robbyt003

June 26th, 2012 at 1:32 PM ^

Do these guys need a curfew?  This is getting out of control!  Pretty soon we will have to call Shane Falco and the replacements to play the first few games because the entire team will be suspended.  

HenneGivenSunday

June 26th, 2012 at 1:41 PM ^

For a team that's on the way up, let's hope these don't become major distractions.  They're already looking at having at least 2 players suspended to start the season.  Aaron Berry isn't even that young anymore, he should definitely know better (all of these guys should).

WMUgoblue

June 26th, 2012 at 1:43 PM ^

So who's going to be the one to get cut, which will finally send a message? Seriously how dumb can you be with everything else thats happened this offseason.

Moleskyn

June 26th, 2012 at 1:45 PM ^

What I don't get...

This is not the standard of behavior we expect from any member of our organization. We have strongly and repeatedly emphasized the need to be accountable on and off the field...

Really? The message must not be getting through. I know these players are responsible for their actions, but somebody needs to be made an example of. I don't have the time to look this up right now, but how many Lions have now had run-ins with the law this offseason? And what have been their punishments?

Jmilan

June 26th, 2012 at 1:50 PM ^

Doesn't the NFL provide a car service where an armed escort picks you up in a Hummer or an Escalade or any type of vehicle that you request at any time of day? I thought I had heard something like that after Braylon got his DUI. I am also pretty sure that if this does exist it is free of charge and just goes on the NFL's tab. I could be wrong though.

GoBlueInNYC

June 26th, 2012 at 2:26 PM ^

There have been a lot of articles about this with all the DUIs this off season. Apparently the NFL (or maybe the Players Association, I forget) does provide a car service. But tensions between players and owners has gotten so bad that players are paranoid that the league keeps track of use of the car service, and they don't want it being used against them in contract negotiations (e.g., "We have evidence that you were too drunk to drive on X occasions in the past Y seasons").

This logic doesn't make a whole lot of sense when they keep getting arrested for drunk driving, but that seems to be the view of a lot of these players. That they don't really trust the league, and therefore don't trust the car service that is provided by the league.

EDIT: Here's an article from CBSsports about it.

thisisme08

June 26th, 2012 at 3:20 PM ^

Well if they used the car service on other various occasions say to go get ice cream or from a midnight showing of a movie then problem solved and just because you use the car service after a night at the bar doesnt mean you were too drunk just that your responsible enough to not drive because your worth millions of dollars and have a team that needs you besides it doesnt take much to get past .08. 

UofM Die Hard …

June 26th, 2012 at 2:07 PM ^

A. Barry.   Dude, is dog shit.  Turns into burnt toast everytime someone throw's at him.

 

Lions finally become a contender and our defense decides to turn into hooligans...little kids need to act like adults

 

 

LSAClassOf2000

June 26th, 2012 at 2:46 PM ^

"This is not the standard of behavior we expect from any member of our organization." - the Lions' statement

I wonder if the players know what the expectations are though - they are professionals and such be treated with the same exacting standards as professionals in other fields. It is starting to become painfully clear that nobody in the Lions organization makes it a point to review and emphasize the sorts of behavior that would be expected, or if they do, they are not terribly effective at doing so.

At this point, there has to be some sort of emphasis on driving a uniform expectation of conduct (they can even write it up and paste it on the wall somewhere - companies do that) into the heads of the team rather than reacting individually to these messes, and it might take someone being "the example" (possibly through a punishment above and beyond league recommendations), but then there has to be consistency, because mitigating these problems will certainly be a long-haul effort.

I wouldn't suggest anything drastic like cutting people unless someone did something that was a dealbreaker, if you will, but changing the attitude and behavior - if that's what we want - would start in part with a single clear message that would be applied equally to all. I am not sure how this would go over with a team of mostly millionaires, but someone needs to try something new and innovative at this juncture.

ClearEyesFullHart

June 26th, 2012 at 3:57 PM ^

Anyone else cant wait to see Matthew Stafford's big ole melon in a ski mask?

No...Jason Hanson tearing up a sorority.  The times we live in.

 

 

los barcos

June 26th, 2012 at 3:59 PM ^

completely with the detroit spartans comment - watching this defense last year melt down time and time again made me feel like a spartan fan.  it felt....dirty. i love the lions but this team is hard to root for sometimes.

jdog

June 26th, 2012 at 3:12 PM ^

draft strategy is bearing fruit:  select the best player available (with off-the-field problems that other teams have passed on). 

French West Indian

June 26th, 2012 at 3:57 PM ^

Since all of these arrests seem to be outside of Detroit, the real problem these guys seem to be having is adjusting to environments where there are actually enough police officers to patrol streets.  You live & work in downtown Detroit you get used to certain things.  But then one day you happen to be driving in Pennsylvania and suddenly it's a whole new turned around situation and you have got to adjust.

Heinous Wagner

June 26th, 2012 at 4:14 PM ^

May be time to repurpose that old Packer joke from the 80s:

Why did the state of Michigan build a new minimum security prison in Allen Park?

So the Lions could walk to work.

Lac55

June 26th, 2012 at 6:20 PM ^

I love some Jim Schwartz but come on now. You gotta take control of this thing. It wouldn't help to have some sort of veteran leadership to go along with Schwartz laying down the law.

Perkis-Size Me

June 26th, 2012 at 9:21 PM ^

The Madden Curse is being taken to a whole new level. Instead of one player going down, now the whole team has to go down too. Why? Because its Detroit. Because the world will end before that team can hoist the Lombardi Trophy.

Pretty soon, Stafford's going to be arrested for running meth labs.