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October 19th, 2013 at 11:52 PM
(Reply to #367) #2102
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I still don’t know why they did not do more to

upgrade the bullpen.Depending upon a rookie and then trying to make up for it with Valverde, Veras, and Benoit was a huge mistake.

 

The Tigers are at a crossroads. They probably will losr Scherzer after the 14' if they don't trade him by then and they still are stuck with the ten ton stone called Prince Fielder's contract. They will lose VMart and Peralta as well.

 

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:54 PM
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Fielder's contract is just

Fielder's contract is just awful.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:57 PM
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Benoit had a 2.00 ERA

Lumping him in with Valverde is BS. One grand slam doesn't change the fact that he had a good year overall.

I do agree with the overall sentiment though, they should have tried to do more by the deadline in addition to acquiring Veras. Thought they could have taken a gamble on Brian Wilson before LA did, for example.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:01 AM
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The bullpen debacle is fair

The bullpen debacle is fair criticism on Dombrowski, but it also doesn't help that Villarreal became a huge liability, Coke disappeared after a fantastic postseason, Dotel's elbow finally exploded, and Rondon didn't make the leap as quick as we all had hoped.

He should have gotten another LOOGY though, once it became clear that Coke was going to be generally awful.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:07 AM
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Agreed. What a train wreck in Pen

& not all of it self-induced. Al Al was flat unhittable before bonked on noggin in batting practice. Since he finally came back, he's alternated unhittable with 3 walks on 12 pitches then a double.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:48 PM
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hard way to lose

starting pitching was so good this series, that's usually enough

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:48 PM
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Well this sucks. Good series

Well this sucks. Good series I guess, can't believe two grand slams won them the series. So many missed opportunities, but that's baseball. Boston fans are insufferable too.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:48 PM
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In all honesty

Who can be hired to replace Leyland?

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:55 PM
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I'm assuming you mean Joe

I'm assuming you mean Joe Maddon....and no he's not leaving his comfy, no pressure job in Tampa.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:53 PM
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Ditka.

Ditka.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:54 PM
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Leyland is not the issue.

Crappy players are and that is on Dave Dombroski.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:56 PM
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Dude no way. He is the best

Dude no way. He is the best GM in baseball IMO

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:25 AM
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What? The Cards GM blows him away.

The guy has won a WS title and can possibly add a second. Meanwhile the Tigers haven't won a WS since the Reagan administration.

 

Dombroski has been around since 02' and hasn't won a title yet and I doubt he ever will. He alternates horrid decisions with briliant ones. Strangest  job performance GM/President I have ever seen.   

 

 

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:56 PM
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Seriously?

The guy just brought this team to ALCS for 3rd straight time. This team that had these million warts & hardly a redeeming quality as everyone keeps complaining about here. Have you seen Boston's payroll? And where were they last year? The angels? Where are they? & of course the Yankees. Sorry, but idea that Leland should go for this is nuts. (Too tired to fight spell on Leland's name...argh!)

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:10 AM
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Funny

But. You know? He was the last coach lions had that led them regularly to winning seasons and playoffs, so maybe... (Ok, might've had something to with #20)

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:27 AM
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Baseball is not like football.

Leyland cannot scheme to cover flaws. What he has is what he has.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:48 PM
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tigers bullpen

lets give a big round of appleause to tigers management for assembling this unit.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:56 PM
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I'm not turning on sports

I'm not turning on sports except for Michigan and Red Wings'. Hearing about how the Red Sox are healing the city and the city is rallying around them ad nauseum is going to be vomit inducing.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:53 PM
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Albuquerque pitched like a

Albuquerque pitched like a BOSS.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:54 PM
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Alright, God, let's get a

Alright, God, let's get a grand slam walk- off for some justice in the world.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:55 PM
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Game is in Boston

Game is in Boston

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:57 PM
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Shit, forgot.

Shit, forgot.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:56 PM
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koji uehara ain't shit

come on boys. make something happen

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:57 PM
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3 pitch k

that was fun to watch

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:58 PM
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that's soft

soft soft soft.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:58 PM
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Fuck that bunt

Fuck that bunt

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:59 PM
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I hate these freakin'

I hate these freakin' Japanese closers.

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:59 PM
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ok iglesias

make up for your error. keep this game going

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:59 PM
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fire leyland

fire leyland

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October 19th, 2013 at 11:59 PM
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Oh sure, he misses that

Oh sure, he misses that grounder

 

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:00 AM
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Man.

3 straight MVPs, 2 of last 3 Cy Youngs, and a few silver sluggers thrown in the mix. Nothing to show for it.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:00 AM
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Man I'm gonna feel awful if

Man I'm gonna feel awful if Iggy takes the brunt of this. I still really like him.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:03 AM
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No way that happens

No way that happens

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:03 AM
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Meh, he's young and the

Meh, he's young and the Tigers have a clubhouse full of good people, he should be fine. 

 

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:04 AM
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I just meant fan reaction.

I just meant fan reaction. I'm excited for him for our future.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:08 AM
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Only the mouth breathers that

Only the mouth breathers that call sports talk radio will blame it all on Iglesias, don't bother giving those people any portion of your time.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:01 AM
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Crap.

Crap.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:01 AM
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Shit.

Shit.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:02 AM
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Ugh.

Epic waste of an opportunity this season was.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:02 AM
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Goodnight 2013

Goodnight 2013

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:03 AM
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I hate the world

I hate the world

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:06 AM
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Please explain

Yourself

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:08 AM
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It doesn't matter

Leyland was 1-8 in the World Series anyhow. I guess you could use that in an argument.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:12 AM
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Not to mention, he is a

Not to mention, he is a complete and utter coward when it comes to dealing with Fielder.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:51 AM
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Best lineup in baseball, best staff

Since winning the AL weve had 15 playoff games and scored 3 or less 10 times. We played in the worst division in baseball with the best roster and had no homefield advantage.

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October 20th, 2013 at 2:45 AM
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In case you didn't know, the

In case you didn't know, the AL Central was not the worst division in baseball this year, actually far from it.

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October 20th, 2013 at 10:40 AM
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What would you say was the worst?

Definitely worse than the AL West and East. 

 

I guess the NL West was pretty bad.

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October 20th, 2013 at 11:19 AM
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Well the AL West was actually

Well the AL West was actually worse, so was the NL West and NL East. Don't forget the Tribe were in the play-in-game and the Royals competed for the Wild card.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:04 AM
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This series was lost in game

This series was lost in game 2.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:06 AM
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Agreed

Agreed... Game 2 was a game we just couldn't completely recover from, imo...

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:04 AM
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Sorry Mr. I. I just don't

Sorry Mr. I. I just don't think it's going to happen for you no matter how much you spend. You deserve better

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:33 AM
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No, he doesn’t. *

vv

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October 20th, 2013 at 9:07 AM
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yes he does

yes he does

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October 20th, 2013 at 1:05 PM
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What in the fuck is up with

What in the fuck is up with the "cc" and "vv" bullshit you're always doing

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:05 AM
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Hahha

+1 ftw

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:04 AM
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I thought 2012 couldn't get any worse

I thought 2012 couldn't get any worse... I was utterly wrong.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:06 AM
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Zero
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Ugh. This is how I feel right now...

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:08 AM
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So what now in all seriousness?

So what now in all seriousness??? We are running out of time on Miggy's contract. We have maybe the most useless long term deal in baseball right now with Fielder. Hunter's time is about up... One year left with Martinez... Next year feels like all or nothing to me at this point.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:36 AM
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It's gonna be

High-face girl in the gif.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:24 AM
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WMUgoblue
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That's a whole lot of

That's a whole lot of decisions that I'm glad I don't have to make....but let's pretend that I do.
 

  • Re-sign Miggy ASAP, make him a Tiger for the forseeable future
     
  • Extend Austin Jackson ASAP (he had a poor postseason but he has all the tools you want as a CF and middle of the order hitter)
     
  • Let V-Mart walk after 2014 and move Prince to full time DH and hope he becomes Big Papi 2.0
     
  • Either Trade Max this off-season or let it all out and hope we win the WS next year. If the latter is the case then we're only getting draft pick compensation for him, which isn't terrible the Cardinals are sure glad Pujols left because they used that draft pick on rookie stud Michael Wacha.
     
  • Use assets to acquire a few bullpen arms
     
  • Give Nick Castellanos a full season of AB's in LF and hope he lives up to his top prospect potential.
     
  • $$ Profit $$
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:36 AM
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BlueinLansing
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Dombrowski

has improved this team every year and I wouldn't be surprised if he did it again this off-season.

 

 

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:09 AM
#2163
NHWolverine
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That one hurt

However, to me Boston seems like they have the clubhouse rallying thing mastered. I'll give then credit where it is due: they were the better club in this one.



Oh I hate the Cardinals, I hope they get swept ceremoniously.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:25 AM
#2164
Moleskyn
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I haz a sad :(

Terrible way for the season to end. This series only magnifies the deficiencies we have in the bullpen. Gotta shore that up.

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October 20th, 2013 at 12:34 AM
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BlueinLansing
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We all knew the bullpen

was shoddy when the year began.  The price for good bullpen pitching was just too high, everyone wanted Castellanos.  Rondon ending the year injured hurt, he was your fireball throwing setup man this team needed.

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October 20th, 2013 at 8:05 AM
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Agree

The bullpen looked strong around August but injuries and inconsistencies caught up.this series was there for the taking, we made too many mistakes and couldn't hit with risp.

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October 20th, 2013 at 9:12 AM
#2167
Leonhall
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Bullpen

Needs reworking, wish we could get out of prince contract, he will be worse each year. I think Benoit is a FA. Resign him, rondon as your setup. Find a lead off hitter, Jackson should be moved down in order, not a lead off hitter, not sure our options for lead off, we can't afford ellsbury, thanks to horrible prince contract. Sign some guys who can move runners and not solely rely on homers...

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October 20th, 2013 at 1:10 PM
#2168
Cold War
Joined: 01/15/2012
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Long term, why not Nick at

Long term, why not Nick at third, Miggy at first and Prince at DH? You are better defensively and extend careers.

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