OT: Arnold Classic, Columbus Ohio
I lived there for a few years... Yes there is a very high chance something will happen to your ride. If someone tells you it will be fine, they don't know what they are talking about.
I know multiple people he have come down or even live there where something had happened either because of something on the outside of the vehicle or even something UM related on the inside that was visible. You may get lucky though.
If you need any good places for food or anything in the area, let me know...
Appreciate the reply man, I think Im just gonna take the hit on paying for more gas. The risk of having my car vandalized is not worth it. I'll just sport a Michigan shirt or something !
Just trying to be realistic... Even with the Michigan shirt there is a chance of some sort of interaction. Had the parents of a 7-8yo child send their son over to me in a parking lot to tell me "fuck Michigan" while they laughed. It's an interested level of classy there. I know they all aren't like that but there area good number of bad ones.
Downtown is pretty decent and some good places for food and a beer if you drink. Also if you have the time and haven't been, drive by the horse shoe and take a look. It's only 10-15mins away from where you will be.
Ive heard stories like that before man, fun/sad at the same time. As for the horseshoe i was thinking about driving by it just to see it.
It's not Michigan Stadium but it's still cool to see and you can drive right up to it.
Be wary of someone who tries to make their point with some version of "if anyone says anything different, they dont know what they are talking about," rather than stating facts or logical arguments.
You will be fine. Be confident, but dont be a douche. Dont wear some meathead UM t-shirt that is 3 sizes too small to show off your guns. Just be a normal, respectful guy. Represent the university well, and people will treat you with respect and courtesy.
You, sir, are correct. I've lived in Columbus for 7+ years, have worked on campus, and it's pretty well known that I am a Michigan fan. I wear Michigan gear once every week or two. I think there has been only one occasion where a situation has gotten out of line. Be respectful, and you will be treated with respect type stuff. Expect some ribbing, but don't expect to be hit with piss bottles or something stupid like that. It's more civil down here than is being reported.
Michigan fans are everywhere in Columbus. It's not uncommon to see Michigan flags as you drive around town. None of the cars or houses appear speckled with poo, either.
Why would you consciously choose to live in C-bus and work there, especially as an M fan? 284562,34342,34553,5532343 other places to live and work in the world that are preferable.
Really? So attacking me for sharing my experiences is okay? Pay no attention to the irony of your response to what I said.
Just stating what I've seen and know. Sure lots of people have never had anything happen, but you're still taking a chance. I had to take my alumni association sticker off my car because it was keyed. It was just a small sticker on the back side window.
The rest of the stuff I've seen all happened to people I know personally and not stupid made up internet lore. Why insult me for sharing my view?
Wow, it might just be over-reactions like this that lead you to feel like a UM fan is in such danger in Columbus. Blanket statements like "anyone who does not agree with me does not know what they are talking about" lack in logic, and are not the basis for a productive discussion. I can see how you get yourself into trouble down there. As many responses in the thread demonstrate, there are in fact many people who do not agree with you and who do know what they are talking about.
I'm sorry that someone pointing out that you and the OP need to be open to different sides of an issue is a personal attack to you. You will indeed have a tough time anywhere when taking things so personally.
I think you simply don't understand what I am saying. As that sometimes happens on the internet. Anyone who says that you will not have an issue in Columbus is making a blanket statement in regards to his or his vehicles safety. Is it possible he will have zero trouble while visiting, yes absolutely but he also needs to expect that anything can happen there. I have a full list of things I could go into detail about would explain why I feel like you're taking a chance no matter who you are. Personally after having my own car keyed I chose not to even tell people I was originally from Michigan because I never knew what type of person I was dealing with. I'm not taking anything personal as I know from personal experience how horrible buckeye fans can be. I just enjoyed pointing out the irony of a blanket statement attacking my blanket statement.
Lived in Columbus for most of my life and i never had a problem with any of my stuff being vandalized because it had Michigan items in it, on it or around it. I'm sure there is a possibility since people can be stupid. I'm sure there are a few dumb buckeye fans who are a 6 pack away from rampaging on some poor Michigan bumper sticker but over all the chances are minimal. At the Arnold Classic you tend to get people from all over the US. I wouldn't be worried
I've lived down here for eight years without a single incident. That stuff is way overblown. Honestly, I believe it's mostly made up.
Ok, I went to Ohio State and I know you are wrong. I wore my UM jersey every game day and nothing ever happened to me.
The car will be fine, enjoy the event.
I live in Columbus and have for the past 5 years. I wear Michigan stuff everywhere, and have never had a problem. I've had maybe 1 or 2 instances of someone joking that they are going to charge me more for something because of my shirt, but that's the worst I've ever gotten.
The best comeback, I've learned, is to just ask them what year they graduated from Ohio State, and watch them reply awkwardly that they never went to school there.
That's pretty dickish to ask a cashier trying to be friendly with you.
it's not impossible that the cashier didn't go to OSU. What would really be funny if they replied "Class of 98 bitches, OH"! Least it was funny that way in my head
What are you? An msu fan?
You do make a valid point, but there is a risk at the event and anywhere else he may stop.
Double post fail
I'd take the fiancé's ride.
You'd probably be alright but I wouldn't risk it.
If you are parking near the convention center it is a very safe area filled with young professionals. The convention center is located on the edge of the arena district and the short north, both of which are very nice areas that have little to no vandalism. My parents have parked their car, which has a personalised UM license plate on it, numerous times and have never had a problem You can buy a parking pass near the convention center in one of the arena district parking garages. Use this link:
It may seem expensive, but it is safe.
I will say that if you happen to park on/near campus and it would stay there over night when students are drinking that anything could happen. Also, what type of UM stuff? A sticker on the back windshield? adecorative license plate cover? a flag in your back window?
I have a Michigan Sticker on the back window, also a Michigan License plate cover
Do you even lift?
If you are worried and really want to save on gas money just take off the license plate cover(s) and cover the sticker with some gray duct tape. It'll take you 5 minutes and no one will ever be curious about the duct tape unless the sticker you have is the size of your rear windshield.
I can almost guarantee it. I was born at St. Joes in Ann Arbor, family moved here when I was 4 months old...never had a problem and every singe one of our cars is plastered with UM stuff. If your car gets vandalized it is due to the fact that place the convention is held is right next to "The Bottoms," probably the worst area in the city. I can almost assure you that people from the area walk the lots looking for cars to break into, whether or not they succeed I cannot say. I would take all valuables out of your vehicles, or put them well out of sight.
I will say, other than the constant draft of suckeye unintelligence that runs through the city...I love Columbus. Probably the cleanest city and one of the most friendly cities out of all the others I have visited. You may get a little harassment by an ohio fan if you wear some UM gear, but unless they are one of the rabid morons it will be all in good fun.
With UM parent plate holder...nothing. I'd worry more about bad drivers. Enjoy the Ahnold; know some folks competing in table tennis.
I went last year to the Arnold in a Michigan hoodie and actually saw a few ppl in Michigan gear. Even stood in line with Michael Ferns at the Optimum Nutrition booth. You get TONS of free samples i still have a drawer full so enjoy. The only thing to worry about is the smell in the expo center.
Go to the Easton Mall and get some ice cream from Jeni's-bring cash
the only good thing to ever come out of Columbus (well, and Trey Burke, and a few other players)
Best ice cream in columbus is Graeters. Unless you are into the "eat whatever says all natural/gluten free" food revolution BS that is unfortunately sweeping the nation...Jeni's is ok.
Seriously, I wouldnt worry about it. I am at OSU for medical school and my wife and I have not had any problems related to michigan since we moved here three years ago. However, if you leave your wallet/anything valuable in the open obviously you're leaving yourself open to have a bad night. But even then its a slim chance something happens.
If you want any food reccomendations, I'd be happy to give some. Enjoy the Arnold and take your time. Too many people rush through it for the supplements that they don't realy enjoy the experience.
If you want to get to the ON or Bodybuilding.com Booths....get there early and make a dash straight to them because the lines get very loooooooooooooooooong.
ON and bodybuilding.com are my planned first stops for sure,!
I went to a Tigers vs Indians Spring Training game in Winter Haven, Florida several years ago when I had a split M magnet on my tailgate. Someone wrote "GO BUCKS!" in sharpie on the magnet as well as "SUCKS" below it on the truck. Both washed off, but it was aggravating. While that wasn't in Columbus, and I no longer have the magnet, i would still go. Most people are level headed enough not to do actual damage to your car. And remember, if we live in fear, the bad guys have already won.
I travel to Ohio for business and own a Blue SUV with a yellow pin stripe, a "Those who stay" sticker, and M licence plate. When I work out at the Columbus Lifetime Fitness, I always wear something Michigan. it freaks some people out but I laugh it off.
There's a chance your car gets vandalized, but it's small.
Both UM alum. She used to stress out when my car laden with block M's would be left out on the street, but nothing ever happened. Only occasional snide remarks from neighbors. This was in the 90's when we repeatedly steamrolled over highly ranked John Cooper teams, so maybe that had something to do with my vehicle leaving C-bus unscathed. I've gone there over 20-30 times with nothing horrible happening.
he always had a Michigan flag hung up at his house, one morning he went outside to find his flag snapped in half, my cousins car keyed up. Didn't stop him from hanging it back up but he installed a camera also.
I taught at OSU for a semester last year and parked on campus. Worst I got was the occasional "UM SUX" or "GO BUCKS" written in the dust layer of my car / windshield. I have actually had more problems at the Columbus airport parking lots or gas stations with dickheads yelling stuff to me than vandalism to my car. Signature block story not withstanding.
Nothing will happen to your car. Just don't be cheap when you park - it's going to be a mess in that area this weekend so if you see a lot charging $20 just take it. The convention center is nowhere near any of the bad areas of Columbus. If you have any desire to eat dinner make sure you get a reservation - try "Knead" right accross the street.
And if you want Jeni's just walk three blocks north on High Street - no need to go to Easton mall.
I go down there and attend something at the convention center around mid to late January every year and I've never had a problem.
Especially when you're there for an event at the convention center, most of the people around you aren't from around town anyway and probably aren't OSU crazies. Obviously there is always some risk, but I'd say its pretty low; no more likely to happen than if you drove around any other Big Ten town with Michigan stuff.
I think most of the stories that go around come from football games. When I go down there for The Game, I am extra careful, because all the crazies ARE in town at that point and you are going right into the eye of the storm. For that you would want to take every necessary precaution and avoid any unnecessary risk, but for a convention, you'll be fine.
You have the arena district just to the south of you, and the short north just to the north. This is all walking district. People come from all over so for once the central Ohio Buckeyes are not the majority. You'll find fans outside of Columbus are much less fanatical.
Short North, good pubs and good food.
Walking distance. Sorry
and I read above that you're going to bite the bullet and drive the fiance's car, which is the safest option. I've been to C-bus enough times, sporting UM gear and not had any problems but all it takes is one asshole to ruin an otherwise fun trip.
Short story: I went there last summer for a charity golf tournament my wife's family plays in every year and it was right around the time of all the ohio players getting arrested for fights in bars and such. I wore my Maize and Blue proudly and when I got some hell for it from a number of people, my standard response was "I wore this so no one would mistake me as an ohio football player and arrest me." Most took it well, though.
I've lived in Columbus for the past 9 years, and for the most part, it is good natured ribbing. However, I would never put anything on my car or wear Michigan gear to a restaurant. Aside from drunks flexing for their boys, anyone that would do something dispicable wouldn't do it to your face. Like I said, most people are cool, but it only takes one coward to key a car or put some "fromunda" cheese on your steak. That being said, the Convention Center and Arena district is a great place to hang out. The Arnold is a cool event and great for people watching. Be sure to check out the North Market and tsio campus is a short drive up High Street if you want to see what people not smart enough to get into Michigan look like. Go Blue and keep Louisville weird!
I've lived in Columbus my whole life and I'd say you should be alright. You'll be in the downtown/Arean district/Short North area. There are a lot of great restaurants and little art galleries in the Short Nort. Not to mention the Norht Market as mentioned above. Good food and bars in the Areana district. If you are a hockey fan there is a good hockey bar there that my friend owns called the R-Bar (shameless plug). Just north of there is the osu campus, so I would try to avoid that. I've never been to the Arnold Classic but I'm sure with all the people coming in from all over, wearing your Michigan stuff you'll be fine. I wear mine all over and no one really says anything. Can't say the same holds true once some of the schmucks get some alcohol in them. But I'm sure that holds true most places. Also, since it's not football season, most of the people just don't care especially since they are fairweather basketball fans. It's really not a bad city if you exclude osu. Hope you enjoy yourself.
I unfortunately have lots of family of Ohio, a couple are in Columbus.
If you were going there in the 90s, you would likely have an issue. We were mushroom stamping them just about every year and that catalyzed a lot of animoisty. Also, Columbus was generally a shithole back then.
Now, they really don't get worked up over us anymore. The only real feeling they have over us is pity, which doesn't really translate to vandalism or fighting. You could probably instigate stuff, and likely only get laughs from the OSU faithful. Columbus is still kinda of shithole IMO, but much better than it was in the 90s.
to vandalize a car. SRSLY. This is brutal. Off topic, but WTH Mother Nature??? What. the. hell......
Don't be rude or disrespectful and you won't have any problems. That's a lot of why things happen. I wear my Michigan gear in Columbus all the time, especially when I spend time with my in-laws. I've occasionally bantered but the usual question is why I'm a Michigan fan. Once I tell them, they usually back off of being disrespectful. Besides, the Arnold is a huge event. Most of the people in the area will be focused on things other than a football rivalry.
I'm there for business. Anyone else going? I am there for work- should be interesting
You have about the same chance of something happening to your car in Columbus as you have of someone breaking into your car and taking your coat (which had your house keys in it) and your IPad in Ann Arbor - which is very slim. Unfortunately, this stuff happens every where. I know what happened to me in Ann Arbor was an isolated incident and is in no way representative of the city as a whole. I know it is fun to say how horrible the 614 is and how we are all degenerates but I have lived in Columbus my entire life and it is one of the nicest, friendliest cities in the Midwest. Don't look for trouble and you won't find any.
Also - the Convention Center is in a nice, up and coming area and is within walking distance to tons of bars and good restaurants. I would check out this out before going - http://www.shortnorth.org/dining
...I wouldn't worry ab wearing Mich gear but parking in a lot downtown with a bunch of meatheads, you are rolling the dice. Slim chance anything happens but is it worth the risk?
I will be there. It's an awesome show. I am going to coach a few of my students in one of the competitions. I leave tomorrow. Will be back late Saturday.
Honestly, I'll wear my mich stuff. You don't have to worry about vandals around the convention center. Park inside a parking garage, there's one by the back entrance to the center by a super market. But if you going to get a spot, arrive around 730ish. Otherwise it will be full, all day. Parking is usually like $10.
I'll be able to get in about an hr before the public because I am 'helping' an event.
FREE STUFF! We'll for sure see a few celebs...Lou Ferigno, Sly Stallone, Arnold, maybe a few NFLers. Saw Ray Lewis a few years back...
It's an awesome event, go every year, recommend it to everyone.
Theres only two drawbacks...
1) it's located in Americans armpit
2) sometimes it's tough to decipher the men from the woman at the show...some look like freaks of nature and you can only imagine how much they spend on roids.
is that they are in fact people. What you give is largely what you get. For example, I sat in the Spartan student section this year decked out in maize and blue, and had a blast, because I was friendly to those around me and they were friendly back. Sat next to a Buckeye later that year at the Game, same story.
Yeah, there are some wackos who break this rule. If you run into one, that's just bad luck on your part.
Very true - chances are that if you enter a context with an opposing group and you are hyper-guarded, looking at them askance, looking like you are epxecting to be violated in some way, the greater the chance that someone will mess with you.
Moved here 2 weeks after 1991 graduation and no one has ever messed with my car which has always had a Michigan Alumni plate holder or a personalized plate that said UOFM 91 or both. Of course i didn't hang around campus back in the 90's and still don't today. If your fiancee's car is 4WD take it - they are predicting snow all weekend and they clear roads around here like an anorexic clears a plate.
Enjoy the Short North in the evenings after the show. Your ride should be fine.
Are why you should probably listen to people who actually live in the state. Or have at least visited Columbus in this millennium.
We came to Columbus today but to Seinfeld tonight at the Ohio Theatre. When we checked in we were surrounded by people on steroids with fake tans. ;) t
This thread now explains what's up. For that, I thank you.