OT: Complicated job help/relocation

Submitted by Helloheisman on

Ok so here’s the deal it's a bit complicated so HOLD ON! My wife and I moved to Florida once she graduated nursing school a couple of years ago. I moved with my company on some empty promises in which my job fizzled out and hers blossomed. I then fielded tons of job interviews one kept coming back to me, but with sales being down they couldn’t hire me as they wanted. The first time I interviewed with the company I simply didn't get the job, as I kept in touch and got a second interview I was pretty much all but hired but supposedly H.R. wouldn't approve it due to above mentioned sales issues. Since then my wife and I moved back to MI we both have taken jobs, neither is really what we want to do, and if I can persuade this hiring manager to bring me on we would definitely move back. but there’s the issue... How do I persuade a manager that I will be more than willing to slap down my two weeks notice tomorrow and move? Any help is appreciated as this is keeping me up and driving me crazy.

P.S. Almost forgot to mention the managers secretary was the one who emailed me today asking for me to re-apply for the position... feels like a good sign but who knows...

bliang

June 2nd, 2010 at 2:59 AM ^

Don't discuss this in your interview; it would be a huge mistake.  That is, unless he asks a soft-ball question like "how soon would you be available to start?"  Even then, the point is to tell the interviewing manager:

  1. Yes, I'm seriously interested in the job. 
  2. I'm currently employed, but I don't see myself there in 5 years; I like _____ aspect of your business and think I could succeed.
  3. The fact that I'm not jobless means you can't lowball me; in fact, you'll need to offer me some incentive to relocate my family and start over.

Typically, there are hiring regulations for how long a job posting must remain open to the public (maybe it's different in FL).  In all likelihood the company already has a timeline for when they expect to bring someone in (unless this is a temp position) -- you revealing that you desperately want to change jobs and your eagerness to relocate right away are probably not selling points here.  Above all, don't burn the boats with your current employer (this is not M basketball) -- you never know if there might be another HR issue.

Good luck.

Helloheisman

June 2nd, 2010 at 3:03 AM ^

I took my job with the understanding that my current boss/friend is looking and he took me on in the understanding that we are completely open with each other if we are approached for any positions. But thanks for the advice of using this as leverage.

UMdad

June 2nd, 2010 at 9:14 AM ^

I have done some hiring, and I always assume whatever an employee would do to a previous employer they would do to me.  If they mention that their current employer knew that they were looking because they wanted to move, wanted better hours, wanted to work closer to home, etc. and that they wanted to give at least a two week notice, I took it as a positive sign that they wouldn't leave me in the lurch.

NomadicBlue

June 2nd, 2010 at 7:52 AM ^

What kind of job/industry is this?

I am in engineering and have had a few jobs over the past couple of years.  All of my hiring processes have been pretty straight forward and transparent.  To me, it sounds like they are stringing you along pretty good.  I have seen this happen to friends of mine.  A company interviews a person and decides that they are a good talent and would like them to come on board.  However, the circumstances are not exactly optimal at the time for whatever reason.  So, they keep telling the prospect that they want them and to keep applying or"hold tight".  Why? Simple - so the prospect doesn't find another position that he/she would be equally happy with.  Or, the prospect is really the company's second/third choice and wants to keep them on the hook for as long as possible so they have a back-up for the position. 

Not saying this is what is going on, but if sounds a little too familiar. 

To answer your main question, though - tell him oyu are willing to move immediately. 

ambamb

June 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 AM ^

I don't quite understand your quandry here. If the hiring manager contacts you, and that is a big if since the assistant contacted you, and asks any questions about your current position, let him know it was a temporary situation. Emphasize it was difficult to leave Florida, and you definitely would like to get back. Make sure you have researched the company well.