OT: Breaking News - Cabrera and DUI
97.1 and 1130 are both reporting breaking news that Miguel Cabrera was arrested last night: DUI and resisting arrest. Not good.
Nothing yet on freep.com or detnews.com.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:00 AM ^
Glad to hear he is reformed from two years ago.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:31 AM ^
Alcoholism is a disease. You don't just decide one day to stop and then never think about it again. He'll fight it for the rest of his life.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:53 AM ^
I agree it is a disease, one that is self inflicted and deserves little sympathy as a result. I am a recovering smoker and deserve no sympathy for my choice to become addicted either. Hopefully Miggy can get on the straight and narrow before the problem destroys his career.
Maybe he should stop driving and beating up his girl while imbibing in the meantime though.
February 17th, 2011 at 11:00 AM ^
the incident with his girl had no proof of him hitting her, in fact he was the one with all the bruises .... not defending him having a .3 at the time but i believe the reason no charges were filled was because it looks like he never actually hit her, he was taken to the drunk tank and then released ... this is not a trival difference,
however, he still needs to get back on the straight and narrow
February 17th, 2011 at 11:05 AM ^
I don't buy the "alcoholism is a disease that never goes away" line at all. Anyone who honestly believes this to be the case is just weak willed, and needs something to justify the fact that they are unable to stop drinking.
February 17th, 2011 at 11:27 AM ^
Cue up the 30 minutes that South Park dedicated to agreeing with your point.
I also agree. Addictive behavior is not a disease. It's just who some poeple are. Either they overcome it, or they die at a young(ish) age. It's that simple.
February 17th, 2011 at 12:51 PM ^
And with that, Trey Parker and Matt Stone extended their lead as history's most sanctimonious pricks to ever base an entire career upon calling other people sanctimonious pricks.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:01 PM ^
Yes addiction becomes a disease because your body stops producing chemicals that the drugs give you and hence you become very dependent on it. Some of it is lack of will but the body needs these chemical balances and it isnt fair to say that it is completely their fault they cant stop.
February 17th, 2011 at 12:03 PM ^
This is the stupidest thing I've ever read on MGoBlog.
February 17th, 2011 at 12:58 PM ^
So Tiger Woods' addiction to poonanner is going to haunt him for the rest of his life as well?
P.S. If that's the stupidest thing you've ever read on MGoBlog then you don't follow this site closely.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:18 PM ^
When did I say anything about Tiger Woods? If you're going to debate at least stick to the topic at hand.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^
Yes, because I was clearly trying to add something to the debate with my mention of poonanner. Attempt at humor clearly missed by you, and seeing as nobody else is ripping me for being stupid, logic says that you are the stupid one. Good day sir.
February 17th, 2011 at 12:58 PM ^
This amuses me, only because you are the one who said it.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:09 PM ^
Most of the stupidest stuff I've read on here have been said by you, Larry Harrison.
Alcoholism is not a disease, it is a problem. Cancer is a disease, so is Parkinson's. Alcohilism is a problem - it is both afflicted and remedied merely by the behavior of the person who has it. Trust me, I bet you any cancer patient would love to get rid of their cancer by going to a series of meeting or, gulp, having some will power.
I have a lot of people close to be who are alcoholics. Hell, I drink a lot. But when alcohol starts getting you into trouble, you've got no one to blame but yourself.
Don't get me wrong, I hope Miggy gets his life on track, he's one of my favorite Tigers. But some people can handle partying better than others, and he needs to realize that this is a problem and lay off the sauce.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:23 PM ^
February 17th, 2011 at 1:44 PM ^
By definition a cock is an adult male chicken or a rooster.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:59 PM ^
February 17th, 2011 at 2:00 PM ^
Thank you for understanding what I was going for there. Disease is a very vague definition that can be twisted to fit your fancy. I will go with calling it an addiction but a disease is something contracted in my book.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:16 PM ^
February 17th, 2011 at 2:46 PM ^
So it's "like" a disease, but not a disease in-and-of itself?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:53 PM ^
No. I believe it's definitely a disease. A disease that functions on a similar level as a cancer or virus. I am trying to illustrate my point using examples of afflictions that most people define as diseases.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:08 PM ^
Accepting alcoholism as a disease like cancer excuses it as being currently incurable. There have been and will be people who beat their addiction to alcohol. It is an addiction, but to state it as a disease I think is being too lenient with the person who has developed a dependence through years of relying on a substance.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:02 PM ^
Using his thought process then you could say that depression isn't a disease. To go even further it wouldn't surprise me to see him tell someone with severe depression to suck it up and stop feeling sorry for themselves. He has lost all credibility but he didn't have much to begin with.
February 18th, 2011 at 2:00 AM ^
Depression is not a disease. Depression is a symptom caused by a myriad of possible internal/external things.
You honestly have the most cloudy thought process of anyone on this board.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:58 PM ^
Most of the stupidest stuff I've read on here have been said by you, Larry Harrison.
I'm surprised you can read after seeing sentence fail such as that. Nice try, though. I look forward to hearing more from you. : )
February 17th, 2011 at 3:04 PM ^
To just get more points since negs don't work I'll post again. If you want to know if alcoholism is a disease call up the AMA. You lose.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:14 PM ^
For real? I've known alcoholics who've spent 3 months in jail and spend that time going through detox and getting sober and feeling great. They've even said they never want to drink again but they still end up drinking. It's not like, oh I guess I'm done drinking now. I'm sure Cabrera has been to AA and counseling, but all it takes is one drink to get you back on a binge. I'm not saying Cabrera should be let off the hook at all, but there's no such thing as a "cured" alcoholic, just a recovering alcoholic.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:02 AM ^
Glad he's getting Spring Training off on the right foot.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:04 AM ^
Had high hopes for this season. If he's done for year, so are they.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:11 AM ^
He's one of my protects in my fantasy league. I'm f*cked if he misses time.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:12 AM ^
and took a swig of it in front of the cop right on the side of the road. He must have been destroyed to do that!
February 17th, 2011 at 10:16 AM ^
February 17th, 2011 at 10:56 AM ^
at least he has good taste for the finer whiskeys (James Buchanan). I would take a pull too, instead of having the cop dump it out. I just hope it was a Highland Single Malt.
I did that when I was young and underage. I was at a party and the cop caught me with a beer in my hand. I took a huge pull and told him it was water. The ticket got thrown out because the cop could not identify what was in the can. Now days they just give the kids a breathalyzer and call it good.
February 17th, 2011 at 11:19 AM ^
Its a good idea.
If you take a drink they cant give you a breathalyzer right then because the alcohol is in your mouth, that gives him time to come down a bit before they can actually test his level.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:11 PM ^
I've actually heard of people doing this.
They keep a shooter of alcohol in their glove compartment at all times. If they ever get pulled over while under the influence, the idea is to clearly remove the keys from the ignition and drink the shooter while the cop is watching. This way, the cop can't actually prove that you consumed alcohol before getting behind the wheel.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:55 AM ^
Google Map the address. Does he live in an apartment complex?? The hell?
February 17th, 2011 at 10:18 AM ^
3-4 knee spikes to my thigh would definitely make me comply.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:15 AM ^
That is really disappointing. I thought he grew up and his play last year reflected that. That is really unfortunate.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:16 AM ^
Unless the Tigers suspend him, it seems unlikely he'd miss time (except perhaps to attend a court hearing of some sort at some point). On the baseball front, the bigger concern is that he'll be more erratic/less reliable if he's back on the sauce.
On the personal front, though, this really sucks -- for him, the people who were putting their trust in him, and the people he endangered while driving drunk.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:36 AM ^
if erratic and less reliable means .300 BA/30 plus HR/100 plus RBI then drinking doesn't affect Cabrera's game at all. His stats has been consistently good every year.
Still, I hope that he is okay and should go to alcohol abuse rehab to better himself.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:20 AM ^
I still dont get it...if I make a bazillion dollars you can bet your ass I'm paying so lowlife from HS that I hated to drive my ass around and call me Sir and whipes my feet before I get into my Bentley as I just had that Ostrich cleaned son.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:22 AM ^
To this day I will never understand why a person like him making millions of dollars would not pay for a cab ride home. This is just disappointing.
I think he does need to be reprimanded in some way, but I don't think over the long run it'll affect his performance for the year as long as the right action is taken to help him as well.
February 17th, 2011 at 11:10 AM ^
When you're shitbombed enough to take a pull of scotch right in front of a cop after you say "do you know who I am"...he probably wasn't thinking clearly enough to have someone drive.
This is sad, the guy is my favorite player and an immense talent. This is NOT good and a horrible way to start the season. It was ballsy taking a swig of scotch in a cops face after being confronted and that makes part of me laugh inside...But not good in the big picture
February 17th, 2011 at 9:32 AM ^
I'm not sure I see what the problem is...scotch is awesome! Cabrera is gonna own the MVP this year!
February 17th, 2011 at 9:51 AM ^
"I love scotch. Scotchy, scotch, scotch. Here it goes down, down into my belly ..."
February 17th, 2011 at 9:35 AM ^
I really thought he had this all behind him
fell bad for him, baseball is small compared to whatever demons he is facing