OT - Brandon Willis (Tennessee EE) Enrolls at UNC

Submitted by Clarence Beeks on
This is OT, but not because of the question that it raises. The back story is this: Willis was on campus in Knoxville and was going to start class at Tennessee today. Kiffin leaves. Willis decommits and commits to UNC and enrolls as an EE. Now, the question: can someone tell me how in the world that someone goes from being enrolled at Tennessee to being enrolled at UNC in less than 12 hours? I mean, I'm sure I'm not the only one who had to APPLY to college and be ACCEPTED before I could ENROLL and that entire process definitely didn't happen in less than 12 hours. The whole Kiffin situation has stink written all over it, but so does this move by UNC. http://www.goupstate.com/article/20100113/NEWS/100119899/1112?Title=Bra…

mscharbo15

January 13th, 2010 at 5:29 PM ^

A lot of kids previously apply to and have the early enrollment option for their top 2-3 choices, so something drastic doesn't prevent them from getting a head start on their career. This isn't slimy at all.

Adrian

January 13th, 2010 at 5:32 PM ^

Some of the commits that enrolled got screwed over. The AD told them since they were already on campus they were already enrolled. I will try to link the story on here I cant find it at the moment.

fleetwoodzback

January 13th, 2010 at 5:45 PM ^

this was mentioned today during the press conference by AD Mike Hamilton and in his words the kids that were enrolled as of midnight this morning are considered enrolled at UT and would have to go through the normal transfer process and have to sit out a year. i am looking for a link to this as well.

mgowin

January 14th, 2010 at 2:11 AM ^

Here is the press conference. The quote on the EE students is cut from the interview. To paraphrase Hamilton he stated that at 12:01 on Wed (first day of classes) the students had matriculated to the university. That answer was in response to a local media member asking Hamilton about the rumor that coach O was calling players and telling them to not attend classes. Hamilton said that coach O needed to check his rulebook regarding enrollment criteria. http://utsports.tv/mens-sports/mike-hamilton-on-coaching-situation/

Clarence Beeks

January 14th, 2010 at 9:49 AM ^

It's apparently not as cut and dry as Hamilton would make it appear. The O.C. at Byrnes (who had two players, Willis and Miller, EE at Tennessee) was the head coach at I-AA Presbyterian for a few years ago. His take is different from Hamilton's: "There are two sides to the NCAA rules in regards to the topic," said District 5 athletic director and Byrnes offensive coordinator Bobby Bentley, who spent two seasons as the head coach at Presbyterian College from 2007-08. "If an early enrollee signs a national letter of intent, then he is bound to the university. However, an early enrollee can not sign a letter of intent because it is prior to the National Signing Day of Feb 3. If he attends class, it is like signing with the institution. This is one reason why some coaches want an early signing period for football." http://www.goupstate.com/article/20100113/NEWS/100119898/1112 This is from an article about the other player (Miller), who stayed at UT, but didn't go to class because he's not sure if he's staying or not. If any of this is true, and what Hamilton said is not 100% accurate, what he's doing is also pretty shady.

Clarence Beeks

January 15th, 2010 at 1:39 PM ^

The SEC has now weighed in on this and Hamilton was wrong: "ESPN.com, however, reported that according to the Southeastern Conference office, Tennessee misinterpreted the rules by telling its early enrollees that they were bound to the university even though they had not attended classes, provided they were enrolled and on campus at 12:01 a.m. Wednesday." So according to the SEC the cut off is attending one class that matters. How many different takes are there on this from people who should apparently know? And also, to further back up my "Hamilton is shady" comment that drew some ire, I'll add this comment: "Hamilton told the Knoxville News Sentinel on Thursday that he had no intention of releasing the early enrollees." http://www.goupstate.com/article/20100114/NEWS/100119850/1112?Title=Ben…-

gater

January 13th, 2010 at 6:41 PM ^

Lucky for these kids, classes started today so if they acted fast (VERY fast) they could take a step back and reevaluate their situation.

ShockFX

January 13th, 2010 at 6:47 PM ^

The NCAA should just step up and offer to void the EE of any UT football player affected. It would be ridiculous not to.

bronxblue

January 13th, 2010 at 9:45 PM ^

This feels like a move that was in the works before Kiffin officially left - maybe Willis read the tea leaves and figured he should have a back-up option just in case. To a larger extent, I would like to know how the NCAA can square this type of situation with the antiquated notion that everyone who enrolls at a college to play sports is choosing the school and not the particular coaching staff. I understand that officially the players sign up for the school, and for some playing at UT is bigger than whoever is at the helm, but it seems illogical that kids are "trapped" at a school where they man who recruited them, and who they expected to play under, just ran off without much warning. I hope that one day the NCAA is forced to reevaluate its rules (probably will happen via a class-action lawsuit by some enterprising players) and grant current and incoming players the option for a "free" transfer without the usual penalties of lost eligibility.

gujd

January 13th, 2010 at 10:14 PM ^

That Kiffin and other coaches were telling players not to go class if they were EE as there is a gray area of whether being enrolled or attending class makes you officially in and subject to transfer rules.