OT: Badgers move on
We heard the media and Vol fans complain about the calls in our game last night, but Zona has a legitimate beef. Two very similar plays to our game last night. Both went against Zona tonight. Oh yeah, fuck bo ryan
Edit: Im an idiot. I was watching the stream from apple tv. Of course I get the final score while the refs were talking to both coaches. Miller was upset, so I figured they awarded the ball to wisky. The charge was still bs. But the charge and out of bounds were similar to our game last night. Something needs to be done about the block/charge call. It rewards the defender for getting to a spot versus defending.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:15 PM ^
They gave the ball to Zona, how did that call go against Zona again???
March 29th, 2014 at 11:16 PM ^
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March 30th, 2014 at 12:18 AM ^
That one was iffy. But - just as for Tennessee last night - the offensive foul actually helped them, because if the refs had let them play on, it would have been Wisconsin ball - Johnson missed the shot and Wisconsin was going to get the rebound.
March 30th, 2014 at 12:21 AM ^
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March 29th, 2014 at 11:17 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:24 PM ^
(no snark intended)
I'm confused. Didn't they get both calls wrong? So if I'm following correctly, you are more surprised the refs got the call wrong in favor or Arizona when they got it wrong against Michigan and probably Kentucky as well?
March 29th, 2014 at 11:19 PM ^
Nick Johnson gave ?Gassar? a stiff-arm. Easy to see. THe only question was whether ?Gassar? bumped Johnson first.
Johnson is the one who forced the ref to make that decision.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:15 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:15 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:16 PM ^
We're not sober, are we?
March 29th, 2014 at 11:17 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:18 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:18 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:24 PM ^
to the Wiscy player, it may have been a foul on Wiscy. The stiff-arm was clearly an offensive foul. THe only question was whether Wiscy committed a block before the stiff-arm.
A maybe blocking foul or a sure stiff arm in plain view.
I think a ref is likely to choose the sure still arm most of the time.
March 30th, 2014 at 12:07 PM ^
It was pretty clearly a foul on Wisconsin. The defender came up and very clearly bodied the guy going up for the shot. Also, there was no stiff arm. He extended his elbow slightly from his body after he got bodied, and in a way that rarely gets an offensive foul. The way the defender bodied him gets called 90% of the time.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:18 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:19 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:51 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:19 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:19 PM ^
OP, shut the hell up. They didn't screwed at all.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:21 PM ^
Well, at least they got the out-of-bounds call at the end, unlike us. I agree the offensive foul killed their momentum, though
March 29th, 2014 at 11:49 PM ^
Momentum? He missed the shot and UW would have rebounded it. The call actually helped them by forcing UW to inbound it (resulting in the turnover).
March 29th, 2014 at 11:20 PM ^
Arizona had every shot possible, quit crying. You make us all look bad. Actually, no you don't...just yourself. Delete this garbage.
Maybe if Arizona didn't switch every screen and put guards on the best player on the floor (in the post) they would've won.
Why so serious yost? I edited the title and contents. I acknowledged my mistake. I messed up on a message board post. Its not like a blew a call in the final seconds. At ease
March 29th, 2014 at 11:20 PM ^
ummmmmmmm what?
March 29th, 2014 at 11:20 PM ^
The refs decided the game when they called the offensive foul on the possession before the inbounds. If you look closely at the inbounds, it was the right call.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:23 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:26 PM ^
Go back and look at it. The Wisconsin player touched the ball last. You can see the ball change spin.
Also, an offensive foul call directly after there should have been a call against Wisconsin for body contact while an Arizona player is driving, all of this occuring in the final few seconds...
Perhaps this doesn't "decide the game," but it certainly puts a huge dent in their win probability. It was a terrible call, and it is even more terrible because of when they called it.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:43 PM ^
Second he missed the shot and Wisconsin had the rebound. The foul actually have Arizona at least a shot. Otherwise the best case for Arizona is Wisconsin shooting free throws at the other end with 3.2 left.
Also, I dislike Wisconsin.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:48 PM ^
You completely ignored my main point, so let's push the distraction, the out of bounds call, aside. My beef is that Johnson was called for an offensive foul (an obvious one, I admit) directly after an equally obvious defensive foul. As a ref, in the final seconds of the game, you simply can't do that. It was a terrible, game-changing call.
I understand the tendency to develop tunnel vision and focus only on the last play or so. That's a mistake.
March 30th, 2014 at 12:07 AM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:56 PM ^
The refs decided the game when they called the offensive foul on the possession before the inbounds.
Even if that was their "intention," they didn't actually decide it, because Arizona did in fact get another possession, also down only one. Ironically, that call helped UA, because otherwise, Wisconsin rebounds the miss and time may expire (or at best, they're shooting FTs at the other end).
March 29th, 2014 at 11:23 PM ^
Could have called a Wisconsin guy (Gasser?) for throwing his chest into Johnson before the offensive foul, but Wisconsin has never been called for the Wisconsin chest.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:25 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:27 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:27 PM ^
Um...one out of bounds call ended up going to Arizona and that charge call was technically a charge. In fact, since the shot missed, had it not been called, that may have been the game right there as the Wildcats would most likely not have gotten the second chance to win again like they did. The refs didn't screw them over. This is a stupid thread.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:27 PM ^
The Charge: good call, you cant stiff arm your defender in basketball
The Review: I have no idea how the hell they overturned that. Maybe the one ref who called charge thought he messed up, because that is the only explanation I can see.
At the end of the day, Wisconsin made their shots when it mattered and Arizona didnt. Also, I would much rather see Wisconsin again than Arizona asuming we win tomorrow.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:30 PM ^
It was off Jackson. They got it right on review.
March 30th, 2014 at 12:01 AM ^
Did you feel the same way about Armando Allen?
I have trouble ciriticizing the officials for getting a call right on the grounds that they shouldn't have. Criticizing the amount of time it took, that I can understand.
Armando allen was obviously out of bounds. I never got why ND fans were so upset over that one. They overturned it when they got it wrong. The refs were too scared to overturn the call in our game when they got it wrong.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:39 PM ^
I dont know, I mean I saw the ball change rotation, but it looked like both of their hands were touching it. I thought it was too close to overturn.
March 29th, 2014 at 11:29 PM ^
March 29th, 2014 at 11:29 PM ^
Options when taking the ball out of bounds with 3.2 seconds, two timeouts, and zero timeouts for Arizona:
- Call a timeout
- Throw a pass to the front-court, unless cleanly intercepted, no chance for Zona
- Throw a risky pass in the backcourt that can result in Zona points
That was a bad choice.
And was that Steve Kerr that kept pleading for Arizona to pull a Chris Webber timeout?
March 29th, 2014 at 11:29 PM ^
Yesterday it was about MSU playing UConn, today it's about Wisconsin.
Give it a rest people. Quit acting like babies with this obsession over everyone else. And stupid shit too - not even stuff we all can agree on. Just whining to whine.
We're playing an 8-seed after playing an 11. We have no right to complain about MSU playing a 7 after beating a 1. Arizona didn't get screwed one bit in this game, they actually GOT the replay call that wasn't indisputable to overturn (something we didn't yesterday) and still didn't convert.
March 30th, 2014 at 12:32 AM ^