OT: Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports Says More to Come

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OT: Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports Says More to Come

Charles Robinson, one of the investigative reporters for Yahoo! Sports, was just interviewed on the Waddle and Silvie show on ESPN Radio 1000 in Chicago.  He stated that there are two additional high-profile stories he is working on, on which will break within the next few weeks and another that looks like it will break in August.  Mr. Robinson was prodded fairly hard by Tom Waddle, but would not divulge any individual or institutional names.  He was asked to rate the Tressel story on a scale of 1-10 scale, and gave it an 8.  Mr. Robinson rated the story to be broken this month as a 6-7, and gave the late-summer story a 10-rating, without hesitation. 

This ends any seculation that this was the "big one," even though most of us thought that already.  And the plot thickens.....

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March 9th, 2011 at 12:30 PM | Lot of corruption going on (Score:1)
ixcuincle
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Lot of corruption going on around college sports.

Should be interesting to see who these mystery teams are.

March 9th, 2011 at 12:31 PM | Hello edge of seat. (Score:1)
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Hello edge of seat.

Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.

March 9th, 2011 at 12:38 PM | Nice Name (Score:1)
Baldbill
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I have always loved that quote by Socrates.

Semper Fidelis

March 9th, 2011 at 3:08 PM | "Nosce te ipsum" is Latin. Socrates was Greek. And anyway, (Score:1)
dnak438
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it's not a quote of Socrates.  It's a (Latin translation) of one of the Greek Delphic maxims, which were traditional proverbs. Sometimes they were attributed to ancient sages, but not Socrates.

March 9th, 2011 at 3:26 PM | BOOM (Score:1)
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BOOM

Abort, Retry, Fail?

March 9th, 2011 at 4:11 PM | I don't know jack about latin or greek (Score:1)
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but isn't it possible the greeks said it first? Wasn't greek communicated first? Then the latino's (lol) translated it into latin later?

Just causin' trouble...

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March 9th, 2011 at 5:58 PM | Yeah, sorry if my response wasn't clear. (Score:1)
dnak438
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"Know thyself" was a Greek proverb (γνῶθι σεαυτόν) that was associated with the oracle at Delphi.  It's impossible to date it precisely, but let's say 700 BC (or so).  Rome is just a village at that point.  So the Latin translation (nosce te ipsum) would be a later translation of the original Greek (I'm not sure when it is first attested in Latin, but I'd guess around the 1st century BC, so half a millennium later).

Socrates talked about the maxim a lot, mostly because his whole deal was that he knew nothing but at least he knew that he knew nothing (as opposed to the "experts" who knew nothing but didn't realize it).

March 10th, 2011 at 11:23 PM | First of all, Socrates was a (Score:1)
UMdad
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First of all, Socrates was a character in the writings of Plato, not an actual person, and secondly, that character was the ultimate humble bragger. 

March 10th, 2011 at 11:52 PM | Nope, Socrates was definitely a real person. (Score:1)
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He's not a character. He appears in the writings of Xenophon. And Aristophanes. And Callias, Eupolis, and other comedic authors, all of whom were his contemporaries. 

March 9th, 2011 at 2:00 PM | Couldn't have said it better (Score:1)
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Couldn't have said it better myself.  This is what it's going to take to get me through this off-season, and it's working well.

March 9th, 2011 at 12:32 PM | Heard that too (Score:1)
Blue_Sox
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I can't even fathom what the level 10 story will be. But given that Tressel is an 8, that is going to be a pretty big bombshell.

March 9th, 2011 at 12:38 PM | wonder if has anything to do (Score:1)
Michigania
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wonder if has anything to do with urban meyer

BSME '93 - 5 Big Ten football titles with Bo and Mo, NCAA hoops title, Fab Five as senior..... what a run.

March 9th, 2011 at 1:59 PM | I bet it involves a school in (Score:1)
coldnjl
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I bet it involves a school in Alabama...Should be obvious

March 9th, 2011 at 2:48 PM | Or both schools in Alabama. (Score:1)
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Or both schools in Alabama.

March 10th, 2011 at 9:16 PM | Or One in SC (Score:1)
maizeandblue21
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CLEMSON did you see the recruits they got this year and they suck all the time

But sir, but sir, BUT NOTHING

March 9th, 2011 at 4:15 PM | I would guess another major (Score:1)
08mms
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I would guess another major program and very explicit ties with boosters.  Or another Colorado-style brothel scandal.

March 9th, 2011 at 12:32 PM | I nominate the first person who asks... (Score:1)
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...if it's possible if Michigan is one of the two upcoming stories for a banhammer to end all banhammers (if we could actually banhammer someone).

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March 9th, 2011 at 1:07 PM | Umm, so I have this friend, (Score:1)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Umm, so I have this friend, and, ah, he wants to know if its possible that Michigan is one the two umcoming stories.  Let me know, so I can tell my friend.  He's really worried about it.

March 9th, 2011 at 1:21 PM | Tell your friend the following (Score:1)
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When we find out one of our players was somewhat linked to a drug deal in Florida, we kick him out. When we find out one of our recruits high school education took place at Chuck-E-Cheese, we don't let him in. When our 1A QB hsn't been going to class enough, we don't let him travel for the bowl game. We recruit hard but lose out on most of our biggest names.

When a school does these things, the kind of violations you're going to find against them are, "They stretch too much and have coaches present sometimes" type things.

When a story is a "10", it will NOT involve stretching. It WILL involve the coach, the star QB, the AD and 10 5-star recruits doing blow off of an underage hooker's butt.

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
March 9th, 2011 at 1:58 PM | and when a newspaper makes a (Score:1)
double blue
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and when a newspaper makes a mountain out of a mole hill we open up the komono completely and let the ncaa throughly examine every orifice.

although i was confident we wouldnever get nailed for anything "meaningful" prior to practicegate i am even more so now due to the manner in which the university handled it.

March 9th, 2011 at 1:58 PM | I think you're being a bit (Score:1)
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I think you're being a bit too hard on Chucky Cheese.  

March 9th, 2011 at 1:31 PM | If we were recruiting players (Score:1)
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If we were recruiting players with cash we'd have a lot more talented team right now. I'm not worried in the least.

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March 9th, 2011 at 12:33 PM | story breaking in late August (Score:1)
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must be waiting to see what pre-season rankings finally settle to.

March 9th, 2011 at 12:36 PM | Get your popcorn (Score:1)
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March 9th, 2011 at 2:52 PM | can't wait (Score:1)
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ALL ABOARD THE A-TRAIN!!!!!

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March 9th, 2011 at 12:37 PM | Why Wait? (Score:1)
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What would be the point of waiting that long to divulge pertinent information? Either way, I am glad to see things begining to be cleaned up. Now about all of that over-signing.....

Florida Wolverines have dreadlocks...

March 9th, 2011 at 12:41 PM | He said that they still have (Score:1)
Blue_Sox
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He said that they still have work to on the story to gather more information and get their ducks in a row. As good journalist's should do.

March 9th, 2011 at 12:42 PM | Michael Rosenberg says, (Score:1)
ldoublee
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Michael Rosenberg says, "What?"

March 9th, 2011 at 4:32 PM | And then he says . . . (Score:1)
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I'm waiting until August to inflict maximum damage on the program -- and for an extra bonus, I can also sandbag a few incoming freshmen by misleadingly quoting their innocuous answers to loaded questions!  That's how we do real journalism, Yahoo!

March 9th, 2011 at 12:43 PM | "Ducks" in a Row (Score:1)
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Pun intended?  Nice.

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March 9th, 2011 at 1:00 PM | Agreed (Score:1)
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My first thought was perhaps the "10" story is an extension of the recruiting service investigation the NCAA has launched into Oregon.  I don't particularly mind Oregon.  A large part of me hopes the big story is about OSU or [fill in the blank SEC team].

March 9th, 2011 at 1:07 PM | I don't mind Vanderbilt, (Score:1)
ThatOneGuy
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I don't mind Vanderbilt, theyr're the only SEC team that is decent.

March 9th, 2011 at 2:06 PM | Thanks. (Score:1)
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Much appreciated.

March 9th, 2011 at 1:03 PM | Crap (Score:1)
Blue_Sox
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I guess you now know that I am Charles Robinson. Guess I'm no good journalist after all.

March 9th, 2011 at 12:37 PM | One problem with the whole (Score:1)
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One problem with the whole "BIG" story thing is that the News Media typically make a much larger deal out of the situation than the NCAA has.  I would have thought the whole USC thing would have held a much larger penalty than was given.  I also thought the whole Cam Newton thing was overdone in the media only to have the NCAA blow it off.  For some reason the NCAA only addresses those things which they find easy to prove.  One thing I have learned from watching the NCAA is to deny deny deny, and then deny some more.  They often approve of that behavior.

March 9th, 2011 at 12:44 PM | Very good point (Score:1)
profitgoblue
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You raise a very good point.  Responses to NCAA violations have become more akin to responses to criminal charges.  By denying everything and placing the burden on the NCAA to prove things, schools are likely escaping serious penalties.  That said, I think that "defense" is going to catch up to a school eventually.  For example, if OSU and USC escape serious punishment, they will get hammered if something arises during their probationary period, maybe moreso than another school that took a different approach to charges (e.g. Michigan)

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March 9th, 2011 at 1:44 PM | I don't think the NCAA is (Score:1)
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I don't think the NCAA is done with Auburn and Cam Newton.  The reason why Cam Newton was cleared to play so easily is because the NCAA makes a ruling based on information given to them by the school.  That means he was cleared based on information provided by Auburn, not by information the NCAA found by actually investigating.  If nothing ends up happening to Auburn with the Cam Newton and more serious corruption charges the NCAA is a joke.

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March 9th, 2011 at 2:03 PM | This is different though (Score:1)
Genzilla
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The Tressel cover-up in this case is very easy to prove, because it is in writing.  With Cam Newton there was no proof that Auburn or Cam were involved because the only solid proof was between Cam's father and a MissU booster.  With USC, they could only prove that Reggie and one assistant had knowledge.

With this controversy, there is already proof out there that the coach had a knowledge of this information.  The most incriminating evidence is already out there.  I'd expect paper-shredding and hard-drive rewrites in Columbus over the coming weeks in anticipation of a possible NCAA investigation.

March 9th, 2011 at 12:43 PM | I propose a game, then, called (Score:1)
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FUTURE COLUMBUS
DISPATCH HEADLINES!

 

I'll go first:

"EVIDENCE EXPOSES JIM TRESSEL AS THE PIMP KING OF C-BUS"

"BUCKEYE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT EXPOSED AS THE MOST MASSIVE MONEY LAUNDERING NETWORK SINCE THE PICCOLO FAMILY"

"TERRELLE PRYOR HAS NEVER ATTENDED A SINGLE CLASS AT tOSU; HIS IQ SCORE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN REDUCED 34% SINCE ARRIVING ON CAMPUS"

"DANE SANZENBACHER RECEIVING INDEPENDENT STUDY COURSES TO LEARN HOW TO SPELL SANZENBACHER"

"OHIO STATE FOOTBALL TEAM CONSIDERING PLAYERS STRIKE TO HOLD OUT FOR BETTER SALARIES AND RETIREMENT BENEFITS"

"MASSIVE SURPLUS OF DRY GOODS AND LASAGNA ON CAMPUS SINCE JUSTIN BOREN LEFT FOR NFL DRAFT"

Who's next?

March 9th, 2011 at 1:05 PM | Katzenmoyer (Score:1)
BiSB
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"ANDY KATZENMOYER REGAINS ELIGIBILITY BY EARNING 2.0 GPA IN CLASS LOAD CONSISTING OF MUSIC, GOLF, AND AIDS AWARENESS"

Wait... shit, that one was real???

They no longer call me Bisbiño

March 9th, 2011 at 3:01 PM | Hey, don't hate on my music classes! (Score:1)
BlueDragon
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Try taking Advanced Tonal Analysis at the U-M School of Music sometime.  It's the single hardest academic class I've ever taken in my life.  Bar none.

(Of course, OSU's music department sucks balls, so you're probably right anyways.  Carry on.)

Abort, Retry, Fail?

March 9th, 2011 at 1:16 PM | "DANE SANZENBACHER RECEIVING (Score:1)
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"DANE SANZENBACHER RECEIVING INDEPENDENT STUDY COURSES TO LEARN HOW TO SPELL SANZENBACHER"

Totally reasonable class. I heard Evan Smotrcyz(?) is actually planning a paper on that for his graduate thesis.

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
March 9th, 2011 at 3:28 PM | a few (Score:1)
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"OSU BOOSTER SIDES WITH OWNERS: "PLAYERS EXPECT TOO MUCH MONEY THESE DAYS.  I CAN ONLY AFFORD TO PAY NEW RECRUITS SO MUCH WITHOUT GOING BROKE"

"TRESSEL: 'MY PLAYERS ARE LIKE KIDS TO ME, AND THAT IS WHY I GIVE THEM A WEEKLY ALLOWANCE'"

"PRYOR DEFENDS COACH: "EVERYBODY LIES TO THE NCAA WHEN THEY FIND OUT ABOUT THEIR PLAYERS DOING BAD SH*T'"

 

March 9th, 2011 at 12:42 PM | Can someone (Score:1)
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link me to the article, or give a synopsis of the article that talks about this big deal program thing.  I have heard rumblings on here, but feel that I'm living under a rock and missed a lot of it. Thanks in advance. 

As a motivation to the avatar that links, I promise a fancy plus 1 to you. And, although it won't mean anything, you'll know that you earned that pointless +1, and noone can take that away (besides the fact that someone can technically take it away with a down vote).

"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest." -Mark Twain


 

March 9th, 2011 at 12:53 PM | I am glad that Yahoo at least (Score:1)
UMICH1606
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I am glad that Yahoo at least gives a damn to try and do their part to try and clean this stuff up. Since the NCAA could obviously give a damn about doing it on their own, I am hoping that the more programs that Yahoo drags through the mud, the more the NCAA will start to care and police this on their own.

March 9th, 2011 at 12:54 PM | My thoughts? (Score:1)
BiSB
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They no longer call me Bisbiño

March 9th, 2011 at 1:25 PM | lol...I think I was that same (Score:1)
LusciousSweet
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lol...I think I was that same kid

I hate Sharties with a passion

March 9th, 2011 at 1:25 PM | This just in (Score:1)
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Bielma is a dick

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March 9th, 2011 at 2:08 PM | I'd love that to be true, but (Score:1)
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I'd love that to be true, but I don't know if Sparty is that dirty.  They have a lot of criminals who beat up innocents...true. Dantonio shuttles them from prison to practice...true.  Dantonio is a mini-Tressel in making up excuses for violating standards of decency (i.e. driving players from prison to practice).  Dantonio is a piece of shit who starts verbal fueds with Michigan student -athletes (and then complains about Michigan kids talking trash in return...sidenote...that's quite an Izzo parallel).  But, I don't know that they've broken major rules.

March 9th, 2011 at 1:23 PM | were these statements made (Score:1)
CB2009
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were these statements made implying that they were about OSU

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