Lol. I went to make this post and saw 3 others when I refreshed. You're the quickest. Congrats!
This should be interesting I'm curious to see how his offense works in the NFL
Lol. I went to make this post and saw 3 others when I refreshed. You're the quickest. Congrats!
This should be interesting I'm curious to see how his offense works in the NFL
he may have a lazy foot, but his hands and fingers work fine.
So...safe to assume the NCAA may be coming down with some sort of wrist-slapping in the near future?
Or maybe he wanted to be an NFL coach.
I see what you are saying here, and this could very well be the case. It just seems strange to me that he would interview, turn down the job, then take it a week and a half later.
You might be mixing up your Kellies. I think Brian Kelly is the one who interviewed and turned it down, if I'm not mistaken.
Either way, too many damn Kellies running 'round here.
I thought they both did. Chip first, then Brian.
As an NFL gig, Philly is a step up in personnel, organization, and prestige from Cleveland and PROBABLY worth leaving Oregon for.
Ah, well my mistake then. I can understand turning down Cleveland then later accepting the Philly position without needing motivation from the NCAA.
Edit: According to the ESPN article Chip interview w/ Cleveland, Buffalo and Philly before deciding to stay at Oregon. So, suck it. I was right.
I was wrong. I am forever shamed.
Unless he was offered more money.
Or greater say in running the team (personelle decisions).
I was in the midst of making a thread on this myself. One second no threads, next second three threads. At least that adds a little excitement to the NFL next year. Hopefully Oregon doesn't drop off, I think they're good for college ball.
Have you seen what trying to keep up with Oregon has done to our uniforms?
The stain on our uniforms is regretable, no doubt. But aside from poisoning the culture of traditional uniforms, it has been nice to see a program develop into a powerhouse outside of the SEC. Plus, Oregon is fun to watch.
Really don't care about Oregon, but I really hope Kelly fails spectacularly in the NFL.
You give me nightmares.
I forgot what the post was about.
Oh yeah, Oregon, Chip Kelly, Eagles. Interesting, that.
The beauty in this user account is that Gary Busey is batshit crazy enough that you may actually be him, randomly providing knowledge on an internet message board.
I've been told by doctors and surgeons that I have the energy of ten men with regular jobs.
Anyone remember "I'm with Busey" on comedy central? A short lived gem, and I mean that in the truest sense of the word.
I'm not even going to try and embed, but here is a clip from the show of Gary Busey as a relationship counselor/woman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tN_4JsNnkc
I'm very excited to see this experiment.
Kelly to Eagles, while a violation of the Board rules on informative titles, would have been amusing. If only I could post at NDNation...
It will be interesting to see how Kelly's playing style works in the NFL. Out of all the coaches with spread like tendencies out there, I think his method has the best chance of working given how he incorporate passings and the power run.
in three years, will it be with Oregon?
I read your comment as "spread like tentacles" . . . and then realized it didn't really matter.
I wonder if Chip Kelly saw the handwriting on the wall like Pete Carrol did at USC with NCAA sanctions looming.
Mike Vick has to be extremely happy with this hire.
I think it's equally likely that the Eagles saw what the zone read did this past weekend in the NFL playoffs and backed a dumptruck full of money up to Kelly's house, as well as giving him some control over personell.
I just saw a report that said the Jets are looking to trade Sanchez and pursue Vick.
and if you think the Jets will actually be able to trade Sanchez, you might be more bat-shit crazy than Busey
How Pete Carrol of him. So Gruden to Oregon of course.
This will be one coaching search where you can safely expect Gruden's name to NOT come up. I think Oregon will want to stick to the system and so far Helfrich(the O-coordinator) is the name that comes up the most in terms of taking over the head coaching position.
This is something schools will use against ND and PSU in recruiting as long as Brian kelly and Bill O'Brian are there.
And rightly so. Another of the many reasons I sleep well at night with Hoke as our coach. Obvious guy is obvious, but if Harbaugh had been hired we'd all likely be mid-ulcer by now.
Brandon deserves more credit than he gets on this blog for making that most important decision.
Harbaugh would have left us at some point, but I don't think he'd have to go in a way that gave us an ulcer. I assumed he'd come, spend 4 or 5 years here, win a Rose Bowl, declare the program fixed, and move on. Assuming we had Hoke's agent on speed dial or a talented coordinator on staff and ready for promotion, we could have handled it assuming we saw it coming and avoided "The Process 2.0". That said, I'm glad Hoke is our coach. However assuming it was Harbaugh coming here and then doing a somewhat preplanned moved to the Dolphins (the Ross connection), it wouldn't have been terrible.
As for Purple and Yelling Kelly, I think he's done at ND sooner or later. When he interviewed with the Eagles so many Domers were outraged anyone would ever consider leaving South Bend. The ND old guard will nurse that grudge and for for Kelly's throat the moment he has a bad season.
As long as Kelly keeps winning, he is safe.
Bo only looked around one time, after his 13th season here, when Texas A&M offered him a huge raise (at a time when U-M really didn't compensate him all that well - Canham was notoriously cheap). Not that analogous.
because I think Harbaugh would have left after one year. Given he turned us (and Stanford) down, his heart was obviously in the NFL. He would have left as soon as the opportunity presented itself.
If he made it past year two, we'd certainly be sweating right now. And in that scenario, none of us would have any idea Hake was a good coach. Leading to another horrible offseason of angst. That would have been a harsh blow to the program 2 years after RR.
Need to chime in here....
Brandon didnt choose Hoke over Harbaugh... Harbaugh and wife didn't want to leave the SF area. And as much as I like Hoke, I prefer having a prick as coach like Bo or Miles are/were. We'd likely have a Big Ten title by now.
Brandon would have chosen Hoke over Miles.... and I prefer Miles.
So a prick of a coach would have prevented our QB from damaging his ulnar nerve?
But I disagree with your last listed preference.
And never said Brandon chose Hoke over Harbaugh, only that Harbaugh preferred the NFL (which your statement confirms).
As a Redskins fan, I hope he succeeds. Washington finally has a GM that can bring in real talent, and I think if things turn out OK for RGIII, Washingotn will be just fine. I like beating good teams, not doormats. It makes your victories worth something.
As a UM fan, which I presume you are, why in the hell would you want to see the system our biggest rival runs, which we run the opposite of, succeed on the highest level?
They already said their OC would take over if Chip left
Don't worry Oregon fans and recruits, the offensive coordinntor is taking over, everything will be fine.
On the flip side of that I can't wait to see what happens in Philly. It's like they've been assembling Chip Kellys ultimate fantasy team over the years, and now he's the coach. They'll sell out that stadium again in a matter of hours.
Well, Kelly was a little known offensive coordinator at Oregon when Belotti left, so probably shouldn't be too sarcastic at the idea. That said, as a Colorado alum, I've seen Helfrich when he had full control of an offense, and it wasn't pretty.
The Eagles have some weapons to implement his system. Geno Smith will probably be their QB
Maybe. Not a full-time QB but I bet Chip would like to have a package of plays for a guy like that.
from what I can find, Philly has a pick in every round, plus 2 in round 7, and that is before compensatory picks get doled out as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see them take a chance on DR with a later round pick.
Plus, Philly is going to be drafting #4 in the first round as well, I'm curious who Kelly is going to take there.
Dee Milliner. Asomugha and Milliner? Good luck passing on the Eagles.
I'm thinking it is caused by one of two things (or a combo of both):
1) He thinks the NCAA is about to hammer Oregon over their past sins and wants to get out of town first a la Pete Carroll
2) Philly came back with a better offer with more $$ than they had previously offered and he had turned down, more $ than Nike's Knight is willing to pay to keep Kelly in place.
I think it's partly the first, but I really think that he didn't see himself succeeding in Cleveland, but Philly looks like a team ready for him to step in and win.
Is on high tailing it out of town before the posse gets saddled up.
There might be a 2b as well, namely more control in running the Eagles.
So he was actually using his college job as leverage for an NFL deal? Weird, but then, he never has done things by the book.
Good I'm glad he's gone. I started to have ill will towards Oregon after Fisher and Brown flipped. I know the OC will be taking the HC job. I wonder if or how many decide to jet after the news.
I also wondered that. I'd expect we will soon begin hearing about some Oregon recruits starting to look around.
I haven't felt this way about a hire since January of '08. Chip, please don't name GERG DC!
This is going to be really interesting....
Wolverines & Eagles fan here too. I actually think he was my first choice (only other person who could have possibly been first was JOHN Gruden). I love the high risk, high reward hire here. He may fail, but if he succeeds this could be the next Mike Tomlin type hire that sustains them for a long period of success. At the least...the absolute minimum...it will be VERY interesting to tune in on Sundays. This team is going to be so fun to watch (as is/was Oregon). Can't say that about this year's team.
I'm thrilled. I wanted Chip from the start so I'm excited for this! He also probably wants to play Monte Kiffin's defense twice a year.
Oregon is getting hammered with sanctions in the near future. But it will be interesting to see how this works out for the Eagles. Vick's career may have just been revitalized again. Again. And on the plus side, this gives Denard another potential landing spot in the NFL. If he does well at the Senior Bowl and the Combine, I'd figure Kelly would be drooling over the prospect of grabbing Denard.
Hope this helps us land the stud TE from texas.
I think he is a Stanford lean.
I see a major college coaching change. How can this benefit Michigan? (Of course sometimes there can be a downside too, but I'm not seeing it here)
If not Smythe, maybe a possible Pharaoh Brown transfer?
that ship has sailed.
Too bad for Chip he's not getting the younger, pre-incarceration Michael Vick. That M. Vick was a hand-in-glove fit for Kelly's offense. I don't know if the Vick of today could stay healthy. It will be interesting to see if this re-invigorates him at all. Unfortunately, I tend more to doubting it will.
... that doesn't describe the per-jail Vick at all. Or the 2012 Vick, really; it was that one shining season that got everyone engaged.
Given that preference I also doubt he's going for Denard unless he makes a huge splash at the combine and Senior Bowl. If Denard can play RB in the NFL his arm will allow for more gadget plays than usual, but they're still gadgets; can't move the ball down the field consistently like that.
I wonder if he'll go with Foles or Vick. I know Vick has been a turnover machine lately, but that o line has been pretty bad and he got pounded.
Darren Carrington? Chris Seisay?
I wouldn't be upset with Carrington. 6'4 190. That'll do.
Fuckity fuck fuck.
Well at least my Browns didn't have to go out and hire somebody they've fired twice already or something.......
Any recruits we were highly interested in that chose Oregon instead?
and with the 4th overal pick in the draft the Eagles select...denard robinson QB/RB/WR Michigan...ohh chip kelly you slay me
This can't hurt us with TE Durham Smythe considering he's pretty much down to Stanford, Oregon, and us.
True enough, but Stanford has got to be VERY inviting for any TE who envisions himself as NFL material.
It will be interesting to see his offense in the pro's.
...if Oregon's sanctions aren't anything more significant than (really) weak wrist-slaps.
Nike has a TREMENDOUS amount of pull in the NCAA, and they're not about to let their flagship franchise (edit: sorry, "PROGRAM") be compromised to the point where Dr. Knight's laboratory creations are not readily available to the viewing public.
What happened to Ohio is going to look like the Death Penalty compared to anything Oregon gets.
You heard it here first
People always say this, but I don't really follow the reasoning. Nike does business with NCAA schools because...it's a good deal for Nike. What would hammering the Nike poster school do to change that? I don't think Nike would suddenly stop making their good business decisions and throw money out the window just to spite the NCAA for sanctioning Phil Knight's alma mater. And even if they did, the schools would sign with other manufacturers and be fine. If you're the NCAA, where's the threat? I don't see what big leverage Nike has over the NCAA.
This is a different situation than the NCAA being worried about hammering a marquee program because it would make the on-field product less interesting. I don't really buy that argument either, but the Nike thing makes no sense to me at all.
Just last week he was staying at Oregon and now this. I know we don't see all the behind the scenes stuff, but i wonder how his Oregon players feel...
to be a Wolverine living in Oregon. Duck fans are aweful. I can't wait to hear quacks of fear reverberate throughout the Northwest. The timing of this hire is just terrible for Oregon. Let the pillaging of their recruiting class begin!
As another Wolverine living in Duck country, I agree with everything you just said.
of Mike Vick?
With the dual threat QB becoming a norm in the NFL (and it will continue) and the fact that we're seeing read option plays on Sundays with some regularity, Kelly will be the test of the spread making a real jump to the pros. And of all the spread minds, Kelly's is probably the best bet for success.
Or, Philly's taking a huge chance with either being the league innovator and getting at least a few seasons head start or the failure will be laughable.
Chip Kelly is going to be enormously successful with the Eagles.
We can finally has Rose Bowl win? (No, OSU doesn't count ever)
worth the risk if i'm philly.
ESPN's now-formalized write-up on the subject - (LINK)
It will be interesting to see Kelly's methodologies at the NFL level, I think. The up-tempo practices to maximize reps and essentially make the scheme second nature to the player will perhaps help him install schemes relatively quickly, and building the time for learning and reviewing on each end of the practice rather than within it should help with a quick turnaround as well, at least in theory.
One thing that will be neat to see perhaps is the use of pace changes, almost from play-to-play sometimes, as Oregon always seemed just as lethal when they slowed their game down for a play or two and then went back to up-tempo, making them difficult to effectively defend for most teams. With the right personnel and staff, I could see this working rather well actually.
can Tebow effectively run Kelly's offense? I dont know the difference btw the one he ran at Florida, and Kelly's at Oregon.
Slow to run it effectively in the NFL.It's already questionable how effectively the spread and shread can be run in the NFL as a base offense. But if it can be run you'd need more of a burner than Tebow back there.
kelly's offense requires a guy who's primary skill is passing the ball, but can also use his legs if necessary. like rgiii or russell wilson. ipso facto, tebow is not a good fit by any stretch of the imagination.
To see how the Philly fan base reacts. I bet Vick is happy.
To change the tune a bit:
If Kelly left simply because he wanted the opportunity to coach in the NFL, does Oregon hire Rich Rodriguez?
While there would obviously be some baggage with his failures here and the fact that his defense got lit up last year (although they did improve on the year before and their talent level isn't even close to an Oregon level), wouldn't he be the guy that could walk in and pretty much keep things running on the same level? He proved last year he can run a passing spread just fine with Scott, as Arizona really only had two games where they were stopped (Oregon and UCLA) and he's already out there.
Perhaps his three year stretch here would prevent him from getting a look at a top job this soon, but it would seem to be a good fit.
It's been reported for a couple of weeks now that Oregon has tabbed the Offensive Coordinator as Kelly's successor if (when) he bolted for the NFL.
That'd probably work too.
Eh, you've never struck me as a rational or intelligent individual, so I can see how you would allow your bias against Rodriguez to cloud the obvious reasoning behind Oregon potentially hiring him.
Like I said: You aren't intelligent enough to begin to comprehend the thinking, so why even try?
Rodriguez would be a seamless transition on the offensive side of the ball.
On the defensive side of the ball, for the first time since Michigan 2008, he'd actually have a high caliber of personnel - and please, continue to pretend that Casteel didn't have a good defense over and over again at WVU - only with the offensive firepower to back it up.
He just demonstrated his offensive prowess in the same conference with a bunch of 2 and 3 star recruits.
And, he'd be a much better fit at Oregon, which would embrace him, than he was at Michigan, where people disliked him or didn't trust him from the beginning.
This will be interesting. Kelly knows that he has a lot of eyes on him and his spread offense, and how it may or may not translate to the NFL. I'm excited to see if it will work. Not sure how the fans in Philly will react, but it'll give them plenty to talk about in the offseason and training camp.
Good luck to Kelly's successor. He'll have plenty of talent to work with. I don't think they will drop off a whole lot, if at all.
Does this mean the Eagles draft Denard?
boy o boy I hope so. I have started trending away from purchasing jersies recently but as a wolverines & eagles fan I would snatch that up right away
are already telling me Urban is going to pick up all of thier good players.
He'll modify it to work. He's going to need better players, so he better show he can draft, because you can't pay anyone to recruit for you.