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OT: Best budget apps?
Swiss lose your 200 billion?
Hey, that is my line!!! [Wojo voice]
I DID NOTHING WRONG. IVE BEEN FALSELY ACCUSED
Poor budget management?
He doth protest too much
Dude just stop. This is why you got sent to Bolivia. Your lucky so far that your account hasn't been totally nuked.
Income minus expenses equals positive number then on the right track.
Try to make the number more positive by increasing income or decreasing expenses
Win the game
then you just borrow money you don't have from an institution that doesn't have any either (they just print it and pretend like it has some value) and keep barrelling forward.
What in the holy he** is wrong with your head You Only Live Thrice!! That is a ignorant comment that has nothing to do with the thread. What a waste of your life
of Hermes?
EveryDollar
There is a free version, and a pay version. The pay one links to your bank.
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YNAB (you need a budget) is great if you need the disciplined approach to give every dollar a job. My wife loves it.
Mint is more passive but also my preferred app.
I also recommend the Mint app
I've been using Mint for about 1.5 years now and it's pretty fantastic. As long as you're comfortable providing bank account details to a third party, which isn't everyone's cup of tea.
Mint is really good for budgeting.
Personal Capital, which I use, is good for seeing your asset allocation and investments.
It's a good app, but it can be SUPER depressing some months.
I also use a couple spreadsheets in Excel for custom things I want to track
Porn
beer.
Google calc...online free version of excel. There is nothing greater than spreadsheets learn to use them
Sure, anything Excel or Excel-related is all fun and games until you have to try and master the VLOOKUP function and accidentally reference the wrong column in a spreadsheet, then your entire budget is "N/A", but that's OK because in some months that is the correct answer anyway.
Vlookup?
Oh buddy are you going to be excited to learn about index(match...)
It’s all about the pivot table nowadays
Yeah but Pivot tables can't reference other files, you need to dump all the data in one spot, requires a lot of processing power
Try power query as it is a free add-on in Excel 2016, I love it!
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/introduction-to-microsoft-power...
Yeah but Pivot tables can't reference other files, you need to dump all the data in one spot, requires a lot of processing power
excel nerd +1
...of spreadsheet nerds just about perfectly correlates with baseball fans.
+1
Thanks, guys.
you should be able to export and checking or credit card statement to Excel and create you own categories to focus on the areas most realistic to control. if you want to get fancy, connect the raw Excel to Power BI. the apps are fine but I like the control and understanding of doing it yourself. it's not very hard if you know some basic Excel.
Is great
Easy to use and imports everything from your bank accounts
Is actually advice of "don't spend more than you make." You'll always come out ahead.
Leverage is the way to go
Life is best lived on OPM, Lever Up!
Certainly true!
Even better than "don't spend more than you make", is "learn to live poorly and happily."
My mother grew up extremely poor in Ireland, and even though she has a nice faculty position at the University, still takes the bus to work so she can read and say hi to the bus driver every day (my dads mad she only puts like 1500 miles/yr on the car he bought for her!).
Books are cheap and you can take you places no airline (or SpaceEx) can go. Musical instruments last forever, and you keep getting better with age, and the ladies seem to like it. Walks are free, and according to doctors the best medicine in the world. Dogs and cats have the highest guaranteed ROI on the planet according to my projections. And cooking your own food is both a joy, more delicious, and cheaper--plus its a great way to trick friends into coming over (restuarants and bars are great to become a regular at too, with moderation). Smiling and being friendly costs very little and makes you feel great.
Making money, saving and investing are necessary, and a fun game if thats what floats your boat (and there's nothing wrong with being a workaholic either), but sometimes it turns into "majoring in the minor things, and minoring in the major things", and "penny-wise, dollar-dumb", and people forget that the point of saving and investing is so you can be free to do what you want, by learning the value and power of both money (keyword: compound interest) and your own time that it takes to make it.
Thank you for this post! These are the kind of posts I love about Mgoblog.
Haters like to say he's too conservative, but he has an easy plan to follow that, if you stick to it, will see your net worth grow. It's really just common sense though.
yet his investing advice is too aggressive. he thinks asset allocation means different types of growth stock mutual funds, rather than stocks/bonds/cash. but his advice on debt is spot on. you need to attack that shit with an EUTM.
I think it's similar to Every Dollar. There are lots of options out there, and generally they are free for you to create a budget and track it manually. Mvelopes and Every Dollar both have paid memberships that will give you the ability to link your bank/credit accounts to the app and more easily track expenses.
Excel.
Honestly. Use it to map out your income and ALL your expenses, you can even add a running a calendar and program it to add on payday and subtract on the day payments are due,
I always agreed with this about Excel (and I’m really good with Excel), but when it comes to splitting receipts up (ie using a program that is dual budget and checking account/credit card ledger) there are easier options. Big fan of Moneydance.
yeah thats fair.
I keep a daily tracker in my head and debit my excel file at night. probably not ideal but its worked for me for years.
Just send me all of your financial information and passwords and I'll take care of it for you
I use Quicken for my accounts, but I also use an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of recurring bills. I use one checking account for bills only, and direct deposit a little more than the monthly bills total each month. Pay bills only from that account. The leftovers from each paycheck are dumped into a savings account (untouchable) and a second checking account for non-recurring expenses (eating out, a toy for the kid, whatever type miscellanous stuff). The spreadsheet was huge help in getting me out of some financial trouble - it shows you what your monthly obligations are and helps you plan out payments you can afford. It's easy to forecast, also, because those bill payments don't necessarily change and you see them in black and white.
One thing about budgets and thier apps - they do you nothing if you don't capture everything you spend. And you won't do that is you get cash from the ATM. Cash destroys budgets, because you don't track what you're spending it on.
Who uses cash though?
I honestly use cash a handful of times a year, and that not by choice, only if some wanker has a cash only business im stuck dealing with.
... best bang for your buck app. Potato Skins a close second.
I always am massively disappointed in potato skins - I find the ratio of potato remaining in the skin to other toppings tends to be off, which makes them much less tasty than they sound.
but they ate cheap!
Mint is pretty solid, but it lacks some thing. You can do it in personal capital which I like as an app more than mint. If you want to go old school with the “enevelope” style, then good budget is the way to go. You have to manually enter every transaction, but frankly with mint you have to constantly update the category so its a wash
YNAB!
Agree fully with this
YNAB is amazing, my wife and I have used it for the last 5+ years. It's great, I love being able to allocate money into categories and save for big purchases over several months.
However while I still recommend YNAB my understanding is that the latest version has a monthly fee. One of the nice things about YNAB is that it helps identify and cut out monthly expenses. A fee for YNAB itself seems counterintuitive.
Excel like others have said. I have a file set up on google sheets because wifey and I can access at any time from our phones, tablets and pc. I have tried mint and only stuck to it for three months. Changing the categories on the transactions every day was sorta daunting. I will say we were best at budgeting with the good ole envelope system. Something about dishing out the hard cash vs swiping a card made a weird difference in the amounts we spent. On second thought, maybe it’s the three kids we now have that make the difference. Things get a little nip and tuck at times now a days.
....but if you and the wifey share access, how do you manage your "fun" money???
/asking for a friend
While I do not use an app to create a budget, I would recommend Acorns, which automatically rounds up each purchase you make to the next dollar and invests it into an account of your choosing. In one month, I racked up $93.00 without feeling any pain of actually withdrawing $93.00. It just does it in the background, but you can see each transfer and turn off the “round ups” whenever you want.
Long time reader, first post. Felt compelled to bring up Prism Money - it's a bill aggregator where you can view and pay all of your bills, as well as budget. I'm one of the original workers at the company - if you like Mint, I think you'll love Prism Money better. We have thousands of customers writing that the app has saved their marriages, improved their credit score, and helped them out of debt. Plus, you'll get the satisfaction of knowing you're using an app worked on by a fellow Wolverine.
This is a good app. Thanks for the recommendation, I will definitely be using this from now on. It's way better than quicken imo.
We use YNAB. Before I used Excel, but keeping it up to date and have everyone use it was difficult. They are now using a subscription method which has a yearly fee. The customer service is great, the subscription comes with training sessions as well on not only how to use the app if you need it, but also on financial principles. It definitely made it easier for my wife and I to realize how much we waste money on stupid little things and allowed us to focus more on savings, investments, and debt paydown.
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Mint is a pretty good one