**EDIT** He was also ordered to undergo a "comprehensive behavioral evaluation." Until that evaluation is complete he won't be allowed to participate in any off season team activities. This also leaves the door open for his suspension to be reduced.
OT - Ben Roethlisberger suspended six games
Is it that hard to copy/paste his full name?
You've been a little grumpy lately.
Misspelling Roethlisberger is forgiveable.
even though, "prosecutors decided not to charge Roethlisberger"
That's crazy, according to the law, he didn't even commit a crime.
Just because he wasn't charged doesn't mean he's innocent; it only means that they didn't believe they could get a conviction given the evidence available to them. The girl was too drunk to give concrete testimony.
Also, the NFL personal conduct policy specifically states that not being charged with a crime is not enough to avoid punishment from the NFL.
No, according to the law, the government will presume him innocent until proven guilty. That does not imply that he never committed the crime.
If anything it would be Ben Roeth
Correct. My mistake. I hope any actual Ben Roths aren't getting bombarded with confusing emails as a result.
is your use of "leaving the door open" a pun in regards to his most recent trouble?
if so, +1
Her door was closed and he tried to force it open.
Maybe his name is Ben Rassholeberger?!?
When Pittsburgh starts out 0-2, I'll be waiting for the news about how well his behavioral evaluation turned out and how after lots of thought, the suspension was reduced to 3 or 4 games.
In other news Ben Roethlisberger was suspended 6 games by the NFL.
according to yahoo search this Ben Roth is some sort of designer or artist
6 games for what?
Violating a morality clause without a conviction for anything.
He was suspended not for his actions, but for getting bad press for the NFL. They protect the product.
NFL QB's shouldnt have to beg for sex
I'm not sure which way your going with that comment? Accounts didn't say that he begged, part of the reason he is in this predicament.
Its a business, if your employer found out you were named in 2 sexual assault cases in the past 2 years you would be fired to.
"there is nothing about your conduct in Milledgeville that can remotely be described as admirable"
I agree. That was a good line and I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Goodell.
He should be suspended for being a dipshit. He could go anywhere, and I do mean anywhere, in this town and get more ass than this entire board combined. And he chooses to act this way? Brilliant.
sexual assault is begging for sex, being turned down, and then begging turns into force
My point exactly BlueVoix, he walks into a bar or club and girls practically drop there pants for him, shouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence as sexual assault, he deosnt need to do it
Yup. Name off a neighborhood in PGH and Ben could have half the women there. Pittsburgh worships the Steelers and a good sixty percent of Heinz Field on any given Sunday is wearing number 7.
Well, that was last season at least. Vendors apparently can't even move the things now, as everyone is hoping he'll be traded.
Obviously speculating here, but maybe that's the issue. Maybe the couple times he has been shut down, he didn't really like it that much. Just a thought.
Certainly plausible. Guys that get so built up in the media and in their own minds might not like failure so much.
How are those Blackhawks doing? :)
It's really game to game. They didn't even bother to show up last night and that's the kind of result you should expect when that happens. Luckily it's best of seven, not best of three. We'll see what happens tomorrow but I can't say I'm hugely disappointed with the defense. Without Campbell, and with Duncan and Keith having the mental aptitude of Tristan Llewellyn on a bad day, I'm expecting our offense to carry us.
I think the West in general has been a big disappointment. I'm not seeing a team right now that could beat the Caps, and unfortunately I think Ovie is taking that team to the finals.
and everyone i know who has met him says he's an absolute douchebag. For example he walks into restaurant's and just says where the fuck is my table? and bitches if they don't have one immediately available. So it wouldn't shock me if he lost it after being turned down.
of manfrazzlin' goodness in the middle there.
You would know why he is looking elsewhere...
I live in Pittsburgh. Yinzer women are gross and trashy, but when you have Pitt, Duquesne, Point Park, Carlow, and to a much lesser extent Chatham and CMU all in one city, you're bound to have a decent stable of attractive women. In my opinion, this city gets a bad rap in terms of females.
dude you have to take cmu off of that list. There is no one here that Big Ben would touch with a ten foot pole
Go see some of the theatre productions. It's where the hot women hang out.
CMU's program is one of the best in the country. I saw "The Wild Party" there a few years ago, and it was enjoyable on a lot of levels (including eye-candy). Great production overall, and both leads are currently on Broadway.
Fellow Tartan, huh?
I agree for the most part, but as hokiewolf said, the art and theater department is unfairly loaded down with talent. The rest of the school, undergrad and grad, looks like a war zone of ugly.
has some psyciatric issues, namely bipolar, and it looks as though he is making things a lot worse by drinking a lot. Post below was right, sex and a lot of it should not be a problem for this guy. There is something else he is feeding here, going back to the motorcycle incident. I, for one, actually don't expect it to stop, unless he actually gets significant help. Tragic ending coming soon.
"As the District Attorney concluded, the extensive investigatory record shows that you contributed to the irresponsible consumption of alcohol by purchasing (or facilitating the purchase of) alcoholic beverages for underage college students, at least some of whom were likely already intoxicated. There is no question that the excessive consumption of alcohol that evening put the students and yourself at risk. The Personal Conduct Policy also states that discipline is appropriate for conduct that 'undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players.' By any measure, your conduct satisfies that standard."
Just so long as he's not driving a ricer.
I'd say Corvette Z06.
I say providing Alcohol to minors usually invloves trying to get in there pants
Uh oh, I see the Word Police approaching!
You meant "their".
Do you think he sues the NFL for damages? Is that recourse open to him?
Or the obverse--does taking his punishment now without complaining suggest that he is guilty?
From what I have read, I don't want this guy around my daughter--he sounds like a big-time jerk, and a jerk who screws up other people's lives. Having your goons deliver women to you is decidedly uncool, and there was more than a hint that this was SOP for the guy.
But if I am his lawyer, and looking to protect the guy's rep, these are the questions I'm asking now. And I think Roethlisberger's response to this--or lack of one--could be pretty telling.
I have never been a Big Ben fan. I think he is a completely hyped player who has been on extraordinary (in particular defensively) teams. I am really hoping he goes to Cleveland and struggles...as well as getting his life straight and all that junk.
I think the NFL is really getting into a dangerous gray area. Basically, they're ignoring legality and trying to punish what they consider poor morals.
I saw that Joey Porter was recently arrested on a DUI charge, but it was dropped after some accusations of unnecessary force and whatnot. Shouldn't that arrest bring a suspension, even though he was never charged? In the NFL's eyes, guys are basically presumed guilty because they "undermine or put at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL" by even being accused of a crime.
Maybe a better example: What if I went to a party at which a bunch of NFL players were in attendance, had some drinks with them (perfectly legal for all involved) and then falsely claimed that one sexually assaulted me? I'd have no supporting evidence and I'm sure they'd never be charged, but that's certainly "making headlines" in a terrible way.
I'm not saying Roethlisberger isn't a douchebag -- logic tells me that he did a lot of things "wrong" in this incident -- but if accusal = suspension, that's just unfair. There are a whole lot of guys who do things I consider to be wrong, and I don't think the NFL wants to suspend 30% of the league's players.
From purely a fan's standpoint, I have no problem with punishing a guy for being an idiot. I just wonder about the fairness of that and how far the league can stretch that argument. Feel free to disagree with me and explain why I'm an uptight moron, which is entirely possible.
I buy this and definitely can see a slippery slope of sorts. In all seriousness, let's say the Jets made the playoffs again and before the divisional game, a woman comes forward and says something Ben-like happened between her and Sanchez. How could they then justify not suspending him? What's preventing female fans from pulling stunts like this?
I am not discrediting the severity of this individual claim, I am just pointing out the possibility that a can of worms has been opened for the league to deal with.
"What's preventing female fans from pulling stunts like this?"
Civil damages for slander and/or libel; criminal charges for committing perjury if statements were given under oath or during a state investigatory process. The incredible embarrassment of being labeled a binge-drinking slut/whore/prostitute/etc. when the defense puts all of its energy into finding evidence of character flaws. Increased skepticism that comes from making such claims at the height of a person's popularity.
Not to mention, people sadly expect such "players" to have no trouble getting laid by very willing women. When everyone already expects you to be "very willing", it's harder to prove force was used; and some states still require a woman to prove she "resisted". This can be very difficult if the alleged rape or sexual assault occurs at a party or bar where patrons and passersby don't validate the allegation, and there are no physical signs of a struggle.
Because BR's act was SO flagrantly stupid in that he not only sexually assaulting a woman, but an intoxicated, underage drinking college-girl in a very public bar, I don't think this opens a Pandora's Box. There was enough of an investigative and fact-finding process to qualify the NFL's suspension in this case, which probably wouldn't be the case in your Mark Sanchez hypothetical.