Its up to the coaching staff to knock the chips off these guys shoulders and get em to work
OT: Can you have too many 5 stars?
So AJ McCarron is of the mindset that many players that are top rated come in and don't believe that they need to work. Do you guys think it is a problem having too many?
No. This is akin to can you have too much money.
I was going to say pretty much the same exact thing when I saw this post.
Sometimes when people have too much money they give it away.
And many 5 stars are 5 stars because they have strong work ethics.
Never. I don't think coaches have a certain quota of 5* players they would except, and then start turning other 5* players away because they reached said quota.
I don't think I've ever seen a future backup QB talk as much as AJ has
It begs the question - why is too much good bad?
You did there.
While stars are bright and shiny and fun for fans like you and me to look at, they are truly irrelevant. I'm quite certain Hoke could care less how many stars his recruits have. I'm sure there are a multitude of 5 stars with entitlement issues who show up not wanting to work, but there are, I'm sure, just as many who show up ready to bust their butts to earn the playing time. It's up to the coaches to weed out the bad apples. As such, no, I do not think you can have too many 5 stars. It just depends on what 5 star you're recruiting. it's about the kids, not the ratings. Find the right kids, and coach them up, and you won't have any problems. I think this staff is pretty good at finding the right kids.
I don't actually believe that. I just thought someone should say it.
There are only 85 scholarship spots. Since 5 stars would all be on scholarship, if you have 86 you have too many.
I'm sure Saban could convince a 5 star to walk on.
You guys aren't really understanding this post at all
Depends on the makeup of the specific kids. If you have all entitled, high maintenance 5 stars that us bad. If you have humble, hardworking 5 stars that is good. There is no generalization to be made here.
Yes, if you take so many that you go over the scholarship limits... oh wait, nevermind.
you would certainly rather have the recruit be a diamand in the rough three star if he's still the same talent. probably alot of truth in aj's words, though i doubt any team creates a star cap anytime soon.
i heard beliema on the radio today talking recruiting and stars. as you can imagine if you know recruiting, he's not too preoccupied with them. and though its always fun to get the "it" recruite, i try to appreciate the less heralded recruites. the coaching staff should be better talent evaluaters than the services.
You can't ever have enough.
Well, theoretically, if you landed like 5 5* CBs or something and didn't have enough scholarships left over to sign guys at a different position of need, that'd be a way to have too many 5*s
But, yeah, the answer to this question is no.
The more the better! Recruiting champs!
And that's assuming that your roster is 90% five-stars.
I don't think it would be a problem in reality.
I think 5* talent should never be shunned; you just can't have too many 5* a-holes around. At some point, no matter how strong a leader you have as a coach, you'll run into problems if half the guys on the team think they should be starting but don't want to work to get there.
It's a problem with the culture of recruiting and high school hero syndrome more than the numbers crunch. 5 stars may be a bit more prone to it, but it doesn't really change the reason(s) why they are five stars and isn't the sole reason why some of them flame out.
if the stars are all your offer is based on. I like the profile Beilein looks for. It includes things like desire to unpack their bags in Ann Arbor, basketball IQ and how coachable a kid is.
The only problem you would run into is when the ones on the bench get pissed off and transfer; one injury to a starter leaves no one to play because there's no depth. This is the sort of thing I worry about with our OL and the haul we had in 2013; in a scenario where Bosch beats out Dawson and Kalis stays the starter, does Dawson sit on the bench for 3 years? It's not beyond the realm of possibility that he doesn't. Then you're one Bosch/Kalis injury from some lower-rated guy having to play. This isn't an issue if you oversign; you've already signed another OL for 2014 expecting the transfer to happen, and if it doesn't, oh well, give somebody a medical hardship to get down to 85.
That said, both FSU and Alabama had 3-stars fill out about 1/3rd of their starting lineups.
But we are an awful long way from testing this proposition. What the kids today call a "first world problem."
I was just reading an article on detnews about Malik McDowell and how he really likes msu and it's party atmosphere...I was a little nervous reading that. I think this kid is goin to msu, sadly.
5star d1 guys are ranked that high for a reason....they have the talent and they have put in the work to be in this position. End of story....
yes but you are no longer a recruit when u get on campus and you have to work to get on the field and all don't do that.
That's why certain programs attempt to weed out or just simply not recruit guys that may pose this risk.
And certain programs attract it more than others...intentionally.
Not all five stars put in a lot of work, some have been naturally gifted with size and strength that makes them elite for a high schooler. This can be especially true for those that play on the line.
Guys with an entitled attitude will poison a team culture, which is incredibly important for success. I'm convinced that culture was 60% of our problem last season.
I agree. I think someone here or on wtka wondered if having 4/5 star players was hurting Coach Hoke. Like, he's used to getting 3 and lower and coaching them up, so he doesn't know how to handle these high-star players. I don't know if I think it's true but it was food for thought.
But, I do think you can have too many 5-star QBs. If you already have one, you really don't want another in the same year or maybe even the next year. It may be better to seperate them by a few years IMO. Quaterbacking is so mental, I don't think QB controversies are good for anyone.
We could use all the five stars we can get. Show me a team with too many 5 stars and I'll show you a team with no leadership.
Yeah. ^ This
I'll take the same problem that Alabama has every year.