Lions are already cursed, so the Madden curse should work in reverse...right?
Nope, the curse of Bobby Lane was only 50 years. It expired in 2008, after we finished 0-16, so the Madden curse if fully applicable. I'm sorry to be the bearer of that news.
It is a little odd when someone replies to a post and both users have the same avatar. At first glance it looks like the OP is replying to themselves.
that indeed is very weird... *goes to change picture*
I challenged you to a fight near the monkey bars during morning recess for rights to the avatar a couple weeks ago, but you never showed. I'm glad you did the right thing.
I remember way back in the early MGoBoard days when WolvInLA2 had that avatar and tried to claim it as his own. He eventually got overwhelmed by the flood of n00bs using it and changes his.
Being a Browns fan i can so NO...it takes no prisoners..Hillis got the double curse shitty season on a shitty team
Calvin Johnson just did the Top Ten on Letterman tonight. (He was terrific, by the way. This kid's got a career after football.)
One Brady Hoke did the Top Ten on Letterman after he turned around the football team from Letterman's alma mater. Hoke did pretty well after that. I believe that's enough of a sample to prove the same will hold for Calvin.
Here is the link if anyone is interested: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7855439/calvin-johnson-detroit-lions-wins-madden-13-cover-vote-cam-newton
Let's hope he puts an end to the "curse."
Calvin has been steadily improving all of his career, and didn't do significantly better last year than he had the year before, so the "Madden Curse" (aka regression to the mean) shouldn't really have an effect.
Unless the curse lands him with a season ending injury during the first game of the season.
Looks like Calvin Johnson just came off my fantasy football draft board
That episode of The League was great.
As long as it's not RGIII we're good. Is there an NCAA 13 curse?
Not really one for superstitions, but really?
The guy from Beat Happening?
As a Bears fan
good. always nice to strike a blow to cam newton's ego.
There is no curse. It's just coincidence. Right???
Hooray for Calvin, and hooray for the Lions.
Now let's have a good draft and set the team up for an extended playoff run.
Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, and Ray Lewis have all recently beaten the "curse". I actually think the curse isnt real one bit so I dont care. I mean if CJ gets hurt and misses a game or 2, is that the madden curse or just a part of playing football. Now if he misses 13 games thats a different story but I dont believe in this shit. And Hillis, well he was a one year wonder boy.
Let's hope that curse crap is just bullshit.
You guys do get that the madden curse is just regression to the mean, right? A player is more likely to get the cover after a breakout year (Hillis, for example). But of course, most breakout years come with a lot of luck (as in, the player is outperforming his expectations). The player is likely to regress back to his expected playing level the next year, regardless of whatever accolades he does or doesn't recieve. The madden curse is a definite pattern, but in no way is it cause and effect.
Except that half the guys on the cover got hurt, rather than regressed to the mean.
Whatever though. I'm happy for Calvin, happy that his charity is the one to get a big fat donation as a result, and glad to see him get recognized. As Shaun Alexander put it, "Would you rather be hurt and on the cover, or just hurt?"
I'm a Bears fan so now we can lock Brandon Marshall in as the best WR in the NFC North this year. Thanks Lions fans...
I'm a Lions fan, not a Packers fan, but I think Greg Jennings takes offense at your statement. Hell, I think even Jordy Nelson does too.
I was about to downvote this, but decided that upvoting it as "funny" was a better choice.
Although I think that there is no such thing as the madden "curse" because of the very slim chance there would be a correlation between a players actual performance and him being pictured on the cover of a video game, I think there are some interesting things to note.
1999 - Garrison Hearst - Got hurt in the playoffs, missed the entire next season
2000 - Barry Sanders - Retired
2001 - Eddie George - Year after cover had a toe injury, never had more than 3.4 YPG again
2002 - Dante Culpepper - 13 TD's, 14 INT, ended season in week 11 with back injury
2003 - Marshall Faulk - Ankle Injury, never rushed for more than 1000 yards again
2004 - Michael Vick - Fractured Right Fibula, Falcons went 5-11
2005 - Ray Lewis - Had a very good season with 147 tackles, Ravens did not make playoffs
2006 - Donovan McNabb - Sports Hernia, Eagles went 6-10 finishing last in the NFC East
2007 - Shaun Alexander - Fractured Foot, didnt make 1000 yards, was cut the next season
2008 - Vince Young - Only missed one game with a quad strain, but we all know how his career has gone since
2009 - Brett Favre - went 1-4 in last 5 with jets throwing 8 picks and 2 TD's, picture scandal
2010 - Troy Polomalu and Larry Fitzgerald - Although Fitzgerald only missed one regular season game, he did not play in the playoffs due to broken ribs, Polomalu on the other hand only played in 5 games all season with a sprained MCL
2011 - Drew Brees - Did not get severly hurt in the season, Lost to the 7-9 Seahawks in the playoffs
2012 - Peyton Hillis - Missed games with a Hamstring Injury, Strep Throat, and a strained hip, and he only scored 3 touchdowns all season.
I think Calvin will be fine, but it sure is hard to argue with the fact that 10 of the 15 missed significant time or key games during the season they were on the cover, and 9 of them were never even close to the same caliber of player they were the year prior (with Hillis still to be judged). Add in VIck's jail time and statistics show that 2/3 of the time, if your on the cover of madden, a giant negative turn for the worse will take place in the near future of your career.
Larry Fitzgerald did play in the playoffs the year he was on the cover. He had 6 catches for 82 yards and 2 TD's against the Packers (W, 51-45); the next week he had 6 catches for 77 yards (L, 45-14). Then he missed the Pro Bowl due to broken ribs. So like I said in another one of these threads, if Calvin's only curse is missing the Pro Bowl, then I'm fine with that
my apologies fellas, I strictly took that information off of wikipedia. I figured it would be alright as long as i wasnt writing a research paper
Yeah I figured, most of that was right, I just wanted to clarify that
It's such a small sample and I really have always believed that the "curse" really just speaks to injury risk in the NFL.
The Madden curse is largely due to people cherry picking only the bad.
For example, Garrison Hearst rushed for something like 1500 yards and had over 2000 total yards that year, but got hurt in the playoffs. He still had a stellar season.
Also, with the Eddie George point. Notice how it says, "season after he was on the cover," because the season he was on the cover was far and away his best statistical season (1500 yards and 14 TDS). He also had 2 more 1000+ yard seasons.
If we were to apply that same cherry picking logic to Bret Favre, then we could say the curse didn't have any effect on his play because he the year after he got the cover he had arguably his finest season. We could also apply it to Polamalu and say while he had a subpar 2009, he won defensive MVP in 2010.
It's laughable to suggest that the curse made Vince Young have a horrible season, because he's only ever had horrible seasons. In fact, that year, he might have been the luckiest QB in the league and his Titans squad may have been the luckiest team in the league, because they somehow managed to pull off that miraculous run of games to make the playoffs (The only time Young has made the playoffs in his career). Cursed? More like blessed.
Ray Lewis made 1st team All-Pro the year he was on the cover, and Larry Fitzgerlad caught more TD passes than he's ever caught in a single year in 2009.
Even Marshall Faulk had a solid year (something like 1500 total yards). Madden just happened to put him on the cover the year after he went over the dreaded 2000 carries mark.
Peyton Hillis and Daunte Culpepper had no business being on the cover.
Drew Brees? Cursed? LOL
Barry Sanders wasn't even on the cover of Madden 2000, John Madden was. Only a select few copies games feautured Barry on the cover, and I say "featured" loosely, because the cover was a giant picture of John Madden, with a tiny Barry Sanders picture blurred out of focus in the back ground.
Yeah, that's Barry Sanders' "Madden cover."
Also, I'm not really sure you can say how cursed he was because he retired before the game was even released.
If you want to say Mike Vick and Donovan McNabb were "cursed," that's fine. However, just remember that originally the Madden curse was supposed to end your career, and both of those guys played at a high level long after being on the cover (Vick still is).
The Madden curse was probably conceived in the bowels of the EA Sports marketing department to stir up conversation and draw more attention to the game and its cover athletes.
I think this post needs to be shown to everybody. I didn't really care, but after hearing so many people start whining and complaining about Calvin is "done and so are the Lions", I wanted him to win just to shut them up.
The Madden curse applies to man, not machine.
New giant contract. Cover of Madden. Hopefully he has a career year but I am a little concerned. That shit is real.
Calvin Johnson: Curse Breaker!!!
Curses are real man. Just like ghosts, Bigfoot, the Lochness monster, and Sparty's national recruiting prowess.
And believe there is a curse....but at the same time the NFL is a brutal league with tons of horrible injuries each year, so maybe I'm being extremely illogical believing in the curse.
Shocking how many people care about a competition to decide who appears on the cover of video game for teenagers.
Not to poop on your parade, but the average age of video game players is 37.
Many games have ratings indicating they are not suitable for most teenagers. Not saying people care, but it makes it difficult for one to argue the games are for teenagers.
Totally believe in the curse. Excited and disappointed at the same time
I'm not worried about a curse... I just think that football on the xbox and ps3 are going to be popular in detroit this year. Barry on the cover of NCAA 13 and Megatron on Madden 13. Detroit has come a long way.
Man, he comes off poorly in the linked ESPN video. The first half of it, up until the presentation, is about him, even after Calvin Johnson wins. Of course he is making it rain with self-titled copies of Madden. At least CJ seems like a good dude, pretty reserved.