Jeebus. I'm so happy we're relevant now but I sure as shit didn't want to be 'that' team.
at least it's not just us?
Jeebus. I'm so happy we're relevant now but I sure as shit didn't want to be 'that' team.
Do these guys need a curfew? This is getting out of control! Pretty soon we will have to call Shane Falco and the replacements to play the first few games because the entire team will be suspended.
Time for the Fords to get these idiots a fleet of cars and drivers.
They get a car and driver whenever they want. Suh, is one of the only players that uses it all the time.
Can they subcontract out driving duties for Suh when he visits Portland? Bad things seem to happen when he gets behind the wheel there.
At least the other idiot drunks seem to be good at football.
For a team that's on the way up, let's hope these don't become major distractions. They're already looking at having at least 2 players suspended to start the season. Aaron Berry isn't even that young anymore, he should definitely know better (all of these guys should).
So who's going to be the one to get cut, which will finally send a message? Seriously how dumb can you be with everything else thats happened this offseason.
What I don't get...
This is not the standard of behavior we expect from any member of our organization. We have strongly and repeatedly emphasized the need to be accountable on and off the field...
Really? The message must not be getting through. I know these players are responsible for their actions, but somebody needs to be made an example of. I don't have the time to look this up right now, but how many Lions have now had run-ins with the law this offseason? And what have been their punishments?
According to Pride of Detroit (the SBNation Lions site), the arrests this off season has matched the Lions' total arrests in the preceding 7 years (i.e., 6 arrests from 2004-2011 and 6 arrests this past off season). So one could argue that until recently, the Lions were in fact an organization that very limited legal issues.
I think this is just a cut 'n paste response. Just like the cut 'n paste apology that the athlete is required to give.
What isn't cut 'n paste is the twitter stuff, tho! His post that he deleted is a little more telling of his real attitude.
Doesn't the NFL provide a car service where an armed escort picks you up in a Hummer or an Escalade or any type of vehicle that you request at any time of day? I thought I had heard something like that after Braylon got his DUI. I am also pretty sure that if this does exist it is free of charge and just goes on the NFL's tab. I could be wrong though.
I don't know, but the Lions should consider Mike Partlow's services.
There have been a lot of articles about this with all the DUIs this off season. Apparently the NFL (or maybe the Players Association, I forget) does provide a car service. But tensions between players and owners has gotten so bad that players are paranoid that the league keeps track of use of the car service, and they don't want it being used against them in contract negotiations (e.g., "We have evidence that you were too drunk to drive on X occasions in the past Y seasons").
This logic doesn't make a whole lot of sense when they keep getting arrested for drunk driving, but that seems to be the view of a lot of these players. That they don't really trust the league, and therefore don't trust the car service that is provided by the league.
Well if they used the car service on other various occasions say to go get ice cream or from a midnight showing of a movie then problem solved and just because you use the car service after a night at the bar doesnt mean you were too drunk just that your responsible enough to not drive because your worth millions of dollars and have a team that needs you besides it doesnt take much to get past .08.
If I had a car service at my disposal anytime and anywhere, I wouldn't even bother owning car. They could chauffeur me everywhere.
Cool shirt, but I'll take the Bad Boys who garnered that reputation while actually playing their sport.
I thought the point of hiring The Schwartz was because he was tough and didn't take this stuff from his players. Right?
Dantonio has that reputation too.
Yes, but the Swartz is not with him.
To the contrary, it's entirely expectable.
Hey Lions players...grow the F up.
A. Barry. Dude, is dog shit. Turns into burnt toast everytime someone throw's at him.
Lions finally become a contender and our defense decides to turn into hooligans...little kids need to act like adults
No weed? What team does he think he's on?!
"This is not the standard of behavior we expect from any member of our organization." - the Lions' statement
I wonder if the players know what the expectations are though - they are professionals and such be treated with the same exacting standards as professionals in other fields. It is starting to become painfully clear that nobody in the Lions organization makes it a point to review and emphasize the sorts of behavior that would be expected, or if they do, they are not terribly effective at doing so.
At this point, there has to be some sort of emphasis on driving a uniform expectation of conduct (they can even write it up and paste it on the wall somewhere - companies do that) into the heads of the team rather than reacting individually to these messes, and it might take someone being "the example" (possibly through a punishment above and beyond league recommendations), but then there has to be consistency, because mitigating these problems will certainly be a long-haul effort.
I wouldn't suggest anything drastic like cutting people unless someone did something that was a dealbreaker, if you will, but changing the attitude and behavior - if that's what we want - would start in part with a single clear message that would be applied equally to all. I am not sure how this would go over with a team of mostly millionaires, but someone needs to try something new and innovative at this juncture.
Well, it's not like these guys signed million-dollar contracts and have resources available to keep them out of trouble.
Cut him...After all that's happened this off-season chances have ran out
Anyone else cant wait to see Matthew Stafford's big ole melon in a ski mask?
No...Jason Hanson tearing up a sorority. The times we live in.
completely with the detroit spartans comment - watching this defense last year melt down time and time again made me feel like a spartan fan. it felt....dirty. i love the lions but this team is hard to root for sometimes.
draft strategy is bearing fruit: select the best player available (with off-the-field problems that other teams have passed on).
Now hold on a minute. The Lions took Reiff this past draft, and other teams clearly passed on him because of his tiny little arms, not any off the field issues. Totally different thing.
....and still be a bad ass.
False. Passed on jenkins for an injured WR. Clearly a return to the dominant milen strategy. MOAR receivers!!!
False. Janoris Jenkins was drafted 39th overall by the St. Louis Rams. Broyles was taken 54th overall. Unless you meant A.J. Jenkins (another, albeit healthy, WR), but he was taken 30th overall by the 49ers. Those are the only two Jenkins taken in the draft.
The photo in the linked article is funny. It looks like he is drunk and performing a sobriety test for the refs. Haha.
I expect Berry to get busted for weed in the next month. These only happen in twos for the lions.
Who cares? Aaron Berry is garbage..
Since all of these arrests seem to be outside of Detroit, the real problem these guys seem to be having is adjusting to environments where there are actually enough police officers to patrol streets. You live & work in downtown Detroit you get used to certain things. But then one day you happen to be driving in Pennsylvania and suddenly it's a whole new turned around situation and you have got to adjust.
May be time to repurpose that old Packer joke from the 80s:
Why did the state of Michigan build a new minimum security prison in Allen Park?
So the Lions could walk to work.
Next Lion to misbehave should be punched by Titus Young. Now that's justice.
I love some Jim Schwartz but come on now. You gotta take control of this thing. It wouldn't help to have some sort of veteran leadership to go along with Schwartz laying down the law.
As much as I think that Schwartz runs the team much too loosely and without proper discipline the blame shouldn't go to him. These are grown men and know the difference between right and wrong. It isn't college and these aren't kids.
The sad thing is that these threads are popping up almost as much as the NCAA Dynasty threads.
The Madden Curse is being taken to a whole new level. Instead of one player going down, now the whole team has to go down too. Why? Because its Detroit. Because the world will end before that team can hoist the Lombardi Trophy.
Pretty soon, Stafford's going to be arrested for running meth labs.
Lump all the arrestees together and trade them for "a player who won't be arrested to be named later"
1. MAKE SURE YOU DON’T SUCK
Before you go out and start committing crimes, it’s important to first make sure you’re at least slightly better than the 30 or 40 guys the team’s assistant GM could instantly pull off some practice squad to replace you. Otherwise you will become fodder for the team’s zero-tolerance discipline policy...