)
1201SouthMain
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Your team was juiced!

March 4th, 2013 at 11:29 PM | That website doesn't look to (Score:1)
ghost
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That website doesn't look to be to reliable to put it mildly.  As far as him being right about Cabrera, well a broken clock is right twice a day.  I highly doubt it takes 6 months to get test results back or that the Yankees would be offering Cano an extension if they knew he was going to be suspended (and there is no way this random guy would have better sources than the Yankees).  He could be right, but this guys loses nothing if he is wrong and looks great if he is right.  How many false realignment rumors have we seen the past 2 years from random twitter sources.

March 4th, 2013 at 11:28 PM | I really didn't expect Curtis (Score:5 Normal)
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I really didn't expect Curtis to ever cheat.  Looking back, his power did seem surprising for someone not that big, but he just seems like an honest guy.

If true, then nobody getting caught will surprise me...even my 8 year old niece that plays soccer might be juicing for all I know. 

 

March 4th, 2013 at 11:49 PM | Yeah, I know that soccer team (Score:3 Normal)
APBlue
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Yeah, I know that soccer team you're talking about. Three words: Deer Antler Spray.

/s

March 5th, 2013 at 12:17 AM | You know the roids aren't (Score:0 Flamebait)
March 5th, 2013 at 8:52 AM | After how much PED's have (Score:5 Normal)
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After how much PED's have been in the news the past several years, it's still insane to me how little people understand about them. Lance Armstrong weighed 155 pounds and won 7 Tour De France's, so do you think he was clean or wasn't using them well? The effects of steroids are not limited to muscle hypertrophy. Things like insulin, GH, and hCG are not even steroids. 15 minutes on Wikipedia, people.

March 5th, 2013 at 10:27 PM | We're talking about hitting (Score:2)
denardogasm
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We're talking about hitting home runs though, not biking across France.  And Lance's thighs are pretty huge for 155.

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March 4th, 2013 at 11:29 PM | Really sad if true (Score:1)
JamieH
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Would explain how a guy like Grandy suddenly became a 40 home-run masher though.

Definitely makes the Tiger's dealing him for Jackson look like a great move if it is true.

March 4th, 2013 at 11:42 PM | Not exactly. (Score:1)
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He did improve against lefties and AL east stadiums are more hitter friendly. Remember he did hit 30 HRs for the Tigers. Not buying this story until a proven source says so.

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March 4th, 2013 at 11:59 PM | He bats lefty and Yankee (Score:2)
M Fanfare
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He bats lefty and Yankee Stadium has a short porch in right.

Boom, science'd.

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Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!

March 5th, 2013 at 4:24 AM | Jacksons 300 season (Score:1)
85Lee
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Amazing glove and reasonable contract make that deal look good. I loved grandersons character and work in the community but I always thought he was vastly over rated as a player. I still have nightmare of him and Inge waiving at breaking balls with 2 strikes.

March 5th, 2013 at 10:49 AM | He's hit 37 HRs over the last (Score:3 Insightful)
LandonC
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He's hit 37 HRs over the last two seasons on the road.  The short porch in Yankee Stadium has helped but it doesn't explain it all.  

March 4th, 2013 at 11:58 PM | Is PED use as rampant in (Score:5 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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Is PED use as rampant in other sports as it is in baseball, or do other leagues sweep it under the rug.

Yes on both counts.  Eventually, the NBA is going to get exposed on this (there are a rumblings about a few well-known stars).

 

 

March 5th, 2013 at 12:02 AM | I don't think NBA fans would (Score:3 Normal)
ghost
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I don't think NBA fans would care much if a star player got caught for PEDs.  NFL fans don't.  

March 5th, 2013 at 12:07 AM | I think most fans do care, (Score:2 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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I think most fans do care, NFL included.  They just like to compartmentalize/rationalize it away.  ("Well, their guy might be on 'roids, but our guy can't be, because he does charity work!")  You don't want your idol to be a doper.  But even if fans won't care, but the USADA would.  

 

March 5th, 2013 at 9:08 AM | The USADA has no oversight of (Score:2)
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The USADA has no oversight of the NBA, NFL, MLB, or NHL. Those sports manage their drug policies and testing internally and can do as they please. They only monitor Olympic sports and international sports that contract with them for WADA approved testing (like cycling). .

March 5th, 2013 at 9:09 AM | NFL fans cleary don't. (Score:1)
ghost
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NFL fans cleary don't.  Rodney Harrison got suspended for doping and he is now working in a fairly prominent role for NBC. You never see fans at NFL games taunting guys who have been caught with signs like you do in baseball.

March 5th, 2013 at 12:02 AM | Tears... (Score:3 Normal)
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I loved Curtis. 

2013 will be the year.

March 5th, 2013 at 12:32 AM | If true this is truly (Score:2)
denardogasm
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If true this is truly shocking and disappointing. He always seemed like the most clean cut kid since Denard Robinson.

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-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

March 5th, 2013 at 12:38 AM | As a baseball player this is (Score:0 Normal)
March 5th, 2013 at 12:53 AM | PED never helped him (Score:4 Normal)
gustave ferbert
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to hit a down and away curve ball that he always (and I mean always) chases.  . .  

it's sad, no matter how he was at the plate, no one can dispute his defense. . .

I still look at the home run robbing catch against Grady Sizemore to put me in a better mood.

March 5th, 2013 at 1:03 AM | "Like Spiderman, he climbs the wall" (Score:3 Normal)
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March 5th, 2013 at 10:25 AM | yes! (Score:1)
gustave ferbert
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thank you. I loved the Indians call too!  "Gooooonne!!!! No it's not. . . .Granderson caught it. . ."

March 5th, 2013 at 12:56 AM | Please do not rush to (Score:4 Normal)
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Please do not rush to judgement. This "source" looks less than legit. Last I checked, Les Miles is still coach at LSU, right? You can't go believing everything some hack with an illegitimate blog says to get clicks.

LSA '11
March 5th, 2013 at 1:10 AM | /gets popcorn ready (Score:3 Normal)
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/gets popcorn ready

March 5th, 2013 at 8:48 AM | Wait, (Score:4 Normal)
nmumike
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everything on the internet is not true?

"It is better, of course, to know useless things than to know nothing."

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March 5th, 2013 at 1:20 AM | Oh, well... (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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