I hate this world.
OT- Chechen Bombers' Sister Speaks from Jersey
So it goes.
I often find myself wondering what Kilgore Trout would have to say about these terror attacks that target innocent lives.
So it goes.
The reporters there were awful. The uncle came across well despite being asked borderline offensive questions in a combative manner.
The kid I felt bad for is the guy (or one of the handful of guys) who got mis-identified as the terrorist. Apparently, this 17 year old kid, Salah Barhoun, showed up with his running gear and stuff in a gym bag at the marathon since he thought he could just sign-up and run on the day of. He ended up watching for a bit then leaving early and then all of a sudden his FB started to blow up with people blaming him for this. He also ended-up on the front cover of the NY Post with his face circled in red and ID'ed as the terrorist.
What about that Sunil kid who disappeared a few weeks ago? I saw stories insinuating that he was connected because he has a hard-to-spell name and is about their age. The poor kid is probably in serious trouble himself (you'd have to imagine he ran away from his life, had an accident or, more likely, committed suicide) and the media goes on desecrating his name and his family.
Totally awful for his parents. He's disappeared, now suddenly he's a terrorist. Whoops, nope, he's not.
Hopefully they slept through it.
Perhaps MLaw06 can advise Salah on a good lawyer and sue the NY Post.
Those were my thoughts... yeah, it sucks to be him, but a good lawyer could likely get lost wages as damages for a lifetime of missed work opportunities thanks to this, in addition to emotional damages (sorry if I'm butchering the legal jargon). And it's not like the NY Post doesn't have the money to settle something like that.
I don't think the lost wages thing would hold up. You'd have to prove that he has actually lost out on something. It'd be like him not getting into school or a job and in the course of conversation mentioning this incident. Even then you'd still need more causation. He could probably get a decent settlment though from any decent lawyer though.
For the 8 year old and all the other victims of these two pieces of garbage.
the Saudi victim who was, according to media reports (CBS and the like), chased down and tackled by a bystander before having his name blasted as a suspect. Imagine being a victim of this bombing, wounded and in a complete state of shock, trying to run away, to have some jackass chase you down and tackle you. He's still in the hospital, and as of yesterday was still being smeared throughout the web by conspiracy theorists and pundits (Michael Savage in particular) as behind this attack.
says they were set up. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/19/boston-mit-police-dead-watertown
because whenever I'm setup, the next thing I logically do is
- Rob a 7-11
- Shoot a police officer
- Steal a car; take the owner hostage
- Drive the owner around town and withdraw a lot of his money from ATMs
- Flee from police throughout town while shooting and throwing IEDs at police
Leave to the Man to hold a guy down
The Illuminati would want you to think they said that...
In the dad's defense, he still lives in Chechnya, an extremely corrupt part of Russia.
Anyone else think there's a chance that they're possibly being framed? Not a conspiracy theorist in the least but this situation just seems bizarre to me.....
Even if they were framed, they're obvoiusly still freakin insane because they're shooting cops and throwing IEDs around town
Are you serious?
This fires me up.
We need to stop looking for conspiracies. I am, by no means, saying dont question our government. But if you actively seek a conspiracy, you will ultimately find a reason for one.
The horrific acts need to be taken at face value. Terrible people doing terrible things.
I think Occam's Razor applies to most conspiracy theories.
Yeah, I agree it's a bizarre situation...
....because they caused it to be a bizarre situation. You really think the government would set up this complicated of a scenario? Please. I think you're giving the government's abilities little too much credit
I am a conspiracy theorist and I think this is actually just to crazy guys killing people...
This instance actual highlights how absurd Newtown and Aurora were in the nice quick clean wrap-up; real life events are much more messy...
.....this is just offensively stupid.
I thought I made a good point...
so be it.
This statement is an absolute slap in the face to so many good people. If anything was ever worth a ban...
aren't appropriate material to post on MGoBlog. There are thousands of other places better for a discussion like that, I suggest you try one of those forums. Return from exile in one month.
There are few things in this world I loathe more than conspiracy theorists. Look if you wanna believe Obama is a Kenyian born Muslim hell bent on destroying America, fine that doesn't really hurt anybody. But 9/11 truthers and people claming atrocities like this government conspracies piss me off to no end.
Wait wait wait...
You think Aurora and Newtown are conspiracies? Are you REALLY that stupid?
You probably think 9/11, VT, and Columbine are government plots too don't you.
Go put tin foil on your dunce hat and sit in the corner.
You serious Clark?
There's video of them dropping off their bags and then walking away. That's why the FBI fingered them, and not just anyone that was brown with a backpack like 4chan and the New York Post did.
Plus they found explosives on the dead bomber.
That's just what the government WANTS you to know though. What they DON'T want us to know is that FBI agents actually gave these random guys on the street backpacks, and told them to drop them on the sidewalks in certain places. Why would the FBI instruct them to do this? So that, in the aftermath of the event, they could track the "bad guys" down, all while building up public distrust in Chechnya. After capturing or killing the second brother, they will then declare that Chechnya has attacked the United States, and we will formally declare war on the Chechnyans. America will be behind this, because of the suddenness of the circumstances. We will invade Chechnya, which will inevitably draw the Russians into the fight, which is what the FBI wants anyway, so we will finally be able to conquer Russia and tap into their vast oil resources, and then we'll be like "Forget you China, we've added Russia's nukes to our arsenal and we're coming for you next." So we'll attack China, obliterate them, and then have complete control of the world, since we'll also nuke North Korea on the way.
So you see? It's all very simple. It's all for oil and power and nukes and George Bush probably had something to do with it. Plus, you can't disprove anything I just said.
Because real life doesn't work like movies?
What's weird is how the older brother died. He was told to undress when police cornered him, due to fear of him having a bomb strapped to his body.
That's the report I heard. But with all the false reports I could be wrong. Fill me in?
Where did you hear that from?
Last night on CNN.
Yeah and the homeless man who sleeps in the alleyway behind my apartment told me this is the Rapture. I'd believe him before CNN at this point.
Very true. I have been flipping through stations trying to see what gets repeated. I just wanted clarification.
I knew it was hard to believe, that's why I mentioned it. I am not a conspiracy guy. I do my research before jumping to conclusions.
I think the guy ordered to strip and the older brother were two different people.
Older brother was either run over by the car or had multiple gunshot wounds (depending on the report) and died fairly quickly. Doesn't seem like someone who's going to be able to strip down.
My understanding was he got out of SUV and went towards the cops and was shot down. The younger brother then backed over his body trying to get out of there.
From what I think I understand (among all of the different reports), the man who was ordered to strip down was actually the carjacking victim/hostage.
It seems the cops were worried about explosive devices after the older brother was found to have them strapped to his chest after he died.
Attempted shooting at MIT?
Attempted robbery at 7-11?
Framed for those too?!
[redacted] see above
I understand peoiple want to talk about the tragedy and it definitely has taken on a Michael Bay/Jerry Bruckheimer vibe, but maybe MGoBlog isn't the best resource. These posts are veering dangerously toward politics and racial/national discussions that, frankly, never lead to anything positive. Just my two cents, but maybe create one thread and talk about it there if you must, but there are myriad other resources and avenues for these discussions beyond a sports blog.
I could go elsewhere, but you know who is elsewhere? ME EITHER. I think I will stay here and talk to michigan wolverines - people I like and people I trust...
seriously, we call the board a community for a reason.
There are many MGoBloggers on the east coast so this is relevant for our community.
That being said, if we land Jabrill Peppers today, I'm sure that thread and all of the muppet threads will push the OT threads to the bottom of the list!
Discussion will stay until I hear otherwise or it gets way off the rails. We've only had a few incidents so far, so hopefully it stays relatively tame.
I sympathize with your point, but I feel like this is a once in a decade/generation event that is unfolding. Just in terms of how the media covers such events, I feel like we are witnessing a paradigm shift unfold live. While I would tend to agree with you if this were nearly any other topic, this is something we will likely not see happen in this kind of fashion for a long time. I agree with jdon that this is something I want to discuss with intelligent people in an intelligent forum.
Nonetheless, if this thing goes off the rails into a discussion about the President, race/ethnicity, religious affiliation, etc., then we may have to pull the plug and I will humbly admit that I apparently think too highly of this group.
In what regard? Unless you meant something else...
I know we have had multiple major domestic and international terrorist attacks, manhunts, etc. in the past several decades, but doesn't this seem particularly unique? The fact that I tried watching cable news, and instead found myself ignoring it as background fodder while I followed the event in much more vivid detail via Twitter alone makes this event unique. One of the largest cities in the US is on lockdown during a business day. A suspected international terrorist is riddling a city with bombs as police chase after him, with possibly more suspects involved.
I am a young-ish man, but has anything this bizarre happened since even the inception of MGoBlog? I don't mean as horrific, tragic, bloody or some other measure, but in terms of the oddity and unconventionality of this event. Maybe my young mind is just too ignorant and this is some common event, but I tend to think this is something people will remember for a long time.
I hope this is a once-in-a-decade/generation type of event, but I'm afraid it's probably going to happen more often than that now that it's so easy to travel and communicate across the world. Jihadis and disgruntled nationalists are taking advantage of the internet, too.
It's certainly a big story, though.
What was very interesting (and the news people reporting it didn't pick up on it) was he said he talked to his sons right after the bombing, and he asked them if they had anything to do with it - to which they said no. Why would that topic or question even come up if the father didn't have some suspicion his sons were capable of doing the bombing? Kind of strange too that the father supposedly returned to Russia "for health reasons". Say what?
Haha she's nuts.
No one seems to know the 2 bombers really well...not even family, obviously. The FBI isn't just going after you for no reason. Trust them, they know a lot more than you.
I worked 13 hours yesterday so i didn't get to watch the news. I saw the video and pictures that the FBI posted of what looked to be two Caucasian males that where the main suspects...but on twitter they said 2 middle eastern looking ppl in the shoot out so are they the ones for the bombing, and where the 2 white males that the FBI posted innocent or have some type of role?
I think the confusion came from people reporting them as "middle eastern" because of their "non-white," by American standards, skin tone and features, but technically they are Caucasian if they are Chechen. So, media outlets were accurately reporting two Caucasian males, but the public who saw photos and videos were identifying them as middle eastern. Then again, I could be way off so take that as a crappy answer.
Hey we'll at least you tried givin me an answer your the only one
OT from this thread but Drake's dad will be on the radio for the interview in about 50 minutes.
I think they all waived the right to say CONSPIRACY! when the two kids went on a grand theft auto joyride through Boston last night. This can't possibly even be debatable at this point
As a Muslim, I just want to say sorry even though these guys are psychopathic nutjobs who killed innocent people (including an 8 year old) and have no respect for their faith although they would claim otherwise. Even though they are psychopaths that no Muslim should or would defend, I still feel the need to apologize to make it clear that these animals that attacked innocent people, who were just tryna race, are assholes.