Peculiarity is the reason to invesitage for unethical conduct.
frank beamer #1
Peculiarity is the reason to invesitage for unethical conduct.
A picture put up on a social media outlet, that was quickly taken down, showing a load of cash-money no undergraduate athlete has any business possessing. That smells of unethical conduct. (This was done by a former WR from Illinois Michigan was recruiting).
Didn't that picture have like $500 total, or less even?
Really didn't have much money in that picture, certainly an amount you'd expect just about any high school student to be able to gather up to pose for a picture.
I've seen Batman & Robin. It was awful. Mr. Freeze was in it. Therefore, nobody with the name "Freeze" can mean anything good.
Hugh was just on SVP and went on to say that Nkemdiche's brother and Treadwell's best friend were the main reason they even had a chance at those recruits. Not trying to defend but just give his side of the argument.
they brought in the closers: William McKinley, Grover Cleveland and James Madison.
Any school that can re-animate dead presidents is high on my list.
the same division with Alabama/Auburn/LSU/Arkansas and now TAM, there's a lot of pressure to keep up with the joneses, to the point where bending the rules seems acceptable.
You are making yourself look uninformed, dude... TAMU is legit, and players - esp. in Houston and all the Spread Teams in TX ... like 70% of them ... love that Sumlin and Kingsbury (before he left) have Texas wired and they are in the SEC... Beat Bama - the school is hot right now and that's why kids are playing there. It's not because of someone cheating... Stop with the lame analysis...
You're misinterpreting him. He's saying that the further competition of A&M being in the West makes it more tempting to use anything possible.
I look forward to the Hugh Freeze era being expunged from the Ole Miss record books in 2016.
He looks more like a politician than a head coach and we know politicians are honest, god fearing folks!!!!!!!
Last year they had the #40 overall class. They've had 3 five star kids in the last six years, now they have 2 of the top 5 kids in the country. This year they pull the #1 offensive tackle, the #1 wide receiver, and the #1 overall prospect.
But, but, they have women there!
Have you seen there campus!
And they do have the Grove. Which apparently is the most beautiful piece of manicured grass in the history of mankind. Songs have been written of its beauty, and the unwashed masses come from across the world to bask in its glory.
Or it's the money.
So you're saying he "Blind Sided" the other coaches on National Signing Day?
I was late to this joke. Well done sir. I'm going to go cry in a corner. Which corner? The one o'her....
keeping these guys away from Bama, FLA, tosu, etc. is great. If it's dirty it will come out some day, but I'm all for someone else down there stepping on some toes. And, he may be a good recruiter, but time will tell if he can coach.
He pulled in two 4* players last year, sure one of them was from Mississippi but still had two!
It is interesting, to say the least - the average Rivals star rating of his sole class at Arkansas State (as head coach anyway - he was the OC in 2010, I believe) was 2.32, but then I am not familiar enough with the Sun Belt to know if where that would stand, relatively speaking. The 2012 class at Ole Miss, however, rated a 2.95 average, and this year's signing class sits at 3.56, which is nearly 20% better than the previous year. That's something I don't know that I would ever expect at Ole Miss, a jump like that. They did get some high-profile vebal commits early, I believe, but they are behind only the traditional favorites in the SEC for class ranking now. It's a huge jump for them.
with their state of the art football facilities and world class stadium, Ole Miss Alumni will be happy to see all the donations they have made are finally paying off in top of the chart recruits. I forgot to mention the head coach, clearly well known throughout the NCAA, he is absolutely a no brainer to commits across the country. I personally wonder why they have not landed the #1 class in the country. The South has risen again praise the lord.
Yes he was depicted in the movie as a bumbling idiot of a coach. I can see why that would attract kids.
Well it got Ole Miss to higher him...
Hmmm...what do do you think would make them lower him?
Who saw this coming? One might say we just got "blind side"-d.
Amiright? Or amiright?
Hint: when reporters talk about a coach who is good at "closing" that's a euphemism.
They say the same thing about Destiny at Deja Vu.
"Hugh Freeze"? Sounds like a Batman villain.
While I think it's possible that they're paying recruits, I don't find it probable. Let's break down their recruiting class. Of their 27 commits, 16 are consensus (Note: when I say consensus in this post I'm referring to the 247 composite rankings) 3-stars. Of their 7 consensus 4-stars, four (two of them Jucos) are from Mississippi, a state notorious for keeping it's talent home despite rarely having a decent instate program. Now let's look at the four 5-stars that are getting everyone's panties in a bunch. One (Tony Connor) is a local kid, Nkemdiche's brother plays for Ole Miss, and another (LaQuon Treadwell) has a good friend and former teammate (Anthony Standifer) who also currently plays for Ole Miss. So all in all, there are three highly rated players, out of 27 total commits, who don't have an immediately obvious "excuse" for choosing Ole Miss. Now considering that Freeze came in to the job with a reputation as an excellent recruiter and the fact that recruiting can be pretty momentum-based, I find the evidence for any cheating to be circumstantial at best.
This is exactly what I want to see. In this day and age it is much easier to get the ESPN 10 second overview.
1. They had a great class WTF!?!?!
2. Let's hurl insults.
If I could get you to break down the Lions salary cap situation that would be much appreciated. All I get on the talk shows and blogs is LOL Lions when I think if you remove all the Free Agents from the Cap Number it is much different.
Thanks, wish I could help you with the Lions salary cap but I'm not a fan and don't follow the NFL closely enough to know the nitty gritty of how the salary cap works.
That should be four players without an "excuse," but I think my point still stands. Also, it's been awhile since I've posted here and I cannot find a way to edit my post. Any help, please?
EDIT: nevermind about the editing thing, for some reason only my first post didn't have an edit button
I agree to an extent, but the state of Mississippi produces a good-but-not-great amount of D1 talent each year, and Ole Miss has been a bit of a crater the past 3 years. As noted in other posts, this was a school that pulled in decent classes but nothing like a top-3 class. I agree that there is no real proof that anything illegal went down, and the only real smoke is Treadwell's inexplicable Instagram picture, but there is a natural order to things with college sports, and when a team with a checkered history shows up and crashes the party, people become suspicious.
you go somewhere where you can play early, be highly visible and has some players in the NFL. these guys are going to play early, often, and frequently in games against top talent. and their biggest alum has won 2 superbowls in the league's biggest city.
He looks like he's one mutated gene away from being a downs baby.
*Insert South Park "Nothing to see here" office pic here*
Girlfriend from high school attends ole miss now...says that they treat the football players real nice down there, if you catch my drift...CJK5H 'sippi style
So you're telling me that Craig James is killing hookers(allegedly) in Mississippi now? Makes sense, I can see how after his failed political career in Texas he might want to relocate.
In the world of recruiting, I'd say this is a huge outlier as far as recruiting class performance vs expectations.
Sure, MSU pulls in some 4 stars when we're down or random school X gets some better players in some years but what Ole Miss has done given both their track record of on-the-field performance and past recruiting history is just too abnormal for me to be able to accept it as is.
HOW DARE YOU MAKE SUCH ACCUSATIONS! BRIEFCASES FULL OF CASH!? LURING YOUNG MEN WITH SOUTHERN BELLES!? OPTIONAL ACADEMICS!?
CERTAINLY NOT AT AN SEC SCHOOL!
I'm a coach in Memphis ... at the rival school of the one where Freeze coached here. I've posted on here before, addressing unfair statements about the (Barrett) Jones family. By the way, the last (3rd) of the Jones boys (a LB) signed with Alabama today. That's 3 in a row, and I've been blessed to coach them. Considering that, I've gotten to see a lot of Hugh Freeze over the years, and have gotten sick of the lies that the movie created about the whole Michael Oher story.
Hugh Freeze is a charasmatic fellow. He's always been one. He's got an ego; he loves to win ... and will do what it takes to make it happen. Machiavellian. He loves trick plays / smoke and mirrors. He talks a big game, and he gets the best athletes he can find and then enables them to believe they can win. He's had success for that reason.
I don't doubt, though that there are things that are way out of bounds in the recruiting here. I had friends that sat in the classes he used to teach. He flirted with the high school girls, was disloyal to players that didn't perform, humiliated guys that didn't play football, and didn't give a rip about his acadmic responsibilities (and, I don't see reason to doubt the consistency of the statements I heard). There comes a point where you just have to call the kettle black: I just don't think he's a good guy. But, because of his background, he can sure talk like it, and he'll do what it takes to get the athletes. he knows how to get the players, and generally speaking, he's able to produce with them. That's been true of most places he goes. I hate that, because I don't care for him much, and I certainly don't have a stomach for Ole Miss. I'm thankful that we have a coach in Hoke that is the anti- Hugh Freeze.
Thanks for sharing.
Just accusations of a coach who was one of his rivals and has seen him go on to have success. Either provide proof of something he has done, or stop the attempt at innuendo. This is the same kind of stuff thrown at all successful coaches at recruiting, whether it be Lou Holtz or Brian Kelly or Jimmy Johnson or Brady Hoke at Ball State or San Diego State or Bill Snyder at Kansas State....If there is something going on, we will find out sooner or later, until then, you may be entitled to your opinion, but you have yet to provide any verifiable facts to back that opinion up. What do you expect a football coach at a place where there is no tradition since the late 1960's to do, except to sell and sell hard the assets he sees and what he can do in the future?
Per Urban Dictionary -
"Money Talks, Bullshit Walks"
Means that cheap talk will get you nowhere, while money will
persuade people to do as you like.
what goes on at Ole Miss. They have a mess to clean up and until they get their own house taken care of the cheating schools will have a field day. The only good side of this is that 18 and 19 year old kids won't be able to keep their mouths shut or won't know how to keep from showing off their new found fortune.
The NCAA is so demented right now it will be 3 or 4 years before they hammer anyone. Even Miami is going to get off from all I am reading. So Ole Miss is taking the best shot they can at the most opportune time. I can't wait to find out what is going on though.