No hate here.
Remember when we were arguing with Rutgers bloggers about which athletic director was worse?
No hate here.
Arizona's record: 7-4
Michigan's record: 7-4
No way UM would be 7-4 in the PAC 12. Also last I checked UM doesn't have a win over a single top 25 team, and nearly lost to UCONN and Akron. Losing to WSU(who actually has 5 wins) 24-17 is not nearly as bad.
No team has less than two losses. Stanford, Oregon, and UCLA are overrated. Yeah, it's better then the Big Ten, but not that much better.
2-3 games a week. The are top to bottom way better than the Big 10. Washinton State could do very well in this league.
Ohio and Wisky are the only two teams I'd even try to put up against any of the Pac 10 bowl teams.
Arizona loses their QB (Decker) to graduation and I'm guessing their star RB (Carey) will go pro. I don't know if they'll actually get any better. Carey is a stud, better than any tailback we've had since Hart.
are perfect examples of players who have improved under RR and staff. Decker was a train wreck early in the season. Literally. Now he runs that offense with so much poise and confidence. RR is a solid, upper tier football coach and I am so pissed right now that it didn't work out with him.
I'm just about done with this issue.
All I am going to say is all the RichRod apologists in this thread should cut Hoke a break since the depth is fucked because of RichRod failures in recruiting, like RichRod was fucked from Carr letting guys transfer out at will.
This board really degenerates like most users are fairweather on here. Pretty sad to see.
We wouldn't be on this site if we were fair weather idiot
It will be next decade and certain fools here will stll blame Rich Rod for everything wrong with the program. Mostly for not saying "Welllllll..." enough.
never going to get RR with Casteel so its not even watching the same product.
I think the guy is a good coach, but anyone who saw the meltdown at the end of the 2010 season, followed by the banquet scene knew he was in a bad marriage at Michigan. Good for him that he took a year off and then got a chance without the pressure of Michigan.
I pulled for him last year vs. Kiffin and also today, against a cocky Oregon team.
Rich Rod's biggest mistake was running off Scott Shafer after one year. Shafer proved himself as a DC before and after Michigan. Had he let Shafer run the D and design it his way, not RR's way, he'd still be here.
Let's see how he truly responds to pressure during the off-season. Everything was charmed in 2011 and he got a pass from me last year with the road losses and near-win vs. SCaro.
Dicktonio was 5-6 at the end of last year and had to win at Minnesota just to go to a bowl game. Dick that he is, he still figured that his offensive coordinator sucked and that his QB didn't have the football smarts to win. New OC, new QB, better results.
I'd like to see Borges, Funk, and Fred gone, move Devin back to WR, and start Morris. He's got all off-season to fix the offense and O-Line and groom Morris for next year. I love Devin's gutsiness, but he is mentally fried as a QB.
Can you not use childish names like Dicktonio?
You should heed your own words.
Do we need to pull up your conduct from the open threads?
I thought Dantonio had to get a new OC because his guy left for another job? Don't recall him firing anyone.
The fans over at East Lansing did not like their OC very much if I remember. He was bad enough that they got Bollman to replace him.
Welp, this went really well.
RR failed at Michigan. End of. Hoke can be a success if he makes the right call a la Beilein. Still there were a lot of idiots on this site who gave him some way too harsh treatment, who now look, well like the idiots they are. And that's good to see their stupidity being broadcast for the site to see.
Still Hoke is the man. Fire Borges make a smart hire. He's got two years to make it happen and he's 2/3 there (recruiting and defense).
Lost close game to UCLA. Then they lost to Washington State at home by 7 pts, which was like WTF.
This week they come back and just trounce Oregon.
The last Arizona team with 10 wins was Dick Tomey back in 1998 (12-1). I think RichRod will be the next UA coach to hit that mark.
Would love to see Wildcats kick the shit out of Todd Graham and ASU next weekend.
Todd Graham might be looking for his next job next week. Hell, he has been at ASU for 2 years so it has to be time to take another offer right?
FWIW, Graham is a former Rodriguez staff member at West Virgnia.
Oregon has become very cocky the past two years and to see Nike's team buried is always fun. De'Anthony Thomas should thank Arizona for whipping his teams ass so that he doesn't have to go to the Rose Bowl again because "It's, whatever!"
Basketball is here!
Since we are doing this, I guess the question is this. Would you rather be in "who knows RR year 6" or Hoke year 3. I am in the RR camp and think UM would be in a better position. I agree that he was a disaster, but I think if he ever got support he would have worked out the D and the O would be elite by now. I see the other side though too, but to me, the "other side" is what we have now. Average to below average everything with the chance of a Big 10 title game every few years and a guy that claps his hands a lot and doesn't wear red or green.
Imaginary teams usually are better than real ones.
you are both right.
Rich rod could not recruit nor develop talent. Just looks at his non-existent 2010 class at Michigan today. And you wonder why we suck now.. Where the hell are our seniors?
As if Jeff Casteel was the only defensive coordinator in the history of college football who could've coached Michigan to a defense better than 110th in the country
He wasn't really given a fair shake here. Was never going tone accepted. Hope he wins all of his games....unless we play him.
Here's to greener pastures next year. Hope we can turn this shitwagon around.
Holy crap this entire website is a trainwreck.
Yes, I fully understand the hypocisy in posting this.
as fail, but conveniently ignore Carr 2005 class fail and otherwise mailing it in on recruiting during his final years. C'mon.
In Arizona. Maybe the reason it didn't work in Michigan is the school didn't give RR any money to bring the DC he designed the defensive scheme with like Arizona did. RR is a great coach who was set up to fail by Michgan. I'm Very happy for him and would bet he wins a Rose Bowl before we do.
Haha. Our defense took it up the ass a few times this year - including to Indiana. That doesn't mean I'm abandoning the system. All I'm saying is it's clearly working out in Tucson. They held the best offense in the country to 16 points.
You're wrong. Baylor's the best offense in the country.
Then again, maybe neither offense is quite as good as everyone thought.
anyone notice that in shit rod's _best_ season we were on average outscored by 3 points per game? we've got a ways to go to match that dipshit's futility.
I'm guessing, you haven't watched any Michigan games this season...
well, we would never have a hope and a prayer of beating Oregon.
Is not Michigan Football. Win games Hoke, I trust in thee.
Sorry I can't help it... even GERG is kicking ass at Texas!
I can only imagine what RR would have done with a healthy senior Denard.
How the fuck do you let this thread start? "not trying to start any flaming" Oh bull-fucking-shit. This is flamebait at it's finest. I hope the jackass OP gets banned.
wow. that is all.
You are the fuck stick that needs to get banned.
We've officially hit an all-time Mgoblog basement low.
Your diatribes ruined everything with your whining and winging. Thankfully I'm too drunk to care anymore. Thanksgiving now for apathy.