Kiss of Death at ND. Charlie
Pisses me off,
that even though it took you the better part of one minute to post this reply, you still beat me.
Imagine the drawer in South Bend that has copies of all of the old contracts. Gerry Faust. Bob Davie. Ty Willingham. George O'Leary. Charlie Weis. Charlie Weis/Extension.
O'Leary
Wasn't he the guy who got busted for falsifying his credentials? One in an endless stream of bad hires by ND.
I'm pretty sure...
...O'Leary's contract wasn't around long enough to get filed.
As a matter of fact I like beer.
That was a comical move that
That was a comical move that was so beyond stupid, even I was surprised they did that. ND gave Weis a contract extension only 6 games into his first season. And the rest of the world just smiled and couldn't wait for that to explode in ND's face, which it did.
This is all moot with Kelly. I don't think his blood pressure could survive an extra two years.
Go Blue! Always!
somewhere in vegas
someone is assembling the under/over for that and other related questions. Those of us who do not gamble can just relish the notion of all the extra cash ND will be out when they fire him sooner.
WHAAAAAAAAAATTT!!?!!?
WHAAAAAAAAAATTT!!?!!?
Probably to combat the "Kelly on hot seat" rumors
and help recruiting. I guess you should always have your coach locked in for 4 years, to prove to recruits that he'll stay.
"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt
This.
They were just talking about them doing this with Mack Brown for this reason on Espn the other day.
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
Not sure what to make of
Not sure what to make of that. I can't believe that ND was in any danger of losing him.
If you don't ride a camel, you ain't shi'ite.
Nothing losing won't fix
A two year coontract extension, is nothing that losing 5 games, and a 4th straight loss to Michigan won't fix.
Does this even mean anything
Does this even mean anything anymore? Coaches get extensions and get fired before the end of their contract all the time. Plus, since it is a private school none of the details of the contract are public, so we don't know what kind of out-clauses are within either party's options.
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
Great point. It might not
Great point. It might not involve any extra guaranteed money should he be fired before 2016. It might be for recruiting purposes only.
I just like ur name and now I have a craving for raw jelly beans
And I like your avatar. "I'll
And I like your avatar. "I'll just be over here putting out the vibe."
"I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy."
For The Appearance Of Stability...
....this is a customary move at Notre Dame. For some reason, I doubt they've grown comfotable in their 8-4-ness. That wouldn't indicate a "return to glory", right?
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
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Unless they increased the buy-out or something
this is probably just a recruiting move.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
10 replies and no purple face
10 replies and no purple face photo?
There needs to be a Godwin's law for threads about Brian Kelly.
You called?
purple face
what the #*?! is a grimace?
I never understood why
I never understood why McDonald's named a blob with a huge grin on his face "Grimace."
because he used to be evil.
because he used to be evil. (seriously. google it.)
RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.
Welp
it's too bad that Nick Saban thing didn't work out for them.
Also
Bob Stoops, Urban Meyer, Jon Gruden, Bill Belichick, Phil Jackson, or Earl Weaver.
"I'm here with my friend, the zombie, Johnathon. Michigan is in the Final Four for the first time in 20 years, what do you think?"
"I like turtles."
Saban must be crushed. I bet
Saban must be crushed. I bet he's crying into his national championship bonus right about now.
Michigan Resurgent? Michigan Resurgent!
The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!
Doesn't matter if they sign
Doesn't matter if they sign him for 20 yrs. He will get fired 2yrs. The end of red face Kelly
'Try growing up in Texas a Michigan WOLVERINE'.
ND could go 5-7 next year....
| Sept. 1 | Navy (Dublin, Ireland) (most likely a) WIN | |
| Sept. 8 | PURDUE (potential) WIN | |
| Sept. 15 | at Michigan State LOSS | |
| Sept. 22 | MICHIGAN LOSS | |
| Sept. 29 | Open Date | |
| Oct. 6 | MIAMI (Soldier Field, Chicago) LOSS | |
| Oct. 13 | STANFORD (possible) LOSS | |
| Oct. 20 | BYU (possible) LOSS | |
| Oct. 27 | at Oklahoma LOSS | |
| Nov. 3 | PITTSBURGH WIN | |
| Nov. 10 | at Boston College (most likely a) WIN | |
| Nov. 17 | WAKE FOREST (most likely a) WIN | |
| Nov. 24 | at USC LOSS |
They have no identity on offense. They are losing their best received. Their star TE is coming back but they do not have a legit QB, unless one emerges. Their O-line is mehhh. The D is decent. Their schedule is not easy. I thin it is highly unlikely that they will go 5-7, but it is possible. I am leaning toward 7-5/8-4
Both Michigan schools,
Both Michigan schools, Stanford, Oklahoma and USC are 5 pretty challeging games. Quite a few others are not gimmes either. I can see is facing being purple many times next year.
ND vs. Navy
Go Navy, Beat Notre Dame.
wouldn't it be funny as all hell to see the "Fighting Irish" lose in Ireland. That is what they get for being named after a French cathedral.
that state south-east of Meechigan should be leveled and turned into a parking lot.
Erm... ND isn't a gimme win
Erm... ND isn't a gimme win for us. It's still the same D that stoned us for 3 quarters - minus Gary Gray who was toasted for 3 of our scores, and it's at Notre Dame. We will be a better team than the team we are at UTL, but I'm not stamping this one as a surefire M win.
(Especially if we enter the game as the favorite - traditionally the kiss of death in this series)
Former Buckeye Antonio Pittman on being a poster child for compliance: "This osu tattoo stuff is silly. Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01."
Not saying it's a gimme...
But they lose a lot more than Gary Gray
http://mgoblog.com/diaries/2012-opponents-returning-starters-why-schedule-isnt-tough-it-appears
They lose:
That's their entire secondary and probably their best D-Lineman.
Their D will be pretty good.
Their D will be pretty good. Slaughter can come back for a 5th year and Ethan Johnson had 14 tackles and 0 sacks for the year. True frosh Lynch had 33 tackles, 5.5 sacks.
Losing Gary Gray is probably
Losing Gary Gray is probably a good thing for ND, though.
Former Buckeye Antonio Pittman on being a poster child for compliance: "This osu tattoo stuff is silly. Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01."
doubling down
on a bad bet. Half of wealthy alumni jump out of windows in their penthouses, half grit their teeth.
This one is interesting...
I can't stand this purple faced asshat who singles out players and denies responsibility. However, an unbiased observer might have to agree with his point that "he" and "his recruits" are not responsible for the team's ailments this year...Lynch, Tuitt, Atkinson and Ishaq seem to be beasts that don't care about the pressure the typical ND student feels - which is the only reason I can think of for everyone else on that team turning the ball over in the red zone.
I think ND's alumni is the ultimate problem though, and the purple nurple won't have enough time to get his recruits in every position before getting the boot.
they realized they'd be committing themselves to an endless cycle of self destruction if they fired him after 3 years. nd can't seem to realize they can't win nc's every year, despite what lou holtz says.
but i'd bet this is a recruiting move, too.
It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk
Speaking of ND, here is some
Speaking of ND, here is some fantastic schadenfreude about our win over them:
http://ndnation.com/boards/showpost.php?b=football;pid=299299;d=this
obligatory photo
2 more years is good, perhaps
2 more years is good, perhaps he will turn more purple with age, like a fine wine?
I still think Kelly will be a success at ND
but I hope I'm completely wrong.
There will be players who go
There will be players who go to ND simply because it's ND (Rudy factor, alumni, and legacy factor, etc).
But the word is out nationally now (just not regionally) that Brian Kelly is a bigger prick than Nick Saban. I cannot see him lasting long term at ND.
Maybe they're thinking Kelly = Holtz?
Kelly's back to back 8-5 seasons are actually far better than Holtz's 5-6 and 8-4 seasons his first two years. Plus Kelly has done reasonably well in recruiting his first 3 years (19th, 8th and 9th according to Scout.com).
I think if Kelly goes 9-3 on average at ND and wins bowl games from here on out, then he's probably safe (as Lloyd Carr was at Michigan doing the same for so many years).
I may be wrong, but I don't
I may be wrong, but I don't think Gerry Faust (Holtz's predecessor) recruited the same caliber of talent that Charlie Weis did. Kelly's had a lot to work with so far. He may have had to change a losing culture, but as far as personnel's gone, he's been in good shape.
I don't think you can compare him to Carr. Carr's national title made him bulletproof. Without the '97 season, it might have been another story.
This is my shocked face
"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"
posted from iPhone
Must be Dee Hart.
I agree with the move...
With the apparent widening chasm among the ND alums and fanbase (sound familiar?), ND had to either demonstrate that they would give Kelly the time he needs to succeed as he wants to at ND or get rid of him.
ND did the right thing. I still think Kelly is their best chance at a National Championship since Holtz left. Also, the whole Kelly/Irish thing makes for a lot of fun in the media once he becomes successful.
I also agree .
He's a great coach ...I know he takes some shots here and that's to be expected,but good move for them...(Brian Kelly fan,not ND fan)
Go Blue !!
well he's not Charlie Weis
well he's not Charlie Weis and they must like that
Hahaha first
Hahaha first Charlie Weis, then Brian Kelly. At least ND hangs onto (or at least, guarantees to pay) its coaches for a while before canning them for their inevitable disappointment to only one of the most demanding standards in college football*
*Not to be the pot calling the kettle black (aka a standard not much unlike our own), the difference, and why we can laugh, is because we can fairly comfortably say that, at this point (from both wins based on sound coaching and season-long improvement further indicating good player development, in addition to recruiting success) it appears we've found our 1-in-a-million 'second-coming-of-Bo' kind of coach who actually meets this golden standard.
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Kiss of Death at ND. Charlie Weis was signed through 2015. Ruh Roh!
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