OT: ALCS Game 4 Open Thread

Submitted by Moleskyn on

Tigers vs. Rangers, game 4. Supposed to start at 4:19, but ESPN is saying tarps are still on the field and there is going to be a rain delay (link). The weather radar doesn't look too hot (link).

If they are able to get the game in, we will see Rick Porcello match up against Matt Harrison. Both had pretty mediocre regular seasons, and both have pitched decently in the playoffs so far. Also, Adrian Beltre, Delmon Young, and V-Mart are all slated to play.

Happy Gilmore

October 12th, 2011 at 9:43 PM ^

Benoit is dealing tonight (just picked off cruz stealing 2nd to end the inning) and we still have Valverde in the bullpen. The Tigs offense is going to blow up in either the bot 9th or 10th to end the game.

bryemye

October 12th, 2011 at 10:27 PM ^

The pick-off sequence is a loser move. Just is. Then Jackson getting caught stealing with Cabrera coming up was ridiculous. Why do you want to steal a base so badly there again? So that you're going even though you've gotten a ridiculously poor jump? Do we have that much confidence in Raburn?!

Sending Cabrera on that was also just a fucking absurdity. Come on.

MGoBender

October 12th, 2011 at 10:47 PM ^

No, you steal that base so that Raburn has a chance to win it.  You can't sacrifice him over because then they walk Cabrera.  It wasn't a terrible call, just a perfectly executed throw and catch.

We're losing the series to a much better team, we don't need to start playing the blame game.

bryemye

October 13th, 2011 at 12:02 AM ^

I don't want to risk not getting the best hitter in baseball (or one of) up in that situation so I have a chance to have Ryan Raburn at the plate with RISP. Sorry.

You have to know your team and Jackson just got an awful jump in a clutch situation. Even if he steals the base and Raburn gets out, as he's likely to do, you've again negated Cabrera because there's a base open. Just don't love that call.

exmtroj

October 12th, 2011 at 10:38 PM ^

It's like losing to ohio state because we went for it on 4th and 26 from our own 2 yard line with 1:00 left in the 4th and up by 2. Leyland's STUPID ass baserunning "strategy" pissed the whole dream away. An entire season of games end in misery because of THIS horseshit

MadtownMaize

October 12th, 2011 at 10:27 PM ^

are going to lose because they can not get a cutch hit to save their lives. Couldn't get one in game 1, culdn't get one in game 2 and didn't get one in this game. It is painful to watch.

The pitching was good enough to win.

wolverine1987

October 12th, 2011 at 10:29 PM ^

Tigers would have won already if Justin pitched, based purely on past performance and record likely he would have given up only 2 runs. But Leyland wouldn't risk "getting him hurt" in order to pitch him on three days rest tonight--even though pitchers have done that for 100 years, and there is zero proof that 4 days rest, which only became standard for pitchers roughly 20 years ago, has resulted in either 1- fewer injuries, or 2- improved performance. And Justin was eager to pitch. Pity.

cp4three2

October 12th, 2011 at 10:35 PM ^

All 4 starters only gave up 3 runs each.  A healthy lineup, or even a semihealthy lineup and we'd probably have won in 5 or 6.

There's nothing you can do. We win one more game during the season we're probably playing the Yankees right now.

Lionsfan

October 12th, 2011 at 10:49 PM ^

The Morning show guys on 97.1 looked up the stats, and in the postseason guys on 3-days rest have like an ERA over 5.0 and have won like 8 of like 30 games. So even if Verlander pitched well that's one game. There's still Games 5, 6, and 7 that Porcello, Scherzer, and Fister have to win. It won't even be them having to win it so much as our hitting still has to step up

wolverine1987

October 13th, 2011 at 8:48 AM ^

There is no long term evidence that guys on three days rest either 1, are more prone to injury, or 2, are less effective. It's not true. I do agree that lack of clutch hitting and injuries are a huge issue, but I would have much rather taken my chance, a good chance in fact, of Verlander giving up say 1 run over 8 or 9 innings and not even needing more hitting tonight.