OT: Breaking News - Cabrera and DUI

Submitted by UM4ME on

97.1 and 1130 are both reporting breaking news that Miguel Cabrera was arrested last night: DUI and resisting arrest. Not good.

Nothing yet on freep.com or detnews.com.

Lordfoul

February 17th, 2011 at 10:53 AM ^

I agree it is a disease, one that is self inflicted and deserves little sympathy as a result.  I am a recovering smoker and deserve no sympathy for my choice to become addicted either.  Hopefully Miggy can get on the straight and narrow before the problem destroys his career.

Maybe he should stop driving and beating up his girl while imbibing in the meantime though.

hailtothevictors08

February 17th, 2011 at 11:00 AM ^

the incident with his girl had no proof of him hitting her, in fact he was the one with all the bruises .... not defending him having a .3 at the time but i believe the reason no charges were filled was because it looks like he never actually hit her, he was taken to the drunk tank and then released ... this is not a trival difference,

 

however, he still needs to get back on the straight and narrow

Beavis

February 17th, 2011 at 11:27 AM ^

Cue up the 30 minutes that South Park dedicated to agreeing with your point.

I also agree.  Addictive behavior is not a disease.  It's just who some poeple are.  Either they overcome it, or they die at a young(ish) age.  It's that simple. 

 

Litt1e Rhino

February 17th, 2011 at 2:01 PM ^

Yes addiction becomes a disease because your body stops producing chemicals that the drugs give you and hence you become very dependent on it. Some of it is lack of will but the body needs these chemical balances and it isnt fair to say that it is completely their fault they cant stop. 

WolvinLA2

February 17th, 2011 at 1:09 PM ^

Most of the stupidest stuff I've read on here have been said by you, Larry Harrison.

Alcoholism is not a disease, it is a problem.  Cancer is a disease, so is Parkinson's.  Alcohilism is a problem - it is both afflicted and remedied merely by the behavior of the person who has it.  Trust me, I bet you any cancer patient would love to get rid of their cancer by going to a series of meeting or, gulp, having some will power.

I have a lot of people close to be who are alcoholics.  Hell, I drink a lot.  But when alcohol starts getting you into trouble, you've got no one to blame but yourself. 

Don't get me wrong, I hope Miggy gets his life on track, he's one of my favorite Tigers.  But some people can handle partying better than others, and he needs to realize that this is a problem and lay off the sauce.

JBE

February 17th, 2011 at 1:23 PM ^

Your definition of disease is far more specific than the accepted definition of disease. It is impairment of both health and condition. An impairment of condition includes alcohol consumption, and thus alcoholism is a disease of a prolonged impaired condition.

JBE

February 17th, 2011 at 1:59 PM ^

And a cock is not a male chicken or a rooster? If disease is slang for simply an uncontrollable body health condition please let me know. Otherwise, definitions are a good starting place in understanding the ideas behind words, and disease is a very vague idea defined in very vague words. To say that one knows the exact nature of what disease is, is to deny the fact that we can never know the exact nature of any idea.

JBE

February 17th, 2011 at 2:16 PM ^

And I will go ahead and say that alcoholism is a disease. Not because it falls within defined guidelines of a disease, but because my experience has shown that it kills people in the same way diseases such as cancer do - by an uncontrollable slow eating of the mind and body. I know you didn't do this, but to pawn it off as a mere problem, of will power or choice or otherwise, is to simplify a very complicated and detrimental affliction. Alcohol infects the host, and tears it apart systematically, much like an incurable virus would.

MGoChippewa

February 17th, 2011 at 3:08 PM ^

Accepting alcoholism as a disease like cancer excuses it as being currently incurable.  There have been and will be people who beat their addiction to alcohol.  It is an addiction, but to state it as a disease I think is being too lenient with the person who has developed a dependence through years of relying on a substance.

LarryHarrison

February 17th, 2011 at 3:02 PM ^

Using his thought process then you could say that depression isn't a disease. To go even further it wouldn't surprise me to see him tell someone with severe depression to suck it up and stop feeling sorry for themselves. He has lost all credibility but he didn't have much to begin with.

sarto1g

February 17th, 2011 at 3:14 PM ^

For real?  I've known alcoholics who've spent 3 months in jail and spend that time going through detox and getting sober and feeling great.  They've even said they never want to drink again but they still end up drinking.  It's not like, oh I guess I'm done drinking now.  I'm sure Cabrera has been to AA and counseling, but all it takes is one drink to get you back on a binge.  I'm not saying Cabrera should be let off the hook at all, but there's no such thing as a "cured" alcoholic, just a recovering alcoholic. 

MGoSoftball

February 17th, 2011 at 10:56 AM ^

at least he has good taste for the finer whiskeys (James Buchanan). I would take a pull too, instead of having the cop dump it out. I just hope it was a Highland Single Malt.

 

I did that when I was young and underage. I was at a party and the cop caught me with a beer in my hand. I took a huge pull and told him it was water. The ticket got thrown out because the cop could not identify what was in the can. Now days they just give the kids a breathalyzer and call it good.

aaamichfan

February 17th, 2011 at 2:11 PM ^

I've actually heard of people doing this. 

They keep a shooter of alcohol in their glove compartment at all times. If they ever get pulled over while under the influence, the idea is to clearly remove the keys from the ignition and drink the shooter while the cop is watching. This way, the cop can't actually prove that you consumed alcohol before getting behind the wheel.

Number 7

February 17th, 2011 at 9:16 AM ^

Unless the Tigers suspend him, it seems unlikely he'd miss time (except perhaps to attend a court hearing of some sort at some point).  On the baseball front, the bigger concern is that he'll be more erratic/less reliable if he's back on the sauce.

On the personal front, though, this really sucks -- for him, the people who were putting their trust in him, and the people he endangered while driving drunk.

thisisme08

February 17th, 2011 at 9:20 AM ^

I still dont get it...if I make a bazillion dollars you can bet your ass I'm paying so lowlife from HS that I hated to drive my ass around and call me Sir and whipes my feet before I get into my Bentley as I just had that Ostrich cleaned son.

Plegerize

February 17th, 2011 at 9:22 AM ^

To this day I will never understand why a person like him making millions of dollars would not pay for a cab ride home. This is just disappointing.

I think he does need to be reprimanded in some way, but I don't think over the long run it'll affect his performance for the year as long as the right action is taken to help him as well.

bing24

February 17th, 2011 at 11:10 AM ^

When you're shitbombed enough to take a pull of scotch right in front of a cop after you say "do you know who I am"...he probably wasn't thinking clearly enough to have someone drive.

This is sad, the guy is my favorite player and an immense talent. This is NOT good and a horrible way to start the season. It was ballsy taking a swig of scotch in a cops face after being confronted and that makes part of me laugh inside...But not good in the big picture