OT: Coaching Carousel: Butch Jones to Tennessee

A 6-6 coach doesn't receive to many calls....

Look what a dumpster fire Tennessee has been since they let Fulmer go.  Dantonio has had some good results with talent that's less than what he could expect to recruit for UT, he plays a run-oriented, smashmouth brand of ball that Fulmer used to coach (Peyton Manning years excepted, of course), and he has no problem recruiting the kind of borderline psycho that Tennessee has been signing for years.

Plus he even beat THE MIGHTY ESS EEE SEE in a bowl game last year...conference runner-up UGA, in fact.

Tennessee making a play for Dantonio isn't the worst move they could make...you have no idea what a joke the Derek Dooley years have been and how much butthurt that fanbase is dealing with going back to Kiffin.

Wash rinse repeat for any SEC school.

They are pissed in Arky about BB.

THey should of never pushed Fulmer out the door.  They are reaping the result of that decision from a group of people who know business but don't know anything about football.

UT and Auburn deserve anything they get.

How much better would both schools be if they didn't fire those two coaches.

it's not Gruden.  I will never understand.  

that the ceiling is very high at Tennesee, however, and I think that the job does have some appeal.  You are not divisional with Alabama and LSU.  Granted Florida is no small bump in the road but I think all in all, the last four year debacle notwithstanding, that it is a better job than Arkansas.  Tennessee will rise again, Fulmer held on too long creating what I call the Robert Parish effect on the Vols, but that school has too much rich tradition and regional recruiting possibilities to stay down for long.  Butch's main problem is that the fan base wants a contender now, and they are a good two recruiting classes and quite a bit of house cleaning away from that.  He will struggle for three seasons and get canned only to watch the next coach come in and win the SEC east.

fingers crossed man, fingers crossed

Enos hasn't dug the crater deep enough in Mt P yet. 

I think the GVSU/CMU/Cincy train is over. Narduzzi would actually be a good hire, I don't think he's going to get a better job as MSU falls back into that 7-5 +/- 1 game range that they belong.

It would certainly help us, because Narduzzi is the only thing holding that ship together IMO. With that said, I think once we get a QB that isn't run-first, we'll be able to combat Narduzzi's blitz happy scheme.

Shane Morris in 3 years picks that defense a part like a Thanksgiving turkey. Doubt we'll ever get to see it because he'll be in the MAC if he doesn't get this UC job.

Yes, their is a CMU to Cinci pipeline, which runs adjacent to the old WVU to UM pipeline.

if the goddamn plane has crashed into the mountain? 

The sheer amount of delusion is awesome. One lady was honestly pissed that Bray wasn't in the Heisman final.

...Tennessee is one of the top 10 all-time winningest programs.  Alabama is the only other SEC school to crack that club.

I'm not sure what the qualifications are for being one of the "top programs in the country" but Tennessee must rank pretty close to it.

I think Tennessee is really just a sleeping giant. They've got history, they've got great facilities, they're pretty much the Southern Michigan. They just gotta find their guy to bring them back, not sure if Butch is the guy though

to how bad it can get. It's sometimes still amazing to me that young people (recruits) have no memory of Tennessee being good. South Carolina has pretty much taken their place in terms of relevance in the SEC. I imagine that makes UT fans vomit

Add in that their guaranteed crossover game is Alabama, which puts them at a competitive disadvantage with every team in the SEC East, save perhaps Florida, which is tied to LSU.

He already did okay at Cincinnati...not great, but okay.

See what I did there?

This was my first thought.  You can tell that MGoBlog is rubbing off on you when your first concern for every question is the effect on Michigan recruiting.  I wondered about Green immediately.  Hope it trends him in a goblueish direction.

that is originally from our state. Go Butch,  represent little ole' Saugatuck, MI!!!

The scary part is, this guy isn't too far off.  Rebel flags and the distinct impression that the civil war isn't quite over hangs in the air around here.  There were a number asking if Fulmer was still available.

I think he's the next head coach of the Eagles. I just think the timing will be right - no one has mentioned it. I'm going with Gruden to the Eagles next year.

They wanted Gruden as bad a we wanted Harbaugh...

However the next part is completely wrong. Butch Jones was like #9 on their list. This is more similar to us and Rich Rod than it is us and Hoke.

They were open with their interested in Gruden, Strong, Briles, Petersen, Patterson and Gundy...then there were a few other names that didn't go public that also told them no.

This was baaad for them. Personally, I always thought they should've been after Kirby Smart because I knew they weren't getting anyone else other than MAYBE Briles or Patterson.

This is completely different from Hoke, we always had Hoke on the radar and when Harbaugh didn't come - Hoke was still there. Butch Jones wasn't anywhere NEAR UT's short list at the beginning of this process. Hell, he probably wasn't on the "long list" either.

As soon as his playing career is over.

He'll have some great assistant coaches and they'll officially be back because of the buzz which will help recruiting.

No way Peyton gets anything less than the #3 rated pocket passer in the country whenever he wants him.

The Tressel they're talking about is Dick Tressel (I think it's Dick) which is Jim's brother and currently on their defensive staff.

Mike Tressel genius, i kid you not

Nothing short of a C-130 could ferry Mark Mangino without a high probability of crashing.

There's no "of" in would've.  It's would have, dammit.

Wasn't dantonio the dc of osu when they won the national title? I think the narduzzi loss would hurt them but I think dantonio being a defensive would certainly cushion the blow.

Depends on if he wants to be a HC or not, I suppose. Some coordinators want to be head coaches and dream of an NFL gig some day, others just want to be coordinators in the NCAA. Since he stayed at MSU this year I often wonder if he was an actual HC candidate at Cincy last time around, or if fans were just throwing his name out there.

it was mcgwire who said that.

That was McGwire.

I think it's possible to suggest that USC's 1991-2001 decade is equivalent, particularly the latter half from 1996-2001 where their records were 6-6, 6-5, 8-5, 6-6, 5-7, 6-6, and losing every year to both Notre Dame and UCLA.

Now it doesn't seem as bad, since we know what followed, but that's a pretty significant collapse for a program of USC's stature with its built in advantages.