well that's just, like, your opinion, man
OT: Auburn program under investigation by NCAA
Slight nudge in our favor for Green?
But wouldn't that be a good thing? If his position coach and the recruiting coordinator is getting the boot, then wouldn't that be less reason to go to Auburn? In addition to the dark cloud that all of this brings anyway?
I wonder if this investigation is how the Jordan Diamond rumor got started a couple of weeks ago?
You mean this? Courtesy of the aptly titled "SEC Rant"
AU OL Jordan Diamond from Chicago LFB 2012-10-24 12:54:10 ---------------------------- Diamond is from Chicago, IL, very strange that a kid from Chicago would go all the way down south to play for Auburn when he had much better options closer to home. Well, it turns out the Chicago Tribune investigated this and Diamond has admitted to close friends/relatives that he took a multiple payments which equaled to $50,000 to sign with Auburn. Story is going to hint print next Tuesday. This is legit info. Makes sense now why Ohio State completely stopped recruiting him. Aubs gonna Aubs.
Don't know if that was ever verified.
Jordan Diamond's Apparent Response:
This month has already been rough on me and the family. Now y'all wanna
come at me with this. I left CHICAGO because I didn't wanna be around
or apart of the violence and the controversy any more. I wanted to get as
far away as possible but still feel at home and AU is that place. I
came down here because I wanted to go to Auburn. Don't get me wrong I loved
all the schools that recruited me and I wish them well but Auburn is better and ultimately has the better
opportunity for me to play early, and a great family atmosphere. Please
let me enjoy my years here at AU because I only got a few of them. Thank
I hope it's not the former...but it is Auburn. Time will tell.
His recruitment ended very strange. Good to finally connect some dots. I wish the NCAA would clean this crap up once in for all so everyone would be on level playing field.
That sound you hear is the moving truck warming up at the Chizik residence.
Actually it's the hammering of nails building Cecil Newton's new church. It takes a while to blow $180,000 in cash.
Stop me if you've heard this one before. My guess is they just say the parents asked with no knowledge, bla bla bla.
They are. Since they're not winning anymore what better time for the NCAA to investigate. These guys are a joke.
we landed on the moon!
"As @Ianfitzespn notes, NCAA violations could nullify Gene Chizik buyout. Auburn w $10m incentive to cooperate"
This. I would not be surprised if any of the boosters "cooperated" in uncovering this stuff. They want this guy gone bad.
Even so, they would be punished too...Do they want to get rid of him so bad that they are willing to be excomunicated from the program? Doubt it
The way the NCAA "punishes" programs these days, the boosters are probably thinking that an NCAA punishment is much, much easier to endure (or work around, or avoid altogether) than either a $10M buyout or more years with Chizik.
This is where I'm supposed to say that thing about gambling in this establishment, right?
nail them on the Cam Newton thing how will they now? The only time the NCAA really comes down on anyone is when they self report and tell on themselves. All a school has to do to stay out of major trouble is to not do all the work and investigating themselves.
Because right now there's no Cam Newton whose worth a solid 4 Nelson points all by himself to worry about suspending for the remaining regular season + NC game. The NCAA doesn't mess with cash cows mid year.
doesn't make any money off of football, whether a program is getting Super Bowl ratings or never plays on TV.
THAT THE SEC IS IN TROUBLE FOR PAY FOR PLAY THAT I AM WRITING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.
SEC: If you aint cheatin' you aint tryin'.
Seems like the NCAA does these investigations with the intent to not find anything. Maybe they'll actually do some digging now that Auburn sucks.
maybe cam newton can pay to make this go away.
I bet most Auburn fans would gladly accept any penalties coming their way in exchange for that NC a few years ago. How else were they ever gonna win one.
but they could LOSE the NC, and Cam Newton can return the Heisman Trophy too.
I hate fucking cheaters.
Gotta love them "Green backs"
For me at least, this one takes the cake.
Oh no not Auburn! This is so suprising! /s
Auburn? No, can't be. I still trying to recover from Miami being dirty. What's next, SMU? The shock of it all....
They just got a verbal commit from Deion Sanders' son, and he doesn't need $$$$. Right?
Drawing top 5 recruiting classes year after year is difficult for even the most storied programs. It's almost inconceivable for a 2nd tier program like Auburn with direct recruiting battles vs Bama, UGA, FSU, FL.
If you're willing to toss a coach 2 yrs after a title, "win at all cost" probably has other prices to pay.
that may be the last straw for chizik. or maybe it will be the 49-0 beatdown they're about to receive from saban and co. this saturday.
No way. Bama will blow Auburn out instead of letting them hang around like that.
A lot has been made of our coaching staff's struggles to finish recruiting classes, and my response has almost always been "small sample size, small sample size, small sample size." I'm starting to wonder if there isn't something very different about the recruitments that drag out until the end (in general, of course, not in every case).
If you're a kid who is trying to figure out where to go to school and play football - and you don't want anything to do with the slimy aspects of football recruiting - you'd might as well commit to a school once you've decided that's the place for you. That could be in your junior year or on signing day, but when you've found the right place you've found the right place.
If you're a kid who is open to getting in on what the slimy schools are offering, you'd might as well hold off for awhile to let the bids and gifts come in.
I am not accusing any particular kid of any wrongdoing - hell, I blame the schools much more than the kids/families - and obviously this doesn't fit every case (I think we'd all be shocked if Josh Garnett's recruitment was fishy, for example). Still, it'll be interesting to see whether the Michigans and Notre Dames of the football world disproportionately lose these drawn out recruiting battles to the Auburns and Clemsons of the football world.
I wish I could neg your cynicism, but In my heart of hearts I believe exactly as you do.
Some of these recruitments that drag out forever and then end with a surprise choice just reek of money changing hands.
Well put. Nobody wants to say it and say anything negative about the kids, but there's a whole lot to what you just stated.
So when Auburn was winning, paying off the dad is okay with the NCAA. Now that they are losing, lets get that investigation fired up to look like the NCAA is on top of things.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Where the hell was everyone in 2010 when it seemed more than clear that improprieties had occurred??
"In addition to the academic issues involving Robinson, sources told Yahoo! Sports the NCAA has investigated whether a Wooddale P.E. teacher, Rhonda Wilkinson, provided impermissible benefits to the player during his recruitment, including transportation to the Auburn campus on at least one occasion. Wilkinson is an Auburn graduate and fan – her vehicle and home are extensively decorated with Auburn memorabilia." - from the article
I am guessing that no one at Auburn would have ever thought that such a person might be tempted to REALLY sell someone on Auburn, of course. There's nothing in the resulting mental image that might make anyone on the outside think "booster", right? I mean, there cannot possibly be anything in the NCAA Handbook which would hold Auburn responsible for the actions of those who actively represent it....*skims section on "Institutional Control"*...oh...
Cam Newton's dad gets 180k and this is the booster giving them problems?
Their day is still coming.
- Posts from November 2010
That Oregon-auburn mnc game is going to be completely eradicated from the record books when it is all said and done.
Many of my neighbors here in Atlanta are alums and it's crazy how little disgust or concern exists for these issues.
We were apoplectic about practice hours and NCAA investigators. They shrug off doctoring of school transcripts & investigators like Publix is out of cranberry sauce on Nov 21.
People up here simply don't know what they are missing.
Publix is out of cranberry sauce. Damn! What am I going to do?
So when does Ole Miss get hammered. They don't win games, they rarely ever go to a bowl game and I couldn't even tell you the head coach off hand. But the number one recruit in the country is suddenly about to commit there. I don't get it.
Ole Miss I think gets a pass on that since his brother is on the team I believe, and momma wants him there. 9/10 times momma gets what she wants.
and I totally did not see this coming at all
Funny how they are more open to investigating schools when they totally suck...
"Will the NCAA really do anything?" Of course they will. If we were talking about Ohio State, USC, or Bama, they would let them off as lightly as possible. Since Auburn isn't an "old money" team, they will get hammered.
I realize that this is the conventional wisdom (that the NCAA just slaps the wrists of its traditional powers), but you could make a case that Penn State, Ohio State, and USC all have been hit much harder recently than just about anyone expected.
I'm probably naive, but I cannot say the NCAA hit Ohio State harder than I expected.
it's more an order of operations issue. If the investigation follows or is concurrent with a relative fall from grace in the school's on-field performance, then expect a harsh penalty. Otherwise, wrist-slap.
it would not suprise me one bit that auburn boosters would cooperate with the NCAA to get Chizik fired sans buyout even if it meant sanctions against the program. to an SEC school, sanctions are just a "down period" in the program and not a damning indictment of cultural rot at the university (see: Alabama in the "Shula years", Kentucky every other year, etc etc)
Auburn fans are starting to be convinced that it is a booster that dropped the dime on recruiting.
I am so mad that I missed Finebaum today.
Green, Sky is blue, Water is wet, and Auburn is paying players.
So now NCAA sanctions are a tool used to get out of contracts for university gain. Hopefully the NCAA catches on and lays the smack down. But I doubt they will. Auburn will probably get exactly what they want from this.
Sidenote-have those Indiana kids been cleared to play yet? Rather absurd for the NCAA to suspend them for 30% of the season but suspend Muhammad only 10% for the exact same offense. Way to ALWAYS get it wrong NCAA.