Nice to see Manning do his best Hagerup impersonation on that bobbled snap already.
OT - Conference Championship Sunday - Game(s) thread
I'm rooting for the Patriots and 49ers. Hopefully Tom puts Peyton in his place again.
I'm still smiling from the win over Wisky.
Also awesome to see Charles Woodson on the NFL Network pregame show.
Go Blue, Go Brady! BLUE KNOW IT!
I had forgot who else was at that Heisman ceremony. I knew Charles beat out Peyton, but I had forgotten that Leaf and Moss were there as well. Awesome to see that Charles is still playing while two others in that pic aren't.
The hate for Peyton on this board is unreal.
I dont mind Peyton at all to be honest.....I just like Brady for obvious reasons and I also feel that Brady has done it with much less talent around him than Manning ever had to deal with.
I mean Brady had 1 1/2 yrs with a HOF WR in Moss. Peyton had years with Wayne/Harrison and did squat with it.
I agree. Woodson bested Manning for the Heisman. Brady has been more of a winner and has a head-to-head edge on Peyton. Peyton was in the SEC and has not played in the NFC north. Yes he gets a lot of attention and puts up monster numbers. He is a great quarterback, but even I, as a Peyton homer, admit he leaves much to be desired when it really counts. I just really don't get why Michigan fans dislike him so much.
I don't hate the guy at all. In fact, I enjoy watching him play and think he is hilarious. Some of his commercials and SNL skits are absolutley funny. However, I have also spent time with Tennessee fans and it quickly became MY guy vs THEIR guy and they refuse to acknowledge that Woodson won the Heisman and Peyton didn't deserve it.
I mean, Tom had 140 passing yards in his first Super Bowl. In the early 2000s the Pats had one HELL of a defense, so they didn't need Tom to sling it out as much.
I went to school at Lee U in Cleveland Tn the year we won the NC and Woodson beat Manning for the Heisman. Vols fans suck and I could not stand Peyton which translated into his years with Indy. I was kind of meh about him coming to Denver because of the neck injury and all. Obviously being a Bronco fan I have enjoyed his work with the Denver talent and now helping us get to Da Bowl. Peyton has been to multiple divisional championships, several super bowls and helped win one! Maybe Manning had a bit more talent but Brady had the better teams! I am a Brady fan for sure (not against my Broncos) but would have loved if they beat the Broncos for him to help the Pats win another one. Most Michigan fans have rose colored glasses when it comes to this debate though! They both have had amazing careers and that is the truth!
Go Broncos! Go Blue!
I don't hate Peyton, I just think Brady is better. So I hope that Brady does better whenever they face and just in general throughout his career.
I doubt many people here hate Peyton. In fact I want Denver to win.
With that said, I love the Michigan trolling Peyton meme. Gives me a laugh every time.
And it has been earned.
Hope Brady and his gang of who are we's get it done....besides Edelman I'm not sure the patriots have one WR who would be in the NFL if not for being with the patriots.
Ohhhhhhh, overthrown! Dammit!
"Omaha" joke here:
"Cut that meat! Cut that meat!"
It looks like they are going to be allowing alot of contact on the WRs today, which is fine as long as they call it the same both ways.
LOL...after all the contact in the 1st qtr and they call that crap.
Tough call for NE. 4th and 15 at around the 40. You hate to punt from there, but 4th and 15 is a low percentage play.
Big drive for Denver to at least try to reverse the field.
I am wondering now if Phil Simms would often tell Stacy Robinson that was going to throw the ball so well that he would not catch it and that he would just rather he took the odd offensive PI call if it appeared that holding was imminent. I don't know if that's how it is supposed to work, Phil.
Suspect officiating thus far.
No matter how physical the refs let a game get they are never going to let you grab the WR's arm while the ball is in the air. That was the right call.
It's like an umpire that switches his strike zone throughout innings.
The calls they have let go have been jamming the WRs. There is a big difference between jamming a receiver and grabbing onto one.
mcgary should suit up fur the Broncos
Talib gets hurt every single game I feel like.
Not sure why Welker was allowed to get away with that pick on that pass play and the Denver OL is absolutely mauling the patriot DL right now.
Manning has all day to scan and pick this secondary apart.
they call what appeared to be barely a brush against the Patroits yet two much harder picks set by Denver are let go. Don't make it so obvious NFL. If by mauling you mean a lot of holding I agree.
but welker will still drop a key pass in the second half. . that much is guaranteed.
It does not get called and every NFL O does it. Illegal and dirty because it is against our beloved Michigan QB's team? How did that Welker comment work out for you?
until the super bowl title slips through his fingers.
LOL and the Patriots DL continues to get destroyed.
I feel like the Pats are going to go back to the basement once Brady retires
I don't think they'll be a consistent Super Bowl contender without him. They'll probably still make it to the playoffs, but not be as big of a threat.
That will give some proof to just how great TB's football and leadership skills are! Plus a lot of it has had to deal with Bellicheck as well.
He is the straw that stirs the drink. It would be nice to see Mallet step up and take charge because of his M ties but he obviously has huge shoes to fill.
This is a general question, but do people consider Mallet an alum? I know he techically is, but I never really think of him as one since he was barely there.
I don't but I will say that I have taken an interest in his career because of his time in AA. I know a lot of people were upset that he left but given the circumstances I don't hold his decision against him at all.
Tom Brady has masked kraft's cheapness as it goes in pulling in decent guys. I agree once Brady is gone the Pats are screwed because they are unwilling to spend money.
Seriously. Brady takes less money in order to let them add talent to win another championship...and they do nothing and their best playmaker on O is lining up against them in the conference championship.
I swear there's nothing more infuriating than watching how much better this team could be with just one reliable, healthy receiver.
Drinking game... just kidding, we'd probably die. Payton's said Omaha 10 times all far, the announcers have said it maybe 8,000 times. Seriously, find something to actually talk about, doods.
I wonder what percentage of Jim Nantz's orgasms are Peyton Manning based.
I guess Tiger Woods and Mike Krzyzewski probably keep it below 100%.
You mean Phil not Tiger
Whelp, zebras kept that drive alive. And why can Denver pick with a full body and the Pats get called?
You do realize the most blatant non call of the game was the 3rd and goal no call on the throw to Thomas right? That saved 4 points for NE.
I suspect the fireworks will begin soon. The defenses are not good.
Difference in the game so far....Bronco's are winning the battle in the trenches with ease. Patriots can't run right now and the DL has been pushed around with ease.
Part of that is Denver selling out to stop the run.
Title edited. Sorry if that screws anyone up.
over #2 Minnesota 19-14!!! Huge win by freshman Adam Coon at HWT to seal it
Like I said......Denver is OWNING the trenches right now. It's not even competetive.
Big holding call. Brady may get another shot before half with good field position.
has this patriot secondary been this bad all season long?
This game is frustrating to watch! NE needs to make some adjustments at halftime.
The Patriots' secondary really sucks right now. With a healthy Dennard and Talib, they're ok, but their safeties are bad in my opinion.
This is a handicapped Pats D and, honestly, despite the one drive that Talib got picked on, they're playing ok.
Vonn Miller, Kevin Vickerson, Derek Wolfe, Chris Harris Jr., Champ Bailey hurting. This is the playoffs and generally in any year a team is 'lucky' if they go through the season, postseason without significant injury! Injuries happen all over sports and affect great teams. This is a weird debate for me because of how much I enjoy TB as on of GOATs. I also was born in Denver and have been a Bronco lifer! I just see a lot of Michigan fans on here whinning about this game because things are not going well for one of our beloveds. This was a competitive game, however the Broncos dominated in all phases.
Bad use of a timeout there.
Week 12 was a 24-point deficit. 10 doesn't seem that daunting. The Pats WRs are getting some decent looks. An overthrown Edelman (would have been a TD) and a bad penalty have killed them. Make some halftime adjustments (Belichick's specialty) and you can get back in this.
First time I think I head Amandola's name all day.
A couple long throws by Brady that we're sightly off is the difference in the game. Obviously there's a lot of game to go but I feel like Brady needed to play perfect to beat a more talented Denver team and it hasn't been happening.
Why has Tom Brady had only a handful of big names players to work with on offense in New England? Just seems like that team has underspent for playmakers (especially at RB and WR) ever since Brady took over from Bledsoe. I realize Randy Moss worked out and Ochocinco did not, but it seems like management hasn't given him true offensive weapons to work with throughout his career.
Every time he talks it sounds like he has a mouth full of grapes.
This "Omaha" crap is beyond old and just annoying at this point. God help us, it will be two weeks of moronic comments about it if Denver wins.
No joke. My idiot ND friend keeps sending me texts that say "Omaha" each time the Broncos score.
Get a new friend. At least for a few weeks.
ND fan friend? Sounds like your fault.
He could say "Neapolitan ice cream" instead to mix things up. Or "car wash."
him how many rings Brady and Peyton have.
Patriots need the defense to step up. Denver's been controlling the clock making 3rd downs and Manning's got EXREMELY lucky a couple of floaters werent picked off.
Somewhat lucky and awful coverage by the NE corners. When you constantly fail to look back and locate the ball QBs will realize it.
Logan Ryan getting burned.
from the broncos spinning the ball after every catch is low rent
The single coverage to the sidelines seems to be open all day for manning
Did anyone else notice in pregame how Belichick took the wind when he won the toss for OT against the Broncos earlier this season?
The Patriots' D is getting owned right now. Brady has to play better and hit those deep passes he missed earlier, but it won't matter if their D does nothing.
This is like being stabbed by needles repeatedly. No big wounds , just lots of little ones.
NE's D is going to be exhausted. This is a devasting drive, especially if it ends in 7.
Piss poor defense. Just awful.
I have come to the sad conclusion that if I like a team....or....like today when I am simply rooting for a team....they absolutely MUST play soft coverage on the corners and not rush the QB.
I have absolutely no idea what it's like to have a team I'm wanting to win do anything but play "bend but don't break" defense.
Start liking the Broncos, please.
Michigan Wolverines. Cleveland Browns. Pats in the playoffs.
Come to think of it, the Pats are the only palatable option for winning the league this year. Evil vs. Evil in the NFC. I don't care where Jimmy played ball, he still hypocritically talked trash about my school when in fact his club was doing the exact same thing with its players.
Amendola filling in admirably for Welker.
What? He's awful.
Seriously? I made the comment after a drop. Sarcasm, man.
Third and two feet is a passing down. They were in the freaking shotgun. What happened to my father's NFL?
Denver's dt knight on has made tons of huge plays this game. Can't help but feel that failed conversion is effectively ball game
I just don't feel the Brady - Michigan connection as much as someone like Burke. Maybe it's the passing of time, or his role.
It may have something to do with Boston teams having so many bandwagon fans. Patriot fans are something like Penguin fans. As soon as they stop winning most of their fans will be gone.
I hate Belichick, so there's that.
It's definitely got to be the passing of time, let's not forget one of them stayed for all four years as compared to just 2.
You can certainly appreciate the both and their respective accomplishments, but Brady is just as much, if not more of a representative of Michigan than Burke is.
True, but it's not like Brady was turning down potential multi-million dollar contracts out of loyalty.
even though he'd waited his turn to start. And he came back to speak to the team this fall. If you didn't catch the video, do. It should answer any questions about his deep connection to Michigan, even though his treatment may have led to his low draft position (which didn't give him a multimillion dollar start). 'Course that seems to have worked out okay.
My favorite Cinderella story. So I admit to a very strong connection to Brady, being old enough to have watched him at Michigan and in the few televised preseason minutes he got to play in his rookie year. Seemed so grateful for the opportunity, and me of little faith assumed that would probably be the last we'd see of him, backing up Bledsoe and all.
That'd be nice.
Is GERG coaching the NE defense?
Not the D coordinators fault. Denver's O is just really good.
Should the snowflakes thread be created now?
Giselle is gonna be pissed.
She can come by and cry on my shoulder.
At this rate I don't see much of a chance for a comeback. Hopefully I'm wrong and they pull out some mgic. Man I didn't think Denver's offense would handle the Patriots D like they're doing.
I am surprised that the Denver D has basically shut down NE. Its suprising when anyone does that to Brady, but this Denver D hasn't been that good all year.
You didn't? Talib is out and their offense is incredible.
Even with Talib, I thought they'd be able to control them a bit better.
How many passes have the Broncos dropped?
Looks like 3 TD drives with 2 successful onside kicks will be the only way the Pats can win.
If Manning has all day to throw, it's big trouble. It's too bad to see Tom Brady struggle having to play with a bunch of mediocre receivers and running backs.
I'd say the Pats possess above-average backs.
Not that it particularly showed in this game.
Gotta get the first one. Still time.
They have got to start calling a delay of game on these injuries.
That is never ever going to happen. With leagues so concerned about player safety calling a penalty for delay of game would be incredibly stupid.
Agree, but they need to make players sit out more if they go down. A lot of these "injuries" seem oddly timed. Again, they'll never call a penalty, but maybe making it "safer" by making a player sit out more than one play would derail some of the questionable injuries.
Fair point. Balance of the quarter and next? Just making it the series won't do it.
They're not dead!
Hey Patriots corners....
You think maybe actually...i dunno....LOOKING FOR THE FUCKING BALL EVERY ONCE AND A FUCKING WHILE MIGHT HELP?
Just a thought.
This game ended when Welker cheap-shot Talib in the first quarter. Too many weapons for Peyton to handle them short-handed.
It was a pick. Not a cheap shot. Not even close. The Patriots are known for using picks in the passing game as well so its kind of hard to flip out about the Broncos doing it also.
Also even if Talib plays the entire game that doesn't help NE scoring 3 points in the first 3 quarters.
He threw his body into him. No call. Pathetic. And part of the NE offense not scoring was the Broncos keeping the ball for so long.
He threw pick. Its not a cheap shot. And NE got away with a whole lot more on the throw to Thomas in the endzone. It isn't the difference in the game.
pats only had like 4 possessions all game cuz pats d couldn't keep manning off the field
That was their 8th of the game.
We all have injuries, Coach Izzo.
...never count out Touchdown Tom?
If the Pats end up losing (likely), there's no way I will root for Denver in the Super Bowl. Just can't do it.
Maybe a blizzard?
Not over yet!
HE CAN RUN, TOO!
The prevent defense in action lol.
Comeback Kid in Happy Valley there
That should do it.
That'll lengthen the odds.
What kind of a play call was that?
It was much better than Borges's in the osu game
That's probably game.
Failed 2pt converstion. Can the Patriots get two stops, and score. Probably not.
has been preying on prevent d all year. too bad he's been so mediocre against regular d for 3 quarters
I don't understand why not throw, Brady had a bunch of momentum.
Onside kick needs work coach.
Note to self - when watching the game on delay, log off MGoBlog game thread. The Pats scored, huh?
Smart play by Tamme to stay in bounds.
Certainly by his standards, but only 10 meaningful points in 55 minutes.
Manning was easily the better QB today. His accuracy and the way he threw receivers open was ridiculous. Brady was overthrowing guys a lot.
Jesus, their D is horrible. Seriously, cover someone.
is it so wrong for me to root for Peyton Manning and the Broncos
We win for years and years we've eaten Peyton for lunch? I think it's his time.
I miss Tebow. The Pats had a way of eviscerating the Broncos when he was around.
hence, I miss him.
Manning is a good guy. I'm a Brady guy, but Manning is a class act. I'll be rooting for him against whomever he plays in the Super Bowl.
Is really good. When can one of my teams have something similar?
I really believe our Michigan Wolverines are close.
The media will of course make this about the QBs, but if you switched Brady and Manning, the result would have been the same.
Manning was much better today. Brady wasn't nearly as accurate.
He's saying if you give Brady Moreno, Decker, Welker, and both Thomas' he probably would have been just as accurate, and more than likely would have won.
He overthrew open receivers a number of times.
So did Peyton. The difference was that when Brady missed, it was much more obvious because of the few opportunities his WRs gave him on the day.
Heck if you just gave him Gronk back, Tom probably would have won.
However, it should be time for people to recognize the Bronco O is really, really good and they were better than the pats d. Gronk would have made a slight difference but not a winning difference.
I love Brady, but he missed a couple crucial passes today. It was unfortunately an off day for him. However, I do think Patriots were missing too many crucial pieces on defense and offense, to truely have a competetive day against the Broncos at their home. Peyton had the crowd on his side, and did anyone else notice that after almost every play, the Broncos had a defensive player on the ground hurt. If they were doing that to slow down the Patriots, which I believe they were, there needs to be something done about not letting a defense do that.
Peyton had several overthrows as well, it's just that they weren't crucial or noticed because the very next play would be yet another 15-yard gain. Manning also had way more time than Brady. I didn't see much difference in play from the QBs in this game.
Is why does Brady put up with these BS moves by the patriots that leave him with no weapons. He needs to put his foot down and demand they spend some cash to get players. He is 36 and his window is closing.!
In fairness, the Pats lost a lot of starters this year. You bring back Gronk, Vince Wilfork, and Jerod Mayo, and the Patriots actually probably win this game. They still need to get him a true deep threat, but injuries happen. Oh and Thompkins didn't play today either, and Talib got hurt in the first. Just loads of injuries. I see your point though, but I think getting their guys back and having a good draft is good enough. Maybe sign a good receiver so Tom has a veteran deep threat.
You bring back Ryan Clady, Vonn Miler, Kevin Vickerson, Derek Wolfe, Chris Harris, a healthier Champ Bailey and I say it would not have been close even with the other injured Patriots. Either way healthy or not the Patriots were not as good.
If your the Pats and you look at Denver with Manning for 1 to 2 more years they just have way more talent then the Pats. In two years Brady is 38. I don't think you can afford to wait it out. It goes against the Patriot way but its time to sell out the future to get what they need to win now. Barring an early Manning retirement they just don't have the team they need to compete.
The Patriot injuries and "Belichick best coaching job ever" stories get recycled any year the Pats don't win it all.
The "What's Your Deal?" Bowl.
Goddamn I love that stadium.
Die Hard Broncs Fan here! All I can say is a Rick Flair WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'm celebrating tonight! i love 2014!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also a Die Hard Life long Bronco fan! Go Broncos! I saw Bon Jovi sitting in Krafts box. I actually thought that he co-owned an arena football team with John Elway at one point (speaking of famous people in the building)?
Ummm what? I don't like the Niners but Jesus that's an awful call.
My God what an awful call. He barely pushed him and the guy didn't even sell it!
I would like to see Seattle make it to the Superbowl. But won't complain if the 49ers make it.
I was torn between the Pats and Broncos. I hated the Cowboys growing up so I was rooting for the orange crush in their superbowl game against Dallas. I don't mind seeing Denver in the Superbowl. Though, I would have been rooting for Brady if the Pats would have made it.
San Fran screwed out a fumble recovery. Seems like they've gotten the short end tonight.
Whoa this Sherman is a piece of work.
Congrats to the collaborative effort of the referees and Seattle you got the win as a group effort.
First time the #1 Defense and the #1 Offense meet in the Super Bowl since 1990. Should be a really good game.
anyone see sherman's postgame interview:
andrews is going to need therapy after that one. i can see why harbaugh was bragging about stanford being a cut above the rest while he was there....
I was about as neutral as you can get throughout the game, but after watching that display, I wish I'd been pulling for the 49ers.
I was lukewarm for the Niners, and my preference for the Broncos in the Super Bowl just quadrupled.
I do not thing anyone saw it? Was it good?