MaximusBlue

February 1st, 2014 at 7:42 PM ^

Never. I don't think coaches have a certain quota of 5* players they would except, and then start turning other 5* players away because they reached said quota.

Eskabeaner

February 1st, 2014 at 7:50 PM ^

While stars are bright and shiny and fun for fans like you and me to look at, they are truly irrelevant.  I'm quite certain Hoke could care less how many stars his recruits have.  I'm sure there are a multitude of 5 stars with entitlement issues who show up not wanting to work, but there are, I'm sure, just as many who show up ready to bust their butts to earn the playing time.  It's up to the coaches to weed out the bad apples.  As such, no, I do not think you can have too many 5 stars.  It just depends on what 5 star you're recruiting.  it's about the kids, not the ratings.  Find the right kids, and coach them up, and you won't have any problems.  I think this staff is pretty good at finding the right kids.

GRBluefan

February 1st, 2014 at 8:13 PM ^

Depends on the makeup of the specific kids. If you have all entitled, high maintenance 5 stars that us bad. If you have humble, hardworking 5 stars that is good. There is no generalization to be made here.

Rodriguesqe

February 1st, 2014 at 8:13 PM ^

you would certainly rather have the recruit be a diamand in the rough three star if he's still the same talent. probably alot of truth in aj's words, though i doubt any team creates a star cap anytime soon.

i heard beliema on the radio today talking recruiting and stars. as you can imagine if you know recruiting, he's not too preoccupied with them. and though its always fun to get the "it" recruite, i try to appreciate the less heralded recruites. the coaching staff should be better talent evaluaters than the services. 

Inuyesta

February 1st, 2014 at 8:32 PM ^

Well, theoretically, if you landed like 5 5* CBs or something and didn't have enough scholarships left over to sign guys at a different position of need, that'd be a way to have too many 5*s

 

But, yeah, the answer to this question is no.

bronxblue

February 1st, 2014 at 8:46 PM ^

I think 5* talent should never be shunned; you just can't have too many 5* a-holes around.  At some point, no matter how strong a leader you have as a coach, you'll run into problems if half the guys on the team think they should be starting but don't want to work to get there.

xxxxNateDaGreat

February 1st, 2014 at 8:56 PM ^

Uh, noooo... It's a problem with the culture of recruiting and high school hero syndrome more than the numbers crunch. 5 stars may be a bit more prone to it, but it doesn't really change the reason(s) why they are five stars and isn't the sole reason why some of them flame out.

GoBLUinTX

February 1st, 2014 at 8:58 PM ^

Sounds like a question for a group of kids in an AT&T commerical.

While AJ makes a good point about players having an entitlement mentality, I imagine there can also be an entitlement problem with the coaching staff.  Being human themselves, there will doubtless be coaches who tend to replace coaching with stars.

But the answer remains no, you can not have too much of a good thing.  It always boils down to what you do with what you have.

AlwaysBlue

February 1st, 2014 at 9:06 PM ^

if the stars are all your offer is based on. I like the profile Beilein looks for. It includes things like desire to unpack their bags in Ann Arbor, basketball IQ and how coachable a kid is.

Bocheezu

February 1st, 2014 at 9:19 PM ^

The only problem you would run into is when the ones on the bench get pissed off and transfer; one injury to a starter leaves no one to play because there's no depth.  This is the sort of thing I worry about with our OL and the haul we had in 2013; in a scenario where Bosch beats out Dawson and Kalis stays the starter, does Dawson sit on the bench for 3 years?  It's not beyond the realm of possibility that he doesn't.  Then you're one Bosch/Kalis injury from some lower-rated guy having to play.  This isn't an issue if you oversign; you've already signed another OL for 2014 expecting the transfer to happen, and if it doesn't, oh well, give somebody a medical hardship to get down to 85.

That said, both FSU and Alabama had 3-stars fill out about 1/3rd of their starting lineups.

Wolverine91

February 1st, 2014 at 10:09 PM ^

I was just reading an article on detnews about Malik McDowell and how he really likes msu and it's party atmosphere...I was a little nervous reading that. I think this kid is goin to msu, sadly.

Magnum P.I.

February 1st, 2014 at 10:44 PM ^

Guys with an entitled attitude will poison a team culture, which is incredibly important for success. I'm convinced that culture was 60% of our problem last season.

ilah17

February 1st, 2014 at 11:03 PM ^

I agree. I think someone here or on wtka wondered if having 4/5 star players was hurting Coach Hoke. Like, he's used to getting 3 and lower and coaching them up, so he doesn't know how to handle these high-star players. I don't know if I think it's true but it was food for thought.

MGoStrength

February 1st, 2014 at 11:52 PM ^

But, I do think you can have too many 5-star QBs.  If you already have one, you really don't want another in the same year or maybe even the next year.  It may be better to seperate them by a few years IMO.  Quaterbacking is so mental, I don't think QB controversies are good for anyone.

Danwillhor

February 2nd, 2014 at 2:06 AM ^

If they have no ego and know they are fighting dirty playing time with other 5ers, no. Yet, as we noticed at USC even with Carroll before bolting, it can eventually have an odd backfire. I think all title teams need to be about 40% kids that were heavily recruited (high 3-5 star types), 10% scrappy kids with a chip on their shoulder (not heavily recruited or at all, lacking the crazy athleticism of the others but the types that go on to be coaches) and 50% great coach/staff. Coaching in CFB, more than any sport, determines winning. A great coach can win with less, a bad couch can be given a team of blue chips and flunk.