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December 4th, 2012 at 7:07 PM | More than just Bo (Score:3 Normal)
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Also from Miami, Woody.  The metrics do not back up the overstatements about MAC coaches versus other schools.  Of course, the powerhouse is now apparently Arksansas State.  Coorinators, small school coaches, etc., have fared well and failed at coaching.  And first year failure does not mean continued failure (See Bill Snyder, etc.).  

- Dutch

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December 4th, 2012 at 6:19 PM | Some people just don't like (Score:5 Funny)
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big drums. 

May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift

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December 4th, 2012 at 6:22 PM | Bielema leaves and some guy (Score:2)
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Bielema leaves and some guy turns down Purdue and the sky is falling?  Yeesh.

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December 4th, 2012 at 6:26 PM | Boulder is absolutely beautiful. (Score:1)
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Boulder>>>>>>>>>>>West Lafayette.  

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

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December 4th, 2012 at 6:31 PM | As a Purdue student (Score:3 Normal)
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and never being out to Boulder,

Boulder >>> West Lafayette

You're HIV-Aladeen.

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December 4th, 2012 at 6:41 PM | As a purdue alum Boulder (Score:2 Normal)
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As a purdue alum Boulder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

West Lafayette

At least west lafayette has dough shack.

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December 4th, 2012 at 6:41 PM | Maybe it's as simple as money. (Score:1)
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Not sure but maybe Colorado will pay more.

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December 4th, 2012 at 6:43 PM | Ever been to Boulder? It's a (Score:1 Normal)
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Ever been to Boulder?

It's a great town with close proximity to Denver. The skiing and summer trails make Colorado a perfect place for someone with an outdoor lifestyle and a love for scenery.

Would you choose West Lafayette, IN over that? I sure wouldn't.

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December 4th, 2012 at 7:01 PM | Expectations (Score:2 Normal)
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In Colorado, Jones will have the built-in excuse of having terrible personnel on his team, and will only need to cite this year's record to back his argument.  If he even wins 6 games in 2014 or 2015, it will be seen as great progress.  

Meanwhile, Purdue probably thinks the next coach should win at least nine games next year. It's not that Colorado is such a great job, but that Purdue is a no-win situation, where the next coach is more likely to get the increasingly-popular "three and out" treatment.

 

 

 

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December 4th, 2012 at 7:07 PM | I was wondering... (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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...has Greg Schiano turned down Purdue yet?

 

 

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December 4th, 2012 at 7:11 PM | I'd take Colorado over Purdue (Score:1)
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Colorado is a bad team, yes, but I'm more enamored with the history there than with Purdue. Colorado is in Colorado, while Purdue is in Indiana.  Where is the contest there?  Turning around a Colorado team means being a national player.  Turning around a Purdue team means going to the Outback Bowl on occasion.

If you are a coach that wants a challenge and potential reward, Colorado offers the greater challenge, but also the greater reward.

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December 4th, 2012 at 7:19 PM | There's no structural reason that CU can't become competitive (Score:2)
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Their current roster seems to be about 1/3 kids from CA, so it's not hard to get west coast kids to Boulder. Rashaan Salaam, Darian Hagan and Eric Bienemy were all from CA, so it's not like CU hasn't had good success out there in the past. Boulder isn't that far from AZ, northern TX, Kansas, NEB, or MO, so I think it's a matter of getting the right coach. Embree was in a shitty position, but he had never been a head coach at any level before, and was a very ill-advised hire for CU. If the CU administration wasn't going to be patient enough to let him re-build the program, then they should never have hired him in the first place.

CU has really been snakebit in coaching. After McCartney retired, they hired Rick Neuheisel, who left abruptly after four years for Washington. Then CU hires Gary Barnett, who had worked wonders at Northwestern, and Barnett proceeds to get himself fired after a number of ethical lapses. CU then hires Dan Hawkins, who'd been tearing it up at Boise St., and Hawkins flames out after five terrible seasons. By the end of Hawkins' tenure, I'd have to think that recruiting had gone completely in the dumper, and Embree inherited a dumpster fire.


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December 4th, 2012 at 10:07 PM | Neuheisel's departure wasn't (Score:3 Normal)
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Neuheisel's departure wasn't really a bad break.  Their program was falling apart under his watch.  

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December 4th, 2012 at 7:28 PM | CU (Score:2 Interesting)
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Was hurting for money badly just a couple years ago.  They scheduled a one game contract for a trip to Columbus so they could pocket a million dollars.  Supposedly, the reason they didn't fire Hawkins earlier was they couldn't afford to buy him out.  After Hawkins they were looking to hire someone for cheap.  I think Embree was making less than a million dollars as head coach.  Now they moved to the Pac-12 and are starting to see more money come in.  If Embree had shown any signs of success of getting the program turned around, he'd probably still be here.  He went won 4 games in two years and wasn't even competitive in a lot of the games this year.  CU canned him and are now willing to pay well over 7 figures to the new coach.

It is a dumpster fire and the new coach better hope the administrators and fans have some patience.

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December 4th, 2012 at 7:31 PM | Colorado is a better job than (Score:1)
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Colorado is a better job than Purdue.  There is really no debating that.

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December 4th, 2012 at 8:09 PM | I've never been to West (Score:2)
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I've never been to West Lafayette, but I've been to Indiana. I'm presently sitting on campus at CU. I would take this over anything in Indiana.

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December 4th, 2012 at 8:33 PM | Champaign Urbana (Score:1)
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You are right, central Illinois beats hell outta central Indiana

Keep your stick on the ice.

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December 4th, 2012 at 11:08 PM | Their program was falling apart under his watch. (Score:2)
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He went 10-2, 10-2, 5-6, and 8-4. I'm not sure that qualifies as "falling apart," but the shit that went on at Washington during his tenure would lead me to think that there was inner rot beginning at Boulder under him.


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