ryanfourmayor

May 27th, 2011 at 7:28 PM ^

I think its really cheesy. Grand Rapids does have a ton to offer like art prize and laugh fest but this video really sucks. For the dollar amount is supposedly cost it wasnt well planned.

krag19

May 27th, 2011 at 7:51 PM ^

 

The whole point of the video was to show newsweek that GR isn't a "dying American city." This was organized by a guy named Rob Bliss who is not a major film maker. Along with that, the people in it are residents of the city of Grand Rapids showing their support and love for their city. How isn't it well planned if a 9 minute video is shot continously without edits...??? So if you want to call it cheesy fine, but keep in mind it wasn't meant to be the next blockbuster hit. It is a youtube video to show support for a city so many are proud to call their home. 

acnumber1

May 27th, 2011 at 7:46 PM ^

If pricey, not worth it, if in one continuous loop...wow.

If done to promote and celebrate a city....odd choice of song.

Edit:  Very cool experience for all participating, particularly the kids. Something I'm sure they'll remember forever and share with kids/grandkids.

 

Wish we'd have seen a brawl between marching band and football team when the 'players tried to take the field but the marching band refused to yield'...and a little whiskey would've been nice to see.  Good old boys, too.

jmblue

May 28th, 2011 at 2:44 AM ^

The last time I was in Grand Rapids, they were putting up a statue of Rosa Parks, commemorating her as a "notable Grand Rapidian" or something like that.  Maybe I'm missing something, but didn't she spend her whole life outside of the South in Detroit? 

SoullessHack

May 27th, 2011 at 9:50 PM ^

1) Anyone who thinks this "wasn't well planned" has never tried to make any kind of film.  I've been lucky enough to earn a living in Los Angeles the last eight years or so as a writer and producer of scripted television.  I just shot a pilot for CBS this past April (didn't get picked up... grumblegrumblegrumble).  I'm not saying this to brag (notice I'm not actually giving you my, ahem, "credits"), but rather to give some context for my opinion.  And my opinion is this: Nice f'ing work, Grand Rapids. 

Shooting a nine-and-a-half minute, one take film that involves a cast of hundreds of non-professional actors and the closure of multiple streets, timed fireworks, etc requires a ridiculous amount of planning.  Whether you like the finished product or not, to say that this was "not well planned" only displays your ignorance and cynicism.

 

2) "The Day The Music Died" is on my Top 5 list of most hated songs of all time.  That said, I completely understand why they chose it - because there aren't too many nine-and-a-half minute songs that pretty much everyone knows by heart (whether they want to or not). 

 

3) I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY REVEALED THE HELICOPTER BEFORE THE FINAL SHOT.  What a tragic, tragic mistake.  Would have been a lot better to just back the camera in it and then play the rising shot as a surprise. 

ryanfourmayor

May 27th, 2011 at 9:52 PM ^

I didn't really see much that wasn't too difficult. sure planning where the camera goes and who comes in where would take practice. a lot of lip dubs are harder songs and maybe shorter but usually have more people popping in and out. most of the time there wasnt even a person dubbing the lyrics.

the helicopter shot was a mistake...they could have used it to show more of grandrapids and I agree they shouldn't have gave it away.

SoullessHack

May 28th, 2011 at 2:44 AM ^

You didn't really see much that wasn't too difficult?  (Which techincally means you did see a lot that wasvery difficult, but we'll save the explanation of double-negatives for a later day.)  Really?

You close down six or seven block sections of a downtown all the time, do you?  That's easy?  You talk other people into giving you $30,000 for your non-profit creative endeavor three times before lunch every day?  That just a walk in the park, is it? 

Did you notice there how many parked cars were not in the shots?  Where were the cars that normally line the streets?  It's easy for you to pick up a car with your bare hands and move it seven blocks away, is it?  That must be nice.  Furthermore, where did all those people who appeared in the video park their cars?  Miles away? And yet they showed up on time, in the correct spot at the correct time?  You don't think someone set aside free parking for, say, about 500 people, drawn from different groups (random people, college students, a choir, a football team, a marching band, cheerleaders, a gymnastics team) and gave them all directions and made sure each and every one of them was exactly where they were supposed to be?  Or do you think there's a group of tiny girls who do backflips all day long on one very specific part of downtown Grand Rapids and the organizers could just, you know, count on them being there.  "Oh, you know those gymnastics girls.  They'll be there.  They're backflipping all day down by Monroe.  Just like the sparkler people across the river."

How many layers of bureacracy do you think it takes to get approval for (portions of) a high school marching band and a football team (and a cheer team, and a choir, all from different school districts) to appear in this video?  (There better not be any offensive lyrics in the song - which is another reason why "The Day The Music Died," God awful song that it is, is a good choice for something like this.)  How are you going to get them there?  You're just going to bank on the fact that ten different groups of teenagers will be exactly where you want them to be on time and ready do exactly  what you want them to?  Seriously?  If you bring them in via ten different buses or vans, someone has to pay the bus/van company.  If you use district school buses/vans, you'd better have insurance in case they crash on the way there.  Try calling up your nearest school district and asking them if they'll lend you a marching band, a football team, enough buses and enough drivers for a video you want to shoot.  See what they say.  (If you're feeling lucky, tell them the video involves fireworks.  They'll love that.)

And that's for just one, forty-five second section of a 9 and a half minute video.  And yet... you didn't see anything that took much planning.

Again, making a video like this is not my life's dream.  I wouldn't waste my time on it.  But obviously a great many people spent a very considerable amount of their time doing this.  To just dismiss it as "not very well planned" is... well, like I said, ignorant and cynical.

mgobleu

May 27th, 2011 at 10:21 PM ^

Yeah, for the most part, I love Grand Rapids and west MI is a pretty awesome place. Every time I travel, i always feel good to get back home. I really think there's alot to offer here, with GR being unique in its size, relative to its proximity to beautiful freshwater beaches, wide open fields and deep woods and forests. Its a big enough town to be able to find almost anything you'd want*, yet small enough that you don't have to go far to get out of town. That said, this video made me a little embarassed. Really, really cheez-dorky. I appreciate Rob Bliss and all the effort he puts in to promote GR, and he's actually drawn some good national press for some of his stuff, but all of his projects have a real, "Oh gosh, what now, Bliss???" feel to them. Big ideas, not-so-great implementation.

 

*Except for seafood. We have Red Lobster (meh), Charley's Crab ($$$) and Leo's ($$$). Strange thing to bitch about, I know, but my wife and I just got done complaining about not having a decent place for crab and settled on Qdoba instead.

mmiicchhiiggaann

May 27th, 2011 at 11:13 PM ^

I almost didn't even watch it because of some of the negative comments above, but I have no clue how someone could say that didn't take planning or skill. That was incredible for one single loop.

 

On a second note is it a requirement  for every single person in GR to own a guitar, unbelieveble.

MGoBender

May 27th, 2011 at 11:23 PM ^

I can't believe all the flaming going on...

That was an amazingly planned video on a large scale done in one take.  As mentioned, the only thing that would have made it better was not revealing the helicoptor.

The Shredder

May 28th, 2011 at 12:10 AM ^

As a former film student this was pretty damn good. Very hard to pull off. Any haters should really go get bent(people still say that?)

As said before the only real error was the Helicopter shot. Outside of that great work. Go Grand Rapids. 

Lloyd's Boy

May 28th, 2011 at 10:05 AM ^

but let's be honest. If Ann Arbor shut down the downtown area for a day to do something like that more people would be pissed than happy. Traffic is bad enough. To spend 30k on this seems like a waste to me. If I were a GR parent I would be wondering how many books that could buy. Good video, but again, I question the use of resource allocation.

aaamichfan

May 28th, 2011 at 2:16 PM ^

You would take $30k out of your own pocket to produce that video?!? 

The video has 300,000 hits on youtube, and I would be shocked if more than 10% of those are from outside of the Grand Rapids area.

Flying Dutchman

May 28th, 2011 at 10:57 AM ^

I'm familiar with the kid's work, as I live about 1/2 mile from where the helicopter launched.

I would give the video about 7 out of 10.

Rob Bliss = total prima donna.  I hope he makes a huge stunt out of it when he comes out of the closet.

Ernis

May 28th, 2011 at 1:28 PM ^

While I respect the preparation and organization required to pull of these kinds of things ... Flash mobs and what-not ... I just don't see the appeal. I always get the impression from these people -- when interacting with them -- that they're in some sort of cult. It's as if they're proud of being automatons.

What I'm trying to say is: This is creepy fad. Really creepy.