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November 30th, 2011 at 9:51 PM
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OT: Apology from the CC students

First off, I know this belongs in the other thread. But on behalf of every student at CC, I apologize if in fact this letter was written by a CC student. We are all devastated at school, and about at least 400 students went to see the Dean today to express their displeasure with the letter. Cass Tech is a great institution and had the better football team and we respect that. We just don't like the negative view we are getting from the media and from Michigan. We know that this doesn't represent CC and we know that it's alot better there than what people paint us out to be. We just hope this thing dies down and we can actually focus on our classes and final exams instead of getting interviewed by Channel 4 in school and taking a ton of criticism when we go out in public with any CC gear on. As students, we should not have to put up with this crap. 

 

If the Mods feel this is offtopic, please feel free to delete but I just wanted everyone to know what we as the students had to say

THIS IS MICHIGAN

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November 30th, 2011 at 9:55 PM | Thanks.  Well spoken high (Score:4 Normal)
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Thanks.  Well spoken high schooler. I think everyone knows it isn't "CC" writing the letter, rather it is probably just some grumpy fart.

-Chet

What you see is the hard work he's put in. It's nature. It just all comes together.

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November 30th, 2011 at 9:58 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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bow bow

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November 30th, 2011 at 10:05 PM | As a graduate of a rival (Score:5 Normal)
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As a graduate of a rival school, thank you for this letter, but I still hope you lose every hockey game of eternity. 

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November 30th, 2011 at 10:05 PM | Pretty Sure... (Score:5 Normal)
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...that no one here assumed it was actually from a Catholic Central student, or that even if it was, it was a loner seeking attention. The more it was read, the more it seemed like one of the random assholes that wants to look like something while sitting in mommy's basement. Unfortunately, they did this at your expense and at the same  time disparaged what is in fact a pretty damn good school in Cass Tech. 

Nobody wins there. I know people who are alums of both schools and I know they are all better than that. It's sad that the "sore losers" of the world also have broadband. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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November 30th, 2011 at 10:08 PM | WE BEAT OHIO!...... Enough (Score:5 Normal)
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WE BEAT OHIO!...... Enough said

I'm known to many as the songbird of my generation.

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November 30th, 2011 at 10:26 PM | From a Cass Tech Alum (Score:4 Normal)
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I appreciate this. 

Maybe you guys can plan a charity event where both schools participate...Maybe a mixed school (1/2 CT, 1/2 CC on each team)..guys and girls... tug-of-war or something where the teams compete and raise money for charity.

 

Shawn

CT Class of 91

UM Class of 96

C/O 1996 BABY!

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December 1st, 2011 at 10:33 AM | girls? (Score:1)
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we don't have any of those lol

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November 30th, 2011 at 10:28 PM | No need to apologize... (Score:3 Normal)
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But it is appreciated nonetheless.

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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November 30th, 2011 at 10:42 PM | No apology necessary. (Score:1)
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As a couple others have said, I don't think anyone thought this actually came from a CC'er - or at least one that can claim to be representative of CC as a whole. Well said, though. 

Chicago Blue!

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November 30th, 2011 at 10:48 PM | What efforts are being taken to ID letter? (Score:1)
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Does someone at Cass Tech have the letter in their possession? Can someone clearly identify the signature? If they ID the perp, will he/she be held accountable?

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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November 30th, 2011 at 11:10 PM | It has gotten to be a little weird. (Score:1)
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Do we know, yet, how the photograph of the letter got on the 'net?  Was it sent to Wilcher?  Did Wilcher release it for that sort of strange "publication"?

Has any "Jack Baughman" been located?

I'm really curious about the details on how the story got to this stage, because there are so few clear answers.

I have no problem accepting CC's statement that they have no record of a student, parent, alum or staffer with that name.  It's good to issue such a press release.  And I think it is a credit to the CC students to have done what the OP reported to us.

You should get a massive pos-bang for this, michiganfan39.  Count my +1.

Birmingham Seaholm went through a somewhat similar incident last spring.  There was a story about some anti-Black graffiti, if I recall correctly.  The story then got stranger before it got resolved, when a Black student was tagged for the incident.  There was even prosecutorial involvement and a curious charge of ethnic intimidation.  In the meantime, understandably, a whole lot of general racial tension, over one misguided student's hard-to-explain act of vandalism.  It was a very valuable lesson, in keeping a cool head and waiting for a careful inquiry into what really happened.

 

 

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December 1st, 2011 at 12:01 AM | Whichever article I read said (Score:2 Normal)
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Whichever article I read said that the name was nowhere in the CC student or alumni database.

All-Time First

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December 1st, 2011 at 9:28 AM | I talked to the Internets last night... (Score:2)
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and they said that if you go to the Oracle, she will shed some light on people with that name that live in Michigan.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Jack+Baughman+Michigan

Looks like there is only one.  Based upon the age listed, I am guessing bitter dude who blames others for his problems.

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November 30th, 2011 at 11:14 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
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Wilcher posted the letter on Facebook but took it down soon after.

I bleed blue.

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November 30th, 2011 at 11:31 PM | I saw the letter last night (Score:5 Funny)
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I saw the letter last night on the twitters and was incensed.  Never did I assume it was a CC student or family member, rather some old crumudgeon living a sad lonely life.

Cass Tech doesn't deserve to be the subject of such a hateful words but the good folks of CC don't deserve to be blamed for the actions of some miserable parasite.

My dad AND step dad were high school classmates* at the old CC so I know it produces good character men. 

*and best friends.  Not so much anymore.  lolz

"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
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December 1st, 2011 at 12:19 AM | I'm a CC '98 grad... (Score:2)
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...and to this day Cass Tech's 116-115 3OT victory over CC in the '98 state regional final at Fordson is the best sporting event I've ever seen in person.  I think Chris Young had something like 44/20 in that game. Cass Tech's stud was D. Bryant.

Anyway, congrats to Cass Tech on their state title, and hopefully this nonsense blows over.  Obviously whoever sent that letter is an ignorant zero, but c'mon, Wilcher's gotta have a little more common sense than that.  Be above that crap.

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December 1st, 2011 at 10:31 AM | I was at that game too (Score:1)
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I remember joe jonna getting like 4 attempts from deep in the last 10 seconds before he finally buried the tying 3.

also, lusky was hacked on the final play.

that is all.

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December 1st, 2011 at 12:37 AM | This whole thing is sad.  It (Score:1)
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This whole thing is sad.  It would not surprise me if this letter were written by a white man, a black man, in Detroit or in the suburbs.  People do some strange things.  Let's move on.

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December 1st, 2011 at 7:00 AM | Let's throw CC a pity party.  (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Let's throw CC a pity party. 

Bless You Boys!

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December 1st, 2011 at 10:32 AM | who hurt you? (Score:0 Flamebait)
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December 1st, 2011 at 7:41 AM | As a proud Cub: (Score:1 Normal)
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Yeah, sure. No Shamrock could have written it. You guys still haven't figured out that Shamrocks are GREEN!



/s... BIGTIME!



Seriously though, way to stand up for your school. Between the repeated trouncings, I remembered CC students as generally sportsmanlike and gentlemanly (if misguided regarding the actual location of their school when being named in print). It would surprise me if a student or alum wrote it, too. I'm with the board in chalking it up to some curmudgeonly crank. Good on ya for standing up for your classmates and what is right.

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December 1st, 2011 at 9:32 AM | My apology (Score:1)
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I put a post on this thread that offended several people. It is clear to me after reading the comments that I took far too narrow a view and my post was insensitive to how offended people were by that awful letter. That is my fault and I am truly sorry. I was trying to defend CC, lost perspective and came off verry poorly. And Shirtless - no I did not write that letter nor do I think like the author. I regrett that my post caused you to think that about me.



I am very sorry that I hijacked this thread.

"Nobody cares what you think!"

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December 1st, 2011 at 2:33 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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I didn't really think you wrote it. I just wanted to make it was clear that I was responding to you not M-Wolverine. I wanted to change the headline but had to leave for work and couldn't make the change from my phone.



Your sentiment was good. Except for the part where it kind of read as if you were blaming the victim, which you clarified in a post that was also deleted.



I have no hate for CC. We rushed your field after winning at CC one year (wherever you were playing that night) and then went out with a combination of people from both schools afterwards.

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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December 1st, 2011 at 3:18 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Thanks. I actually appreciate you all calling me out. I learned that if a half dozen people tell you you've said something stupid, you probably have and need to fix it.

"Nobody cares what you think!"

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December 1st, 2011 at 10:59 AM | No need to apologize because of the actions of one rogue (Score:2)
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A class move none-the-less.

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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December 1st, 2011 at 11:05 AM | My Grandfather.... (Score:3 Normal)
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My Grandfather was a Shamrock eons ago. If anyone pulled something like this back in the day, they would have had to step in the boxing ring with Father French. Aparently that's a no win situation...

Florida Wolverines have dreadlocks...

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December 1st, 2011 at 11:55 AM | michanfan39.... (Score:2 Normal)
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CLASSY post! You are a example of why I continue to frequent this board over the years...GO BLUE!

Lucky enough to have my own JT wristband!!

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