OT: Boz and sweater vest part of 19 member College Football HOF class
I can understand Boz being inducted. Despite being selfish at OU to a certain degree, I think time has proven his claims against the ncaa as valid.
Now sweatervest on the other hand, I have no idea how he is deserving. The mans cover ups were ethically suspect at best borderline criminal at worst. He's sacrificed players futures to save himself (Clarett and rb that transferred to MD). Beyond his lack of fashion sense and the fact that he coached at ohio, I have absolutely no respect for him. He is a politician with a whistle.
End rant.
January 9th, 2015 at 11:36 AM ^
It's the NCAA we all know it's a joke
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January 9th, 2015 at 11:40 AM ^
Does the NCAA actually have a say in this or is it a separate entity?
January 9th, 2015 at 11:41 AM ^
In the event anyone here has not seen it (I suspect most of you have), the "30 For 30" which revolves around the career of Brian Bosworth is actually a rather fascinating one, in my opinion. It talks a lot about his relationship with Barry Switzer, the development of "The Boz" as a persona, and lessons he has learned looking back at all of it. Worth the time if you've not seen it.
January 9th, 2015 at 12:40 PM ^
That was a great documentary. Really changed my opinion of him, I was happy I watched it.
January 9th, 2015 at 1:23 PM ^
That's probably one of my favourite episodes. Eye opening and his play by play to his son in the storage unit was pretty insightful as well.
January 9th, 2015 at 11:42 AM ^
If your coaching career ends in the midst of a NCAA "investigation", something is f'd up.
January 9th, 2015 at 1:55 PM ^
His show-cause is over next year and he's 62. I wouldn't bet against him coaching again. Maybe a middle-tier Power 5 program that wants to move up in the world?
January 9th, 2015 at 2:02 PM ^
Tressel is the president at Youngstown State these days, I'd bet he's more likely to get into politics than coach again.
January 9th, 2015 at 11:45 AM ^
I don't know. The history of college football is filled with "cheaters" in the sense that players have been paid for service. Since I tend to think players should be paid for service I have a hard time contempting the guys who got caught doing it.
In my opinion steriods are a bigger issue since they have a possible negative health impact but the fact that steroids were/are so loosely inforced makes it kind of hard to condemn the guys who actually got caught.
A case could be made either way...
January 9th, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^
It's not just the cheating that bothers me. Really because the NCAA lacks uniformed enforcement and is inherently flawed fo the point where "rules" are little more than suggestions or weak guidelines. You need to have rules to skirt to cheat.
Tressel bothers be because he wrapped himself in this cloak of righteousness and negatively impacted the lives of those "young people" under his care, while profiting off of their talents.
He pretty much embodies the ncaa. I love college athletics, but despise the ncaa.
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January 9th, 2015 at 1:20 PM ^
Where are you coming up with this notion that Tress "sacrificed" certain players for his own good and that he negatively impacted the lives of the "young people" under his care?
January 9th, 2015 at 2:10 PM ^
Sammy Maladono and Maurice Clarett are two quick examples
January 9th, 2015 at 2:31 PM ^
Tressel ruined a kid's life because he came into a program and wanted to play the guys he recruited and not play a kid who called himself a "pain in the ass" and told people that he was not used to not getting his way? And last time I checked, Clarett admitted to bringing his troubles upon himself and he and Tress have quite a good relationship. Not sure why he would view Tress as a friend if Tress ruined his life...
January 9th, 2015 at 2:46 PM ^
By the way,Troy Smith's *falling on the sword*...look past that?
http://www.toledoblade.com/sports/2011/05/31/The-rise-and-fall-of-Jim-T…
January 9th, 2015 at 3:01 PM ^
I didn't say that he had no wrongdoings. I just don't understand the argument that he ruined kids lives. And how did Troy Smith fall on the sword? He committed an NCAA infraction, got suspended, came back and won the Heisman? If he was so awful to his players, where are all of the complaints? Would his former players be carrying him off the field? The man had flaws but has been a positive influence for many men.
January 9th, 2015 at 11:47 AM ^
Why is it acceptable that Bosworth, a guy ran out of college football for steriod use, is inducted but it's an outrage for Tressel? A cheater is a cheater.
January 9th, 2015 at 11:50 AM ^
Pete Rose is probably thinking he should have played football
January 9th, 2015 at 11:51 AM ^
This leads to the obvious conclusion that there is a single criterion required for CFHOF: on-field results. Boz was a great college player, but also a poster boy for PEDs before that acronym even existed. The Vest was hugely successful at both YSU and OSU, yet dragged both programs through the mud--and if the NCAA had subpoena power, OSU would still be suffering from the harshest sanctions since SMU thanks to His Vestness. Given the parody of itself that the NCAA has become, this is not the least bit surprising.
January 9th, 2015 at 11:57 AM ^
I suggest you stop obsessing about Tressel. He's long gone and is never coming back. It was brutal losing nine times to that cheating bastard, but move on.
January 9th, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^
Sounds about right. What else would you expect from a sport in which known scumbags like Butch Davis are rewarded with cushy network jobs. The level of hypocrisy exhibited the NCAA and ESPN never ceases to amaze. Just win, baby.
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January 9th, 2015 at 12:13 PM ^
is worthy of such an achievement. .
January 9th, 2015 at 12:14 PM ^
that'd be like putting Jeff Skilling in the business Hall of Fame
January 9th, 2015 at 1:17 PM ^
The Hall of Fame has actually said that Tressel is going in for his Youngstown State career, because he didn't break the rules there. Which is hilarious, because he did.
I think the CFB Hall of Fame spokesman should go into the gymnastics hall of fame for those mental excersises...
January 9th, 2015 at 1:51 PM ^
However,the DIRT on Tressel's vest says differently.
Wonder if Fish could comeback like vest,hoisted up on former players shoulders,paraded around Crisler as a *hero*?!
January 9th, 2015 at 2:38 PM ^
I never understood the hatred for Lloyd Carr that a lot of you have for him. Yes, he had a poor record vs. the sweater vest creep....however it has been proven that the creep was cheating and paying his players, turning his back on major NCAA violations etc. Carr dominated everyone else in the BT.
January 9th, 2015 at 8:45 PM ^
Lloyd didn't lose to Tressel because some of his players took some cash and tattoos. They lost because Tressel's teams were more prepared nearly every time the two teams played each other.
January 9th, 2015 at 4:52 PM ^
When Craig James kills 5 hookers while at SMU, Tressel's cheating or The Boz's steroid abuse hardly seems egregious.