in town for free camps
Ot: calling all outside sales reps and Motor-heads... Time 2 buy a new car!
You should skip the new car and hire Mike Partlow to drive you around.
Haha that was amazing ^^^
I'm biased but my Audi S4 conquers the snow :) I love it.
Winters? I may need to replace mine this year and like to hear about other peoples experiences.
I use Yokohama 245/45R18 sport tires and they handle pretty well in ice and snow. If I ever head into the mountains I just chain up.
I've put 245/45R-18 Bridgestone Blizzak LM-60 XL's on my RWD car. The car can't handle worth a darn in snow with its standard all-season tires, but with the Blizzak tires it could climb a tree.
Winter tires are essential.
Also, in case someone seriously considers buying an Audi for winter driving, don't buy a TT or an A3. They use a haldex differential instead of the superior torsen differential. The 4 wheel drive experience will be dramatically different.
Or any clutch plate utilizing differential for that matter. Shit ton of gears > wet clutch plates for delivering friction across the half shafts.
I agree with this... Audi's in general are a well built vehicle now... Well worth the investment. I am also looking for a new vehicle and the best balance of all worlds is with the S4
Don't compromise on car quality just because of concerns about winter capabilities. A good set of winter tires (~$800) will make any newish car good to go. Well, maybe not a Ferrari or 911, but anything reasonable.
I drive from grand rapids to Kalamazoo most days. With rwd and have no real issues in winter. If you spend a lot of time in the car, treat yourself to something fun to drive.
Mine is great in the snow...the engine being located above the driving wheels provides excellent traction...though the low clearance does transform my car into a snow plow from time to time.
Is an RS America and never touches snow or rain. The Infiniti G37S is the snow car.
If you don't drive it every day? Seems like a waste to have it sit in the garage.
This one is a C4S Cab...so rain, shine, snow, etc, it's good to go. Love it but i can't wait for the new version to come out.
Thank you UM degree.
But that would destroy me on my Car allowance.
I just bought the limited 2012 and live it. I concurr.
I have a 4-cylinder Toyota with no snow tires. I handle winter fine.
I have a corolla w/out snow tires and mine handles like crap in the winter.
Nothing is more important than snow tires in the winter. I have driven sports cars basically every winter, and with snow tires I never once had an issue, and always felt more in control compared to driving my wife's SUV with regular tires.
I work for pep boys and i can tell you all of the outside reps and members of coorperate drive ford fusions. Very reliable and easy and affordable to find parts for if a repair is needed. Also i have never heard about a complaint from any of them. Trust me if they were not up to par i would be the first to hear of it. Also gets good gas mileage for a full size sedan.
I have 2011 fusion sport plenty of power lots of features for the money get around 31mpg on the highway! Is available in both fwd and awd worth atleast taking a test drive! I love mine
I'm travel MI OH IN PA and dig my Fusion 35+ mpg on the highway.
I have multiple firends with Fusions 2009, 10, and 11 and they all love them. I am considering trying to get my hands on a '09 or '10 for the right price. Ford has really stepped up its game the last handful of years. The 2013 Fusion looks pretty darn cool http://www.ford.com/cars/fusion/2013/?searchid=64584805|2733078685|19403514847
I'm 6'3" 250# and I fit just fine in my Fusion (equipped with a sunroof).
Test drove a base (SE) 2012 Fusion in March. I did not like it. I'm 6'7" and I fit in it like crap. My knees hit the dash and the power was pretty lousy. I test drove a 2012 Malibu and wound up buying one. I fit in it pretty well (at least my shoulders don't hit the B pillar, my knees don't hit the dash. and my head doesn't hit the roof. My 2.5 year old fits in behind me in his car seat and the gas milage is great (34mpg). You have to really look hard to find one now as they started the 2013 models in March. Been very happy with it so far, but I haven't had a winter in it yet.
If your serious bout getting one keep in mind body syles changed from '09 - '10! a friend of mine drove my car loved it so he went and bought a used one '09 sel 5-spd its pretty quick but my '11 sport ate him up now he wishes he wouldve spent a few dollars more to get A: the newer body style and B: A Sport model! But you should test them all out before buying! Good Luck!!
Hyundai Sonata with a good set of tires. Last weekend, I went from GR to Taylor and back and to work (around 60 miles roundtrip) 3 days on one tank. I averaged 38.8 MPG all highway. I have leased a Subaru Legacy and Nissan Altima and really liked them both but the Sonata is an awesome ride. Best bang for your buck and the best MPG in its class. I also work for a tier one automotive supplier and Hyundai is scaring Toyota/Honda to death...FWIW. Give Hyundai a look.
The 16 y.o. neighbor decided to total my car when it was sitting in the street. In 4 houses he got going fast enough to do about $6k worth of damage. (It was midnight, his girlfriend was with him and he didn't hit the car about 40' behind mine... don't know what the g/f was doing to him.)
Anyway, we went out and bought a brand new Kia Optima SX-L with the everything. Paddle shifters, 6 speed transmission, 280hp turbo 4 which gets 34 MPG highway, navigation, panoramic roof, new leather in the Limited is like butter... It's pretty awesome.
I haven't driven it much (it's still only got like 400 miles on it) but my wife raves about it. I'd rave about it if I were allowed to drive it. Corners like a dream, tight and firm, but handles bumps nicely. Goes over 20MPH speed bumps at 45 without bottoming out or making you feel like you're riding on rails. Don't know about snow handling yet.... But man, does it handle nice in the dry.
I'm going with road beej.
My wife drives a 2012 Ford Taurus 60 miles a day (mostly highway) and loves the car. It's very comfortable, powerful, good in the snow and actually gets pretty good gas mileage and would get even better if she kept it under 80.
I was hoping that my fellow UM fans would demonstrate a propensity to purchase products from our domestic manufacturers. Oh well. Ahh well. Guess I will just go have a Bud. At least they are still American.
Buy GM. I would love the Overtime
Budweiser sold out to the Belgians several years ago bro. . . .
I will reccomend a sarcasm detector for ya
Not trying to come off as a dick but I guess it would help knowing your price range is. Also, are you looking to buy used or new? How many miles would you like the car to have? What year? How concerned are you about fuel efficiency?....Just from my experience, I had an Acura RL all wheel drive the last two years that did just fine in the snow. I actually had a better experience driving that in the snow than a Ford Expedition. I also like the Toyota 4runners or the Land Over Freelanders or Discoverys.
Only advice I'll give for your car search is to stay away from any car where the transmission is CVT. It sounded like a great idea on paper, but I've spent the past 2 years grumbling about how much I hate it.
Altima? Hated my CVT.
I have an 2008 Altima, and I find no problem with the cvt.
1) Price range
3) Type: SUV, sedan, truck, etc
4) Passenger capabilities: How many do you need to carry
5) Lifestyle: Towing, hauling, carrying, etc.
I am one of those guys who seriously researches my vehicle before I purchase. I never go on emotion and I am extremely patient. I value functionality and ROI over all else. Through personal use and work I have purchased numerous trucks, SUVs and mini-vans and can offer serious advice if you are seeking something in one of those categories.
with Ecoboost. Will never drive a car again.
(unless gas goes over $4 permanently, in which case I'm broke)
I can't help you with the winter stuff, but I'm an outside sales rep and I just bought the Prius V. I get a car allowance and then 50 cents per mile, so the better mileage I get, the more of that I get to pocket. And the new Priuses are super nice, I feel like I'm driving a luxury car. If you put in a lot of miles, a hybrid is a good option.
for a Michigan winter.
Big fan of the Honda Accord. Have a 2012 and really like it. Winter driving from Brighton to A2 with no problems. Good gas mileage, 5 passenger, roomy, large trunk and great power. Give it a look.
and it does just fine.
We're picking up a new Altima for my wife this week or next. She's going from her Jeep back to a car because the Jeep is SOOOO thirsty and we don't need as much room now tht my daughter is older.
Hope it goes well. We have a LEAF and a G37x. Love them both!
Mazda, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Hyundai. Only smart choices if you are looking for reliability and good mileage IMO. Sorry Detroit.
#1 - Please provide with facts, not personal opinion.
#2 - As a GM employee, I am pretty disappointed with the lack of support of American made cars, as opposed to foreign cars. Especially on a Michigan website.
#3 - Please excuse me for being a dick, I'm enjoying my Summer Shandy for as much as possible until it is taken off the shelves.
#4 - Go Blue.
The OP asked for opinions and I gave mine. I've always bought American and IMO they all had major flaws and/or major mechanical issues. My opinion, like the OP asked.
Some others opinions.
Cheers and Go Blue!
Fair enough. Everyone has their own opinion and I can respect that.