Kinda funny, kinda sad:
fair point that
Kinda funny, kinda sad:
I heard that MSU was buying the rights to the state penitentiary
in Jackson so that they could recruit more crim...I mean students to the football team.
Looks like somebody lost a bet. Wonder "to whom?" and "on what" (and also "how drunk?")
Yes I'm a lawyer. Hiring partner of my firm and have had SO MANY ridiculously bad candidates apply to my firm from this Cooley Law School. Some who could barely write and few who interviewed worth a damn. I've started to not send job postings to them. I know a few decent attorneys from Cooley, but most are older and graduated far before they became the community college of law schools by having a campus in every outpost in the state.
LOOK - Would you want to hire a lawyer who graduated from a law school that had to advertise on billboards and buy stadium naming rights! Professional schools shouldn't be advertising publicly. PERIOD! It says everything about the fact that they're just a mill to make money by accepting every person who applies, charging them a ton, dumping many of them before they graduate and then overloading the legal market for entry level candidates such that firms won't pay these kids anything. They do a disservice to their own students and the legal community and I'm shocked they haven't been closed down yet.
I know a bunch of you on this site are still UofM undergrads. Cooley apparently has big recruiting days at UofM and throws scholarship money around left and right. My advice DON'T DO IT!!! You shouldn't spend three years of your life and any of your money to earn a degree that ends up as a blemish on your resume.
Cosign every word of it. i'm an attorney as well and I went to UM undergrad and then UD law. Cooley floods the market with graduates who are ill-prepared and they fail out a ton of people after their first year. You really have to question when the "nation's largest law school" is located in one of the nation's most economically depressed states. I know some quality attorneys from there, but again they are mostly older.
Certainly any prospective law students should stay away no matter how much money they throw at you. sadly, you will get what you pay for.
I would tell anyone thinking about law school to strongly consider other options unless (1) they know -exactly- what job they want to get through use of that law degree; (2) have some sort of “in” to help with the placement into that job; and (3) can gain admission into one of the top-14 programs.
Please note that I'm not saying that you can only get a good legal education at a top-14 program -- I actually believe the difference between the legal education you get at, say, UM's law school and UToledo's law school is minimal and possibly doesn't exist. But recruiters care. (Right, Angell?) So, based on the glut in the legal market, what's the point of spending three years and a shit-ton of money for a job that isn't there, or that won't help pay back loans?
Look, right now the legal job market in Southeast Michigan SUCKS!!! There are a HELL of a lot more attorneys out there than there are jobs. I feel LOUSY for these kids who have racked up three more years of student loans only to find out that what few entry level jobs are available are only paying $30,000 or $40,000.
We had an opening last summer when one of my attorneys went on permanent maternity leave. Entry level spot. I wrote in the job posting "entry level pay regardless of experience, please no one who has yet to pass the bar". I was trying to dissuade all the kids who had just graduated but were about to take the bar and scare off the out of work experienced attorneys. Only posted for one week at Wayne State and UofD law school hiring offices and an additional week on Lawyers Weekly.com. Still got 200 resumes in 2 wks.