I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
+20,000,000 for that!
At least admit that you got this pic from the epic shaggybevo co-op statue thread. You make it sound like you did this, and unless your username is RollTideTA...
By the way, that thread is TRULY epic. Several of the guys from tigerdroppings (LSUFreek, Rattlehead, and Notorious GOP) made their way over there and did some incredible (as usual) stuff.
and I sourced on a thread yesterday that is gone.
Sorry for any misunderstanding. I have no photoshop skills nor the time to develop them............just the time to follow the musings of 17 year old football players.
Thanks for the clarification. Tough to tell on the interwebs, you know? I obviously missed your other post. =)
is up to 30 pages last I looked.
Does Auburn deserve the death penalty if these charges bear out? The Mayor, Kyle King, at Dawg Sports certainly thought they deserved the death penalty. IN 2006! The history of charges against Auburn is insane...
"Probation" is not an unfamiliar word on the Plains. Auburn's N.C.A.A. infractions history includes seven major infractions cases in the last 50 years, not including the present unpleasantness in the so-called Loveliest Village.
Auburn's history of major violations includes getting slapped with three years' probation in 1957, three years' probation in 1958, and a two-year ban on postseason and television appearances in 1979.
Auburn was held responsible for unethical conduct in November 1991 and sanctioned for unethical conduct and a lack of institutional control in August 1993.
In the latter instance, the N.C.A.A. imposed punishments upon the Auburn athletic department just as Terry Bowden was about to begin his first season as the Tigers' head coach. Following his subsequent resignation under fire, Coach Bowden said on tape that A.U. boosters were funneling large amounts of cash to recruits.
The most recent instance of wrongdoing on the Plains occurred when Auburn was placed on two years' probation on April 27, 2004. The N.C.A.A. news release announcing the latest penalties against the Plainsmen stated that, during the probationary period from April 2004 to April 2006, "the university shall continue to develop and implement a comprehensive educational program on NCAA legislation and submit periodic reports to the NCAA," including "a preliminary report that sets forth a schedule for establishing this compliance and educational program."
And of course, the "present unpleasantness" at the time was surrounding alleged academic fraud in 2005/2006, while the 2004 incident surrounded the secret recruitment of Bobby Petrino while Tuberville was still the head coach. They were eventually cleared, but that is a litany of charges. If these latest charges prove to have merit, SHOULD Auburn be given the death penalty?
Poor Auburn. This only adds to all the good Karma we had with last week. Now we just need a recruit or two to commit, plus a win at Purdue. We are on a roll.
If Mississippi State had just paid the money up front to get him. And I thought they were in the SEC. It's no wonder they haven't had a winning record in the conference in ten years.
So is there any hope at all that Auburn has dirt on the rest of the SEC programs and can use that info to avoid the death penalty? I'd love to see the entire SEC dirty house of cards come crashing down.
A guy can dream can't he?
Highly doubt it.
Apparently people at the NCAA expressed regret about the SMU death penatly as it basically killed their athletic department for 20+ years. They're only now just starting to bounce back.
Plus, SMU had widespread problems involving most of their players. With Auburn we're talking about just 1. In other words, if these charges pan out, I'm guessing the penalties look more like USC's current ones than the SMU death sentence.
Couldn't find anything officially documented but the NCAA pretty much said the death penalty does not exist anymore after what it did to SMU's program.
It hasn't happened at the D1 football level, but Moorehouse Soccer and MacMurry Tennis have both received the death penalty within the last 10 years.
Also, not quite the death penalty, but Baylor basketball was limited to regular season conference games after their recent scandal.
I wonder if the damages SMU faced would be replicated at a place like Auburn. They would undoubtedly suffer, but if say they were forced to sit out one season, would they be set back for 20 years? I find it hard to believe with the TV money and BCS money they would receive that they couldn't recover withing 5-10 years. If it can be proven that Auburn's coaches knew about the alleged payout, I think the death penalty is an appropriate penalty.
If Auburn paid Cam Newton, they deserve the death penalty.
kick in the groin for Auburn fans. This could end up as the third undefeated season in the last 17 years for Auburn without a National Championship.
They went undefeated in 1993 but were on probation and not eligible to be voted National Champs by the Coaches. The AP voted them 4th, behind three one loss teams.
They then went undefeated in 2004, only to see the BCS formula pick USC and Oklahoma, who were both also undefeated.
Fast forward to 2010 where, if they can hold serve these next few weeks, they most certainly will play in the NC game. If they were to win, it may be a foregone conclusion that the title will eventually be taken away.
You'd think that Auburn would have learned from the Albert Means scandal and, if Alabama having been on the brink of receiving the death penalty hadn't sent enough of a message, the Reggie Bush scandal. I guess it only further demonstrates that "SEC speed" doesn't refer to learning ability.
his dad is a Preacher. Straight Cash Homie.
could put some type of insurance policy in place for players that have a future NFL career ending injury. Then they have their education and some cash to get them started on a different career path ??
This policy has been in existence for years. The amount of the policy depends on how high the player is projected to go.
I posted yesterday a call for restraint in this matter. I have now changed my mind and I'm on the way to the hardware store now.
How much do pitchforks cost anyways?
I hate to say "that's the SEC", but this really does not come as any surprise to me. It is a tough spot these families find themselves in, and while it certainly does not excuse actively and knowingly breaking the NCAA rules, I don't completely blame them either for trying to make good on promise that is one ACL injury away from disappearing forever.
I agree on the families - can't fault them totally for doing what is in their best interests - blaming them is too easy for the schools or anyone else.
but I knew this guy reminded me of Pryor for some reason!
...takes on the Cam Newton story. Spencer's in the smoke = fire camp.
It's also got a great new LSUFreek gif on the Les Miles grass incident.
Anyone notice this? What's his angle here? Why doesn't he hunt down Newton with the same doggedness he does for Rich Rodriguez? Freep FTW.
I just read this and was thinking, WTF? Unreal.
No kidding... he even goes with the everybody cheats like this line of reasoning.
I was just coming to ask the same thing. Buying players no big deal. Extra stretching is an abomination.
Michael Rosenberg, better known to the world as the man who would connect Somali food supply instability to Rich Rodriguez's improper and excessive use of athletic tape on Michigan's shoulder pads, takes the ice to the tune of Nickelbacks "Hurrg Gurngle Fartbuckle Urngh" 'and executes a perfect triple Salchow of stupidity.
"What I find remarkable is that, if all of this is true, the under-the-table payments are what would upset people the most. I mean, yes, it is against NCAA rules. But in any other segment of society, if a college kid found a way to use his talents to bring in money to support his father's church, he would be a hero. There would be glowing newspaper profiles and probably a few humanitarian awards. If a kid does it in college football, he's a villain."
Christopher Hitchens just ripped out his IV of chemo and Johnnie Walker Black reading that, but he probably does that three or four times a day (to change it out) (because he requires more whiskey, not more chemo.)
Hate to see it happen to anyone, but hopefully this is dealt with swiftly and effectively. Can't have this sort of rule breaking running rampant in the NCAA.
from yesterday. The suspense is killing me!
Kenny Rogers, on ESPN Dallas radio, telling the interviewer that Cecil Newton told him, in front of two Miss St coaches, that it would take "between $100,000 and $180,000" to sign Cam.
You reap what you sow. The pro-Newton faction tried to make it out like Rogers was an independent actor trying to make $ off of Rogers, giving Rogers an incentive to come public and clear his name.
I know a lot of you are trying to say "Freep innocent until proven guilty etc etc" but this case is different. Notice how the Newtons don't actually deny anything -- they just shoot the messenger or say "I'm not talking about that." They are guilty.
What is horrifying about this whole story is how a father is willing to put his son's future at risk so he can make some extra cash. I'm surprised more people haven't called him out for that.
Yeah it's pretty much human trafficking (what his dad did). That is, if the allegations are true, and it's starting to look like they are.
FBI now involved for possible extortion. Funny, when Robert Smithsaid he would still have Cam on his Heisman ballot, Desmond Howard was laughing and said- " Robert Smith has a Heisman ballot??? haha Since when did Robert Smith have a heisman ballot. ??" He was calling him out.
Also, Auburn is "no comment" on whether Cam will play.
...hilarious. Good for Desmond.
This thing is blowing up BIG time.
News agency is reporting a source having said Cecil Newton has now admitted solicitating money from Mississippi State.
Says Cam knew nothing about it nor did Auburn but that's not going to matter to the NCAA.
Tucked away about 1/2 way down the page...
"Now Auburn has hired consultant Gene Marsh, a former chairman of the NCAA infractions committee, to help present its case. The retired University of Alabama law professor has worked on such cases as the recent Michigan football investigation. Marsh also had no comment on the situation Sunday."
This is the first I've heard it insinuated that Auburn may actually have to defend itself. So far, most of the talk has been about MSU knowing. Auburn has maintained they had no clue. If true, why this? We'll see.
Cecil Newton reportedly admitting to soliciting money but claims son, wife knew nothing
coming up next on ESPN radio, likely refers to the story that came out Saturday but interesting all the same.