Notre Dame A
Oklahoma St. F
Notre Dame A
Oklahoma St. F
Ohio State C+
Penn State B+
Notre Dame A
Michigan would be an A-
Edit: Meant to reply to the OP not your post, sorry.
When you say Pomona, do you mean Pomona College in Claremont? If so, I agree.
Ive been to MSU but i would put them in more the B range. how bad does a campus have to be to get an F?
Oklahoma State is located in Stillwater, OK. Stillwater, OK smells like cow shit all year. Seriously.
MSU gets an A-? I seriously hate the area, regardless of school affiliation. A couple of my good friends moved there after college and it was a dump.
Im sad to say my mom works in the athletic dept for MSU. Ive been there a few times. they have a few nice buildings but most of it looks like it was built in 1968.
Never comprimise to your enemy. +1
Btw, could not agree with your analysis of the campus any further.
UNC (Chapel Hill) A+
Stanford-A+ (visited relatives last yr who live 30 mins from the campus. everywhere in the bay area is beautiful).
SLIPPERY ROCK-A+++++++ not really but I have fun here lol
It is hard to beat Malibu and PCH.
Come on, guy. Whatever you have against Clemson, the fact is it is a beautiful town and campus: A.
Purdue is not an A+ its all brick. There is no natural beauty. I dont like it but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I've been to Purdue twice, about 14 years apart, both times to see Michigan play, including the cold rainy game last fall. Saw more of the campus this time, really wasn't impressed. And I imagine if you're one of them, they're the "friendliest campus," but not if you're wearing maize and blue.
but it has two saving graces.
One, you can get to both the Basketball and Football games on foot in 10 minutes from any dorm.
Two, it has the campus center, which was once ranked one of the 100 most beautifully landscapped places in the US by US NEWS.
WHen those trees all bloom... wow.
I actually once took a photo that won a local art contest there.
Never been to Stanford, but I've had family tell me the exact same thing. They told me it was hands down the nicest campus they've ever seen.
I've only seen the campuses of the bigger schools in Michigan but Ann Arbor is by far my favorite. Probably a bit of homerism mixed in that opinion.
i think it helps that the campus is surrounded by million dollar houses too.
Yes it's nice, but in an old Palm Springs resort sort of way. It's not very college-y. I kept looking for the little old ladies with their tennis rackets.
The town of Palo Alto is nice and trendy, but it's seperated from the University and not very close.
Some of the campus student housing looks like 1970's Brady Bunch architecture.
I know many people love Stanford, but to me, it feels a little cold. It just doesn't have that classic college feel.
I'd give high marks to Wisconsin, Pepperdine, Cornell, Indiana, and maybe Princeton.
Notre Dame A+ (Beautiful in the Springtime--I know, I know)
North Carolina B-
OK State S (For smells like cow shit)
For reference, I'd give Michigan a solid B.
A b- for unc? Really? I love that campus, easily my favorite outside of Ann Arbor. Brick side walks, arboretum on campus, gardens everywhere, sculpture, old buildings, then the modern stuff on the medical side. It's like William and Mary but bigger.
I may be grading hard, but it's also been a while since I was in Chapel Hill.
Someone else mentioned Miami, OH. Very nice campus. I almost went to undergrad there.
UNC was one of the nicest campuses I have ever been too. It's an A for sure. But everyone has their own opinion. I was also there in the summer when there were gorgeous girls everywhere and also visited the Dean Dome. But the campus is beautiful, and I thought the city was a perfect college town.
I echo the sentiment about Miami of (OH). Most the campus’s I’ve visited have been in the Midwest, and while I’m partial to Miami of (OH) campus due to my undergrad years there, I feel one would be hard pressed to find a better college setting. The consistency in campus design coupled with the ambiance of its surroundings tends to be a hard combination to beat.
Notre Dame's campus is very pretty, but IMO you can't evaluate a campus without taking the surrounding town into consideration . . . and South Bend is a terrible, dumpy city. I'll be generous and give it a B.
Duke is very similar to ND in this way (Durham is awful), but for some reason has two campuses divded, requiring bus transit. C+.
UNC was pretty cool. A-.
Princeton is very small, but a nice campus/town. B+.
Yale is a lot like ND/Duke, but the town is possibly crappier still. C.
USC is a nice campus . . . in South Central. C-
Northwestern is kind of boring, but in a nice location. B.
MSU . . . meh. B-.
Purdue . . . not much going on. C+.
Indiana was pretty nice. B+
with the Sandals resort analogy.
"the middle of Detroit and Gary Indiana's love child".
Great college campus...hideous city around it.
Good point, although it is easier to avoid South Bend at Notre Dame or Durham at Duke than, say, Ann Arbor for Michigan because those two campuses exist sort of separately from the town. However, you're right--or you stay in the dorms on Saturday for four years.
As for good ol' A2, I'd give it an A-. It'd get a perfect grade, but North Campus is a bit of a downer for people who have to take classes there.
Yeah Oklahoma reminds me of MSU. Texas is overrated on all fronts but the campus is especially unimpressive. I think you hit both those ratings on the nose.
It depends on what you're looking at. If it's just campus, Texas is really overrated, which is what I was looking at. I love Austin, it reminds me a lot of a bigger Ann Arbor or Madison, but the campus itself is nothing to write home about.
B- is a little harsh I think..facilities may be a little dated (not athletic I mean; I love the Dean Dome), but I thought it was a GORGEOUS campus...tucked away on the little hillside, little downtown area...really enjoyed my time there
I was also blown away by Wake Forest...compact little campus completely surrounded/enclosed by a mini-forest in the heart of Winston-Salem...sucks that the football stadium is a little ways away, but overall thought it was a great place with a great feel to it...
i'll be back in the bay in 3 weeks. I hope i can go through Berkely.
Really? I'm doing my graduate work here, and I don't think this campus holds a candle to Ann Arbor. Overwatered lawns in a place where grass shouldn't grow to begin with, haphazard placement of buildings (and equally haphazard selection of architectural schemes - the Doe Library is nice, but WTF is up with Birge?), Telegraph is way sketchier than South U, there are zero worthwhile bars near campus, and I'm so, so tired of walking/biking up this damn hill every day. OTOH, the creek through the middle of campus is nice, and having a view straight out over the Bay to the Golden Gate bridge when walking home at night is pretty hard to beat. I'd give it a B- overall, but not an A+.
Agreed that Stanford has an absolutely beautiful campus... but agreed also with whoever said it feels more like a country club than a college.
Columbia is a hilarious approximation of a college campus. Come on.
It's considered one of the best. Small but beautiful.
I give Vandy an A. It is a beautiful campus. Add in lots of good looking girls and it moves up to an A for me.
Not yet mentioned-Wash U in St Louis. Great campus as well. Not so much for the girls though
I forgot i briefly went through Temple in downtown Philly. That to me was odd. A lot of thier classes were in very lage buildings.
Also in a bad part of town. Friends of mine have had their car broken into multiple times there.
nicest campus I have been on. Worst: Mississippi State's in Starkville--I still have nightmares about it. MSU's campus surprised me as reasonably attractive but what no place--not even Stanford has--the UM has is such a great town cheek-by-jowl w. it. NYU maybe :).
Canadian so haven't been on too many US campuses but I completely agree with the A for Washington. Sunny day next to Lake Washington with the mountains in the background isn't easy to complain about.
It's funny that people have such disparate perceptions. I live in Seattle and would give UW a C. Mostly because it's dirty, urban and just doesn't seem like college to me. There are some nice views on a clear day.
I live in the seattle area too. Ive been there many times. I would say the U district could be percieved as dirty but the campus is really nice.
U District? Dirty?
I worked at UW 20 years ago, and, maybe it's changed, but I would not say that any neighborhood in Seattle is dirty, at least not by the standards of the East Coast, where I'm from originally. Newark's dirty. New Haven's dirty. Not the U District.
Univerzita Karlova v Praze = A+
Michigan = A
UVA = C-/D+ (have to take the people into consideration)
American University = F
NW = B
Purdue = D
Colorado = A
Duke = A
Wisco = A
ND = C-
Villanova = B
UF = A
UCF = C+
BGSU = F
MU (OH) = A
Alabama (unfortunately) A+ it is beautiful
USF (South Florida) C -
Florida State A
University of Tampa B
I can tell you that Harvard campus is nice but somewhat overrated. University of Western Ontario in London is awesome if any of you have been or get the chance. Really I've only actually been to about 4 campuses besides those two so the rest is just what I've seen from pictures. I too have heard Stanford is the gold standard.
I would give Oregon a C- or D+. The campus is not very well taken care of and leaves someting to be desired. The athletic facilities are some of the best in the country, but even those can't make up for the rest of the campus.
Oregon State C+/ B-
Humbolt State C-
Miami of Ohio- A
Penn St= A
Miami (NTM)= B
Ohio U= B+
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the University of Chicago campus. It's urban and not for everyone, but the layout is incredible and they're easily the best example of neo-Gothic architecture in the US.
I definitely agree with your assessment of UChicago. They get pretty high marks on my list:
Michigan: [A-] - The minus only comes from my experience as an Engineer and having to take the damn bus every day
MSU: [B+] - Huge campus; the central part is okay but the mega dorms on the east side are horrid.
USC: [B] - Yes its in a shitty area, but Staples center is close, the campus is nice, and their fraternity/sorority row is pretty awesome as well
UCLA: [B] - The main area around Royce Hall is beautiful; the rest of campus, not so much.
UCSD: [C-] - Too new, and no real student ghetto nearby since the neighborhood is swanky. Like a much larger North Campus (in many ways)
Cal: [B+] - Has more of a Michigan feel, which comes with the age of the buildings.
Virginia: [A] - Just beautiful. Ann Arbor mixed with Colonial charm.
Maryland: [B+] - Their campus is nice; the mall in the center is beautiful. The town is way boring.
U Chicago: [A-] - Campus has beautiful gothic structures with stain glass windows. Looks very much like the Law Quad. Just dont venture too far South or West...
Northwestern: [B+] - Their campus is nice but not great; the views of Chicago along the lake are spectacular.
Notre Dame: [A-] - Beautiful campus, though the off campus areas suck. I also couldnt bring myself to rate them above Michigan.
Washington: [B+] - Beautiful campus, though its on a hill which makes getting around a little tricky. Nice views of Seattle (when the sun shines)
Oregon: [C] - I was honestly a little surprised by how Eugene didnt wow me when I went. The buildings arent particularily ugly, but also arent particularily beautiful.
Colorado: [A-/B+] - The Rocky Mountain version of Ann Arbor. Beautiful views of the mountains, cool town, campus buildings are good but not great.
Iowa: [B-] - The campus isnt anything to write home about. The Ped Mall, OTOH, is fantastic.
You can say that again; when I was a senior in high school taking tours, Chicago was my number one choice and I think my mom actually lost sleep over its location.
Hyde Park isn't all that bad (the houses around the university easily top a million dollars and it has the highest concentration of PhD's in the state) but get on the Electric Line going south and you'll have an...interesting...time.
New Hampshire B+
Tufts B- (nothing but houses, houses, houses around it)
UMass-Lowell F (this building is a part of that campus:http: http://home.comcast.net/~corey.sciuto/images/lowell12/bridges1.jpg ... enough said.)
I know that a lot of people don't go for Harvard's urban setting, but I can't agree that UNH is it's equal. Regardless of anything else, I think Harvard should get some bonus points over UNH just because when you walk on campus, you know that so many famous and accomplished people have been there and seen the same things you're seeing now. You can't say that about UNH.
Offhand, I can think of about 3 spots on the Olentangy Bikeway in Columbus that look a lot like that picture.
I can see why they might've 'differed' you
As a fellow Chippewa I hate to tell you that CMU might be a little below an A-, but you're entitled to your opinion. I'd give it a B; take Wayside out of Mount Pleasant and maybe the positive effects would carry onto the campus though...
I love the big school feel on a small campus. Probably right though, the architecture isn't really anything special. Agree 100% about wayho
Very true, people who have gone or go there can truly appreciate it. Not a walk from building to building on that campus that's more than 15 minutes. Plus, the new Education builiding is superb, and the medical school is coming along nicely.
Well stated, Central is defintaly an acquired taste. Also love giving crap to my friends at state and U of M about the walking distances.
UNC A+ (It's Ann Arbor with nicer weather)
Iowa State B
on UNC...this might be blasphemy, but I might have, possibly, could have, potentially liked it there better than Ann Arbor...unbelievable scenery, weather, nice people, nice setting...just lacking on undergrad academics compared to UM
but I found it to be smaller and a little bit dull versus Ann Arbor.
And that powder blue just gives me a headache.
Chapel Hill has nicer winter weather than Ann Arbor, but in the summer it is oppressively humid. I thought Michigan summers were humid until I spent some time down South. Ugh.
Stanford: A (ugh, pains me to say that)
Penn State: B+/B
Harvard/MIT: B (Pretty similar in a lot of respects since they're, like, down the street from one another)
Mich State: B
Ohio State: B (realistically), F (in my heart)
This is great. I'm probably going to be in the Palo Alto area this summer, so I'll have to head over and check it out.
when you head out there. I'm in PA Monday thru Thursday and can give you the scoop on the best restaurants depending on your palate.
In order as I think of them...
Penn State B-
Boston College B+
Grand Valley D
And for reference, Michigan gets a B+.
It might be the B+ for Michigan, though, or it might just be the serial neggers I seem to have picked up. I do see a lot of negs for anything less than an A for Michigan. What can I say? I'm clearly biased. I love how well-integrated the U-M campus is to Ann Arbor, but points deducted for the North Campus and for not really having a unifying style of architecture.
UCLA - A-
USC - B-
Cal - B
UChicago - B
Stanford - A
Duke - B+
UNC - A-
Georgetown - B-
GWU - C+
Harvard - B+
MIT - B-
CMU - C
UPenn - B-
Columbia - B
I think the only Big Ten campus besides Michigan that I've seen is Northwestern. Their architecture isn't that great, but they really make it work for them.
Washington - A. With the campus right on the lake, and completely stuffed with trees and greenery, this is one of the prettiest campuses you can find. That combined with the football stadium being on-campus, is a huge plus. The only thing keeping this from the cream is the rain.
UCLA - B-. It's a series of building surrounded by more buildings, fast food joints, hotels, offices, and more concrete. The weather is fantastic, but the Rose Bowl is several miles away. At least I got to play pickup with some buddies in Pauley Pavilion!
Central Michigan - D. Yeah. Nothing here to see. Seriously.
Western Michigan - C. Meh.
Northwestern - B-. The lake is nice in the summer, and sucks ass in the winter. My biggest beef is that everything is so damn old there. Also, I was there for summer camps, and their civil engineering department flooded after heavy rains. <3 irony.
Harvard - B. It has the charm of an old school, but that's also a minus, as many buildings (especially dorms) are fucking ancient and tiny. Big plus - everything is super close by.
MIT - B-. If everything weren't so industrial and overly urban, I'd have liked it a lot more. Not a big fan of having a 6-lane road bisecting campus. The river does add points though.
Princeton - B. Gorgeous, but in the middle of fucking nowhere. Seriously. There's nothing around except for a Panera and a Starbucks for miles. The nearest true source of entertainment is NYC. Plus, its in Jersey.
Caltech - B+. Small, but immaculately maintained. Flowers bloom year round, as there are almost as many gardeners as there are students. Weather is also great. But there's no major nightlife nearby and the beaches are over an hour away.
Claremont/Mudd/Scripps/Pomona/Spitzer - C+. Small and severly lacking in identity. Nearest liquor facilities are a ways away. Far away from the coast.
Occidental College - B+. It's secluded enough to be peaceful, but shops and restaurants are close enough to walk to. It's a pretty campus, not too big, and enjoys the soCal weather.
Not going to review Michigan because everyone else has, and I can't be impartial. And surprisingly enough, even though I lived in Ann Arbor for 17 years, I've never been to the MSU campus.
Notre Dame: Didn't love it, B-
Univ of Chicago: B+
Wash U St. Louis A-
Cornell is depressing as all hell, like if you took UM's north campus, put it in the middle of nowhere and then surrounded it with convenient suicide gorges. I give it a D
RPI (Troy, NY) is even more depressing, as the campus/the Troy area is not only disgusting and beaten-down, it seems the entire school body is there solely for the scholarship money RPI throws to at least 1 kid from every high school in New York. I got one of these scholarships, visited for half a day, and my mother and I left as quickly as we could. Solid F--
Two that you should see. Both smaller schools.
Point Loma Nazarene University on the bluff overlooking the entrance to San Diego Bay and Pepperdine in Malibu. Both A plus plus with extra credit for participation in choir and student government.
Point Loma Nazarene:
about Pepperdine...really liked it..can't beat the location and pretty nice people (I thought)...
Simply bc of this pic on their brochure
Colorado - A
Air force - A-
Colorado State - C+
Illinois State - F
Arizona State - C for campus, A+ for coeds from April to October
Univ. of Ariz - C
U of San Diego - B
Northern Ariz - B (only bests the other AZ schools because it has seasons and a "mountain")
Western Mich. - C
Central Mich - F
Eastern Mich F+
Nebraska - F--- (admitted bias)
Virginia Tech B-. nice area. nothing there
Delaware B+. cool downtown. still delaware
Cincinnati: A-(surprisingly beautiful)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Therefore, our campus is always an A+ in my heart but in reality its a solid B (its just a very big campus and some areas are an A+ and some are below average).
Re: Stanford and the other highly rated evals in this thread, another family member, my drunk uncle Ted, once told me at Thanksgiving that just because a girl wears a pretty dress that does not mean that she's not a dirty skank....FWIW.
Very confused teenage years has translated into adulthood...
Michigan is not an A campus wise. It's a mish-mash of styles, some of which don't look that great together (I'm looking at you LSA building along side the Union across the street from Angell.)
Every once in awhile the campus tries to get on a roll with the unified look of brick and white cement trim, ala the Union, West Quad, East Quad, and now North Quad, but it is broken up all over the place. The Law quad is phenomenal and the Ross B-school is bad ass, but they don't look like they are part of the same campus.
There is no central main focal point like the sweeping grassy lawn of Old Main at Penn State. The Diag is mostly hidden and a little bit swampy.
The weather is the weather. Eight months of the year are actually decent for a college experience, but Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar are cold, windy and gray. The worst is actually March. Dec/Jan/Feb are winter and you expect winter. The snow can be very pretty. But in March, you are ready for spring and it just won't freakin come.
What makes Michigan rank so highly however is the ultimate college town of Ann Arbor and how it is right at your doorstep. There are prettier campuses than Michigan, but some of them get old fast, like Duke. There are few places better to spend four years actually living there than Michigan/Ann Arbor.
I have to disagree about there not being a main central point - the Diag serves that purpose well. IMO, the walk from the corner of State and North U through the Diag to the Engin Arch is one of the best strolls you can take on a college campus anywhere, especially when it's nice out.
The campus is definitely a mix of styles, but it's gradually getting prettier. (And I don't mind some variety; Indiana's campus is 100% limestone and it gets a little monotonous.) Most of the newer buildings fit in well architecturally (and the stadium renovations finally bring it in harmony with the rest of the campus). The only big exception there are the B-school buildings, which are definitely out of place. The newest one looks like it belongs in Arizona or New Mexico.
I like the variety because you can seperate the schools based on the look. You know when you're going through the law school or the Ford school, or LSA or Ross.
If you've been around it recently, it amazing the upgrades they've made. The Life Sciences section is beautiful (compared to the factory the area used to look like). But if you haven't been back in 10-15 years, and remember some of that awful construction, it might not hold fond memories. I mean, the Ugli isn't even ugly anymore....
hard to be impartial but michigan is probably a legit A- with the combination of a great town and some awesome architecture (law quad especially) the only negative is the distance between some areas and that makes it not an A for me.
Wisconsin - A
Northwestern - B-
ND - Campus itself is an A+ but the surrounding town sucks so Ill give it an A-/B+
UChicago - B+
MSU - B
Hope - B
Miami Ohio - Like ND campus is cool but surroundings are weak... b+
Miami Florida - B+
Indiana - B+
Kenyon - A (amazingly beautiful place, check it out if you have the chance)
Virginia - A+... the gold standard for me
Michigan - A
No need to explain.
Wake Forest - B+
As green as MSU, nice weather, nice campus in general, but no really close bars.
MSU - B
Really green, but huge, and too spread out.
Loyola - B
Right on the water but too far from downtown to get the perks.
DePaul - B
Right in the middle of where you want to live.
Michigan Tech - C
Beautiful, but nothing to do other than winter sports. Also there are no chicks.
Wayne St. - D
Lots of bums, surprised I was not shot.
Using Ann Arbor as the basline:
Arizona St: B+
Michigan Tech: B-
I will never go to Columbus.
Indiana State- B- I currently go there, nothing real special but its real nice in the spring and summer.
Cal Berk- A-
LSU- D+ I just hate Baton Rouge, that place looks and feels dead to me.
Texas A&M- B+
Kansas- A+ Loved everything about KU and the parties were amazing.
Rose Hulman- B- Engineering school in Terre Huate, IN that looks nice.
As a high school senior visiting college campuses have pretty much consumed my life for the last year or so! So here are some of my favorites:
U of M: B+ Has what many others do not... a nice city that surrounds campus. A nice combination of new and old buildings. Kind of big and spread out though.
Northwestern: A- Some people aren't as high on NU as I am. I personally loved it. The campus was nice and it is right on the length. In addition, the surrounding areas are super nice. Negative: its frickin' cold in the winter!
State: C Well... enough said (possibly slightly biased)
Washington University in St. Louis: A OBVIOUSLY not a sports powerhouse, but a very beautiful campus and an ivy league-caliber education. Campus known as the "WashU bubble" since it is separated from any kind of college town. Most amazing dorm area I have ever seen.
Duke: N/A I have never been on campus but have heard it is beautiful! Hopefully I will be accepted and can go see it later this spring. I love U of M but I am sort of ashamed to say that duke is my "dream school" ... and then U of M for medical school!
Ohio State: F For fail.
Northwestern didn't do much for me. It had a lot of the tangibles (very close to home for me, on the lake, prestige) but the campus wasn't all that impressive apart from one of the professional schools. It must have been journalism, but I don't remember for sure. Their union building seemed outdated, but their geographical location is amazing.
It's always "where's the campus?" and finding anything around it to do in the neighborhoods is tough. But it is an El ride to Chicago, so it has that going for it.
I like the more central-oriented campuses. In the two schools I've attended (Pitt and IU) I've never had classes in three different buildings in a semester and I really like that. NU was nice, but too spread out for its size in my opinion.
Speaking of spread out, I absolutley hated the PSU campus.
I lived in or near Evanston for 7 years. There is loads of stuff to do in Evanston... entertainment, fantastic food, natural beauty, shopping and great people. The fact that you can then just jump on the El or Metra and be downtown in minutes is gravy! You must have had a bad host or bad map while visiting.
Columbia: Damn if they didn't figure out a way to put an actual college campus right in the middle of Manhattan. It's small, but once you are off the street it's an actual college campus with grass and frisbees and students just hanging out.
NYU: The exact opposite of Columbia. There is no "there" there. The only way you can tell you are on a college campus is by the purple banners hanging on some of the high rises. Other than that, you can't really tell where NYU begins and where it ends. (George Washington University in DC is like this too.)
Lehigh: The entire campus is built on the side of a mountain along a winding switchback road. No matter where you are, if you look down you see rooftops of buildings below you, and if you look up you see foundations of buildings above you.
Stanford: I mentioned this above. Stanford is more Palm Springs resort than college campus. It is very pretty in a country club sort of way, but it is not very college-y. It does feel like there is money all about.
Cornell: Cornell is one of those places that IS very college-y. Built into gorges in the finger lakes region of upstate New York, it is a spectacular college setting in the fall.
Duke: Duke is like going to school and church at the same time. The entire campus is stone cathedral architecture. It's pretty but it can weigh on you sometimes. There is no break from the sameness. Durham is meh at best and is far away.
Penn State: Penn State is not unique per se, but from a Michigan perspective it is quite different from Ann Arbor. Everything in Penn State is very clearly segmented. On one side of the main road is the university, on the other side is the town. Behind the town is the frats. Behind the university off to the side is the athletic complex. You always know where you are, never the twain shall meet. It's not like Michigan/Ann Arbor where the town and the university are interspersed together all over the place.
Virginia: Virginia, personally designed by Thomas Jefferson, looks exactly what you would think the founding fathers had in mind for a university. It's like a Colonial time-bubble. Virginia is what Harvard looks like in your mind, until you actually visit Harvard and are a little bit disappointed by it.
In Seattle, good architecture (not as good as UM, but good), gorgeous scenery, close to mountains and right on a lake with a channel to the ocean. Hard to beat.
I would say Indiana- A+ but i go there and it feels like home even tho im from South Bend.
Notre Dame- B-/C+ its just really small and not nearly as special as people make it sound.
Michigan- A i love going to games up there. Its a great atmosphere.
Pepperdine is by far the best A++++++. Words dont describe it
Indiana's campus (A+) is like the exact opposite of Purdue's (F-).
I like to "collect" college campuses. Every time I am in a new city or town, I make it a point to visit the local college campus and hang out.
I get extra points if I can get into their football stadium and on the field. This used to be a lot easier pre 9-11. You could walk on into the stadium and on the field at just about every school.
Just curious for the folks who just gave letter grades to campuses, what were your personal observations that led to those grades?
but would like to:
- Notre Dame/South Bend
- LSU/Baton Rouge (only if I can see a night football game)
- Ole Miss/Oxford
I'm with you. I love visiting college campuses and usually do try and at least mosey around if I'm somewhere and I have the chance to. Since you asked:
- Virginia: obvious bias, but I'd have given it that grade the first time I visited as a HS junior. Beautiful buildings, beautiful landscaping, beautiful landscapes, scads of history, gorgeous style throughout, easy to get around. The buildings don't overwhelm with their size. Brick sidewalks everywhere. Very light vehicle traffic. Excellent college town.
- Cornell and UGA also epitomize "college town" for me. UGA is very similar in many respects to UVA. Cornell has that amazing Gothicy architecture and beautiful natural features all around.
- Washington is incredible. It's in a big city but it feels like a college town. Again, beautiful architecture, and the mountains are fantastic. They really knew how to take advantage of their surroundings when they built that place.
- Some schools like Maryland, Penn State, and Syracuse have certain parts of campus, the older parts, that are really cool, and they get ugly as you leave those areas. The part of town that surrounds Cuse is real iffy. College Park is a suburban dump and State College has nothing there.
- Harvard is really neat inside Harvard Yard. And Cambridge is busy, busy, busy. Almost too busy, actually.
- Minnesota is big. It's got a really nice main mall area and a couple other nice parts but otherwise it's awfully urban, the buildings are just huge, and the south side of campus across the Mississippi is like the North Campus at Michigan - an architectural mistake.
- The service academies are nice but utilitarian, although I'm a huge fan of the USAFA chapel.
- Boston College would be graded higher if it were bigger. It's surprisingly small. Same for the Citadel, minus the surprise. The Citadel is kind of your stereotypical old military academy, which I like.
Schools I want to see, in no real order:
- Notre Dame
- Virginia Tech (blasphemy, but all the buildings are the same style, very military-academy looking, and it actually looks like it'd be really neat.)
- Missouri. (The six columns left over from the burned-down building are cool.)
- Ohio University. My mom took my little brother on a college visit and says it's a lot like UVA.
- Miami (NTM.) Been there once, in the dark. Looked nice and people always have nice things to say.
- North Carolina
- Iowa State
Ever watch the games at the alumni bar?
Tried it once. Only about 4 people were there and haven't been back. Now I watch from home in St. Charles.
EMU-C-....I've been commuting there for four years, and yes Ypsi is a shit hole but due to sheer proximity to Ann Arbor some of that charm rubs off.
UCF-B...only saw it at night time, but does have some nice buildings and cool people/nightlife
SVSU-D....took a visit to saginaw with my parents, tiny campus with tiny dorms that had several buildings under constructions
UIC-B...flew threw it and it looked pretty nice
...parents and extended family are renting a place in Palm Springs next week...so looks like I'm missing out on the chance to see UCLA and USC
Michigan State, B
Penn State, B-
Florida State, B+
Miami (FL), B-
Notre Dame, B-
To be honest, it's hard to remove my experience on the respective campus when basing my ratings. Also, I didn't get much further than the tailgating lots and football stadiums of some of these.
Miami (OH) B+
Univ Phoenix A+
UCSB: A+, I like UCSB the most of the SoCal campuses. I don't understand how anyone graduates from that place. I would spend all my time at the beach.
Pepperdine: A-, I worked across the street from Pepperdine for 9 years. Having a window view of the ocean ain't bad. But, there's no campus there. There's really no place to hang out except for a small outdoor mall type place. I did see Nikki Sixx there.
UCLA: B, there are some nice spots, but really it's just too crowded for my tastes.
USC: C, imagine going to school at the University of Detroit. It's sort of like that. Much too urban for me.
CalTech: A-, It's alright, but Pasadena gets way too hot for me.
UC Irvine: B+/A-, I think they filmed one of the Planet of the Apes movies there, so it gets extra points for that.
Georgia Tech: C, same as USC
Harvard: B+, I like the old buildings and historic charm of the surrounding area.
MIT: C-, I know, it's just down the street but you can tell it was built much later than Harvard and has a real cold, impersonal feel to it. I'm an engineer, but I didn't feel like I was going to Mecca when I visited MIT.
Nebraska: F, just wanted to take a potshot at them before they fully join the B1G. Seriously, we drove past the stadium on a cross-country trip and it's just blah.
Not to mention that it's in the middle of Oklahoma...
Crap, meant to comment to the guy who wrote about Oklahoma State.
prettiest "campus" and best "setting." Pepperdine's "setting" is ridiculous. The only thing it's missing are the Beach Boys singing on the beach 300 yards away. I'd argue UC-Santa Barbara is even better (parts of campus are literally ON the beach). Neither, however, has a campus, buildings, or architecture that exactly wow you.
The most underrated / unknown might be the Stevens Institute of Technology in Hoboken. Unbelievable views of Manhattan--you almost feel like you can touch the Empire State Building.
on U dub, UNC and Rollins College.
Attended 2 of the 3.
But all pale in comparison to A2.
MSU: B to B-
Oklahoma: C. It's not really a part of the surrounding town- which isn't much of a college town anyway- and the stadium is just plopped in the middle of campus. And there's no visitor parking to speak of.
Northwestern: B because of its location on the lake.
Central Michigan: D
Central Oklahoma (grad student there): C, looks exactly like Central Michigan
Ohio State: F times infinity
Bowling Green: C to D
Eastern Michigan: C
Western Michigan: B to C
Michigan Tech: B, small campus and gorgeous yet remote location
Northern Illinois: C+
Indiana State: D to E because it's in Terra Haute, Indiana
Notre Dame: Strong B
Colorado: A to B, like someone said, like Michigan only with mountains
Albion College: C, appealing quaint small college feel but the town smells funny
North Texas: Okay, i've never visted it, but I've driven past it and every time I do, I point out that they have a more-than-epically-horrible football team.
Wow, the first two grades to come in for A&M were a B+ and a B-. I was all set to give it a C-, and figured I'd still get accused of shilling for my employer. We really have no natural beauty to speak of, and a distinct lack of greenspace (despite being a huge campus). Most of the pre-WWII buildings are attractive, but kind of quirky. The buildings that were constructed from the 50's to the 80's could probably be swapped with those of a Soviet campus somewhere and no one would notice. We are undergoing a miniature building boom at the moment, and most of those are large, interesting looking buildings. Definitely an improvement on the previous standard.
Some other campuses I've visited while down here:
Texas - B-
Some attractive buildings, but very closely packed together. Also, whenever I've been there, it's felt sort of run-down and a little trashy.
Rice - B+
Very quiet for an urban campus. Was there on a weekend, and honestly it was too quiet. Fairly pretty though.
Houston - D+
Went to a Houston Dynamo game last year (they play on campus) and UH is in a rough part of town. They have a couple of new buildings that look nice, but I was unimpressed overall.
UT-Dallas - F
Just a travesty. It's an odd mix of modular classrooms and unbelievably ugly buildings.
UM - B+
Stanford - A
Indiana - B+
Notre Dame - B
UCLA - B
USC - C
MSU - C+
Minnesota - C
ASU - B-
UM - A = not just the campus, but the surrounding areas are great for running/active lifestyle.
MSU - B = they'll talk it up as a great campus even though it isn't, but it does have some aesthetic charm. Plus, the river through campus is pretty nice. E.L., though, is about as generically ugly as you can imagine.
Harvard - A- = Obviously a great school but is very cramped. Cambridge is a very cool town and Boston obviously rocks, so they benefit from the proximity a bit.
MIT - A- = See Harvard above, but a little more space. The infinite corridor does mess with you.
BC - B+ = Very cool little campus considering about 3/4 is on a hill. Near Boston helps.
UWashington - A = Just an awesome campus and the views are astounding. Stadium layout may be the prettiest in the country.
OSU - C = Just meh. Far worse than MSU in terms of layout, and there are areas around the campus that would scare the sneer off of Dantonio's face.
Columbia U - B+ = Currently a student, so maybe a bit bias. Campus itself is VERY cramped, but you can get anywhere in the city via the trains and Morningside Heights has some charm.
ND - B- = Just nothing special. The campus itself is beautiful in the fall, but there is nothing else there to do. Plus, they played Rudy in their bookstore on a loop, so they lose points for that.
Fordham U - A-= A very cool little campus, especially given that it is smack-dab in a not-great part of the Bronx.
NYU - C = You only know it exists because of the banner that hang from windows. A great location, but very meh buildings.
UChicago - B- = admittedly only there once at night, but seemed quaint. Definitely not a place you want to be alone at night, but okay right near the school.
GVSU - B = Seemed nice. Rolling hills and all. Kind of like State, but less Sparty-fueled idiocy.
Using B as my average or a meh... because... well, because its my opinion and I can.
First rating is on campus alone. Second on surroundings (town/city and beyond).
UM - A-/A (lived there, attended)
UVA - A-/A (live there now). Campus is beautiful and historic. Landscaping is a discredit to the University. Charlottesville is amazing, including the natural beauty surrounding the town.
MSU - B+/C (lived there, attended). Beautiful landscaping. Architecture is unimpressive. E.Lansing... well, lets just say I'm glad I don't live there any longer!
ND - B+/C-
NW - B+/A (lived there). Evanston and access to Chicago are great!
UNC - A/B Chapel Hill is a pretty neat place, just not much to it
Duke - A+/D Durham = terrible; Campus is absolutely beautiful
IU - A/B
UI - B/B+
Purdue - B+/C- Was surprised, after hearing about how horrible Purdue was for years, at how nice the campus is
VMI - B/B+ Lexington is a cool little town
USMA - A-/C- West Point is an impressive place to visit
USAFA - B-/B Architecture is meh, but the surroundings are beautiful. The Springs is urban spraul meh
UW - B-/A
NCA&T - B-/D
N.Ill - C+/C+
SIU - B/C
W&M - A-/B+
JMU - C+/B-
Loyola (downtown Chicago) - B+/A Great location! Lots of fun to be had
Penn State: C
Notre Dame: C+
San Diego State University: A
UC San Diego (A long time ago): C+/B-
NMU: C- (Everything about Marquette except campus is great.)
CU Boulder: A+
UF - B+
ASU - C
FLAGLER - B+ (cool location)
DEPAUL - B-
ALMA - F
VANDERBILT - D+
MSU - B
U of M - A-
TOLEDO - C+
UofM - A. The feeling was confirmed this week when I took my son up for a visit and we toured the campus. If you went there, you have an emotional attachment to the university that I can only assume other people get when they visit their alma mater. Only theirs sucks compared to ours.
MSC - C. It's like one giant Dollar Tree
Notre Dame - B -love the quad and the stadium. The dorms are hot and small (spent time there at a football camp in the summer of 83). Football Saturdays are pretty electric. The grotto is nice too.
Wayne State - D. Yikes
UCLA - A. I'm originally from SoCal so I have a biased opinion.
USC - C. If you attend a school where kids on the football practice field get hit by a stray bullet, your school sucks.
Pepperdine - A. When you can sit on the front lawn of your school and peer out over the Pacific Ocean, your school doesn't suck.
Oregon State B- Of course it rained while we watched Oregon State beat UCLA back in 89. The students tore down the goal posts and carried them up and out of the stadium, right through campus. That was pretty cool. The buildings had an Ivy League-ish appeal to them.
Stanford A - I like the California architecture with the red tile roofs and stucco siding.
Cal Berkeley B I thought some of the buildings reminded me of Angell Hall and other Michigan buildings. But...you know how sometimes a smell or aroma immediately reminds you of a specific time or place. Well Cal Berkeley falls into that catergory for me, and not in a good way.
Ohio State C cuz it's in Ohio and it blows......and it's in a capital city which generally screams "dump."
Ohio B - I didn't spend any time on campus but we drove past it on our way to North Carolina last year and I thought it was situated in a very picturesque setting in a valley in one of the few hilly regions of Ohio. Maybe the sun was hit it just right...I don't know.
Michigan: A. The only thing holding it back from an A+ is the disconnect between Central and North Campus. Fantastic place to go to school
MSU: B- Looks pretty but is too spread out and really only has one spot to go out thats worth anything. Also some of the dorms are down right scary
PSU B I really liked the campus. Beautiful new campus center and its all built up on one hill area. A lot of housing off of one half while the athletic campus is on the other side. Not a great city but still a lot of fun to visit.
OSU D- Fuck getting full beers thrown at you off balconies as you walk to a game. And apparently you're gay for drinking Sam Adams instead of Natty Light... good times.
Purdue B- Okay campus but nothing to do there and in the middle of nowhere
Fordham B+ Surprisingly nice campus in the Bronx and their Manhattan Campus is small but in a great area right by Lincoln Center and Central Park
NYU C There is no campus but just being in that part of NYC is a lot of fun
Columbia B+ Manages to put a nice campus in a not so nice area. Just a subway ride away from anything.
Wisco B. I really wasn't that impressed with the campus parts that I saw but it was definitely a fun time.
Iowa- C+ Just there for a football game but I didn't like it at all. Kinda trashy
ND- B Beautiful campus with nice buildings and a great spot to walk around but South Bend is just awful as a city.
Harvard B+ Nice, small, pretty campus with good architecture and everything self-contained.
MIT B+ Very weird looking campus but I like it. A lot of strange history that is intriguing to me.
George Mason C+ Not a very nice looking campus. Granted I visited after the DC blizzard last year but its far out from really anything.
UCLA: A- slightly cramped, but being able to wear shorts and a t-shirt in January is awesome. Much more hilly than I expected
Illinois: B+, love greek row and their bar scene. They also have white castle inside their stadium
Wisco: B+, not the biggest fan of urban campuses, but Madison is a pretty fun place
Iowa: B, Girls were surprisingly good looking
Purdue: C, fairly average. Enjoyed the trains giving tours while I was there
Michigan State: C-, too spread out.
Northwestern: C-, based mostly on their athletic facilities.
Arkansas: D-, built into the side of a huge hill. Only one work out facility for the entire campus. Architecture is vomit inducing. Residence halls look like they were built in the 70's. The entire campus also smells like its deep fried.
OSU: Flush twice, its a long way to Colombus
Michigan - A
UChicago - A- (area is too dangerous)
UC Boulder - B (town is cool but campus is bland)
Colorado State - B (nice views)
Air Force - B+
Tulane/Loyola New Orleans - B+ (Mardi Gras floats pass down your street)
LSU - C+ (I really hated Baton Rouge and that campus)
NYU - NA (I couldnt really tell what their campus was my friend just pointed to some buildings that looked like all the other buildings in Manhatten.
90 % of Princeton looks exactly like the Law Quad. Agree with some others UC- Santa Barbara holds classes on the beach -how do you get anything done there?
Stanford - A
Berkeley - B+
San Jose State - C
UCLA - B
USC - C+
CMU - B-
EMU - C
WMU - C
MSU - B -
Northwestern - B
Indiana - B
Penn State - B-
Minnesota - A-
Wisconsin - A-
Marquette - B
Cincinnati - B
Xavier - B-
BGSU - C
Cleveland State - C
Case Western - C+
Harvard - A-
MIT - B+
Providence - B+
Brown - B+
Texas - B
Stetson - B
Depaul - C
Loyola (Chicago) - B-
Maryland Eastern Shore - B-
1. Cornell, as long as you're not there under five feet of snow (even then it's beautiful)
2. SDSU and USD in San Diego: The latter has superb architecture and a view of the Pacific that's the equal of Pepperdine (another great spot)
3. UNC and Duke: Both really beautiful settings, especially Duke, which is like living in part forest/part botanical gardens. Plus the climate has long high points during the school year. Chapel Hill is a good surrounding environment for the university (Durham not so much).
4. Among the Big Ten/Eleven/Twelve etc., Madison is my choice for best, with Michigan and Indiana following, then Happy Valley and Northwestern.
There are also some small schools (e.g. Bowdoin in Maine, the Naval Academy and St. John's in Annapolis) that are really picturesque.
Notre Dame A- (so many trees hard to appreciate the architecture)
University of Chicago A
Michigan B++ (love it but architecture too hodge podge, some beautiful places though)
Virginia B (most over-rated)
William and Mary A+
Georgia Tech B-
Washington (St Louis) C-
My daughter attended Alabama. While Tuscaloosa won't win any beauty contests, the campus is absolutely beautiful.
For schools where I've taken classes or visited:
One Seeds: Princeton, Harvard, USMA-West Point, Michigan
Two Seeds: McGill, Georgetown, Emory, Boston College
Three Seeds: Fordham, U Mass-Amherst, MIT, Syracuse
Four Seeds: Columbia, Yale, Rutgers-New Brunswick, Villanova
Five Seeds: Tufts, Boston University, American University, The Citadel
Six Seeds: Holy Cross, Eastern Michigan, Florida Atlantic-Boca Raton, Northeastern
Seven Seeds: NYU, George Washington, SUNY-Albany, SUNY-New Paltz
Eight Seeds: RPI (Rennselaer Polytechnic Institute), Fairleigh Dickinson-Teaneck, Ramapo College (NJ), Temple
Tough call giving USMA-West Point the edge over Michigan, but Grant and Eisenhower get the nod over Gerald Ford, even while the speech that gave us the Peace Corps trumps the speech that gave us expansion of the war in Afghanistan.
Emory may rated too high, but its soccer pitch and all that Diet Coke gets it a two seed. In the Jesuit class, BC over Fordham for the two seed, only because there’s a D-1 hockey arena there, but they’re somewhat interchangeable (for proof see the film "Solitary Man" with Michael Douglas and trade the Flutie Aura for the Lombardi Aura). MIT over Columbia because they don’t have a Head of the Hudson Regatta, and the Head of the Charles Regatta remains a nice event -- and there's that Facebook thing.
Despite being snow-covered for most of the regular school year, Syracuse gets a three seed for having the nation’s largest on-campus, indoor football stadium where crowds for basketball games occasionally outdraw crowds for football and the Newhouse School’s facilities for the nation’s future broadcasters. Boston University has less grass than your average Phish concert, but gets a five seed among the city schools for being within walking distance of Fenway Park, having great views of the Head of the Charles, a performance center that's almost as good as Hill Auditorium and its TWO on-campus hockey arenas, including the one where Mike Eruzione, Jim Craig, Jack O’Callahan and Dave Silk played (see the film "Miracle".)
Northeastern gets a 6 seed over NYU and George Washington among the city schools, only because its renovated hockey arena is where the Celtics and Bruins once played – and it’s within walking distance of Fenway Park. FDU’s basketball gym (in Hackensack, NJ – the town saved by Superman in the first Christopher Reeve film) is where LeBron James had his coming-out party for college recruiters, NBA scouts and an ESPN film crew at the abcd Baketball Camp after his sophomore year of high school. If you're
I've been to a few campuses, mostly in the East. Rutgers was alright. MD I've been to several times. Penn State was pretty cool and I got to drive by Beaver Stadium, that place is huge.
Solely based on propoganda and PAC-10 school commercials during games, many of those campuses are pretty nice.