Whoa! I've always thought facilities played a small role in recruiting, but after watching this video I must say it would be hard to turn this down.http://www.rolltide.com/allaccess/?media=394427
OT: Alabama's facilities might be better than Oregon
As a high schooler, I don't see the appeal of playing for possibly the most robotic man in the game. Hoke's family atmosphere impacts real athletes more than glamour or recruiting facilities ever could.
True. aside from facilities, championships, SEC ball, massive crowds, NFL scouts, high chances of being drafted, great competition, excellent coaching, and being the toast of the town, Bama football doesn't have much going for it.
All that stuff is nice, but they don't have any hot chicks there.
Wait . . . .what? Nevermind.
I understand where you are coming from. I mean I wouldn't want to play for this guy.
But like the other comment, you go to college thinking you will play someday in the pros, and Alabama, with the system they play, the NFL attention they get, and the conference they play in, is a very sexy college choice. Plus, brand new state of the art facilities only make Alabama an even cooler option in the eyes of recruits.
The impression of Saban's personality among the kids/families that Alabama recruits is certainly different from the impression among, say, the Michigan fan base. I'm friends with an older sister of a kid in last year's Alabama recruiting class, and she absolutely loves Saban -- he'd do things like call her on her birthday, and he was apparently at least passably charming in all their interactions. I make no claims about how ingenuous these interactions were, but the man's certainly capably of coming off as non-robotic.
We know other coaches often compare him to the devil but it gets worse.
Not sure if you saw but an Alabama fan compared Saban to Hitler and meant that as a compliment. So there is that.
You couldn't have watched the vid before you wrote your post. It is very difficult to argue with the level of success enjoyed by Alabama and the rest of the SEC.
Face reality....this is what we and the rest of the B1G are up against if the B1G wants to compete with the SEC for the same level of talent. Once you get past Michigan and Ohio, the talent level falls off quickly.
Lol at the idea that this is for player development and easier educational opportunities. This is to draw recruits. Period. And that's totally fine, but let's not pretend there is some higher purpose here.
But it most definitely is also for player development, health, and the overall team atmosphere. Having everything (and awesome stuff at that) in the same place like this, giving players a place they want to be all the time, and making it so they don't have to go to a bunch of different places, has definite benefits to the actual team as well., including already putting them in a place where their academic support staff already is. So now they go there, they can focus on working out, practicing, working together, hanging out, and get academic support all in a one-stop spot. It makes everything a ton easier for the players and puts them in a position and environment where team and football are obvious all the time, therefore also affecting results on the field.
I'll buy that it improves the comfort of the team but that lady said the lounge was great because it's the perfect place to give educational seminars on nutrition... It's a rec room with some nutri-grain bars and gatorade.. That is for fun, not education.
But it also means they are eating nutri-grain bars and drinking gatorade rather than getting high and drunk, at least to some degree. I guess in that sense it's educational.
You learn way more when high and/or drunk. And greatly increase the likelihood of eating nutri-grain bars. In conclusion, the rec room is meant to serve the drunk and/or high.
That rec room with nutri-grain bars and gatorade can't be the location of a nutrition seminar? I don't understand why they can't get the team or a portion of the team together to talk about nutrition at this location.
As an aspiring athletic trainer, that looks amazing. Hot and cold pools right there. Wow just wow.
I guess I just assume that any top level school would have both hot and cold pools and they would be setup within the same room. Maybe not as much glitz everywhere, and I did not watch with audio, but it doesn't seem "unique" that only bama would have this. But I guess I don't know really
Ummmmm, I was told there would be waterfalls in the locker rooms... Bama has to know that's my dealbreaker.
Part of the new era of college football is the arms race.
Completed Schembechler Hall is going to be amazing.
Here was Michigan's first football building. The Clubhouse-
It just simply amazes me how far college football has come.
I believe this would be an upgrade over Eastern's current facilities.
Every other college football program though...
Any architectural drawings/visuals of what the new Schembechler Hall is going to look like?
BTW, I think that Michigan's football building from way back in the day looks pretty sweet. Certainly not just a cinder block bunker with some hooks and a shower.
Well there's still the issue of "There's a waterfall in here??...I'd rather just have $20 to go spend on some dinner".
State Street yes. Main Street, no way.
Hey, don't talk shit about Mongolian Grill.
Hmmm I wonder where the revenue comes for this nice facility?
So really they are benefitting from their toil with this facility. They and they only can use this building.
So they already contribute to its existence. The poster's comment I replied to was asinine. No one is paying to see a kid half ass a polisci paper.
"Hi, I'm Nick Saban, an this is my crib."
sign me up
The only difference between Alabama and an NFL team is the players getting paid.
*Snicker*. There is no difference between Alabama and an NFL team.
Even their environmental science students are in on it.
That is actually human environmental science. It is also known as home economics. ;)
Sign me up
Looks like the best facilities in college football to me.
They did, but you missed it.
you have to live in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Gosh! That place is a dump.
I remember my three campus visits while in high school were Michigan, Cincinnati and Alabama.
The bus ride to Tuscaloosa was hell, it was hotter than hell down there and it was the most underwhelming campus of the 3.
For some reason UA had a love affair with my school district. They were at every college fair and had flyers all over my HS.
The idea is for players to have no reason to go anywhere else. Naturally female companionship will be (in theory) difficult but otherwise they want the players to work, play, study, and basically hang out there all the time. It makes it easier for them to work together as a unit. Perhaps more importantly it makes the job of watching the players easier in case they would want to rob a student or smoke some spice.
Extremely dominant right now I agree. This is the nature of college football, it's cyclical. Their time will soon pass...just like USC, Texas, Florida, etc. College football fans (especially Spartys) seem to have the shortest memories of any major sport. Whatever is happening now will happen forever...that's not how it works.
Is there a video of what Michigan's facilities look like these days? I just wonder how ours pale in comparison. I have to admit that our practice fields look way nicer for whatever that's worth...
Core family values, great facilities, the Big House, Chrysler Center, Hoke, Mattison, Beilein, Bacari ... Enuff Said..
What's the Chrysler Center?
Could be an autocorrect issue.
Gotta spend that money somewhere I guess
It is definitely very very nice. But, does anyone else think it's a little too flashy? There's too much going on all over the walls. And the close up of the guy basically celebrating with the helmet and the blacked-out facemask shield wtf? It's also very dark colors everywhere. It's a little ominous and sort of stressful looking. If that is what they were going for it's great, and they probably do have one of the nicest facilities. But, even if UM had everything done brand new with state of the art everything I don't picture it would ever look like that. It would be much simpler, lighter colors, and less flashy with more of a focus on tradition, which is sort of surprising because Alabama has so much tradition and history, but I just don't picture UM doing anything like that ever.
Those are some fantastic facilities, but I have to say, I was in Schembecler hall 2 years ago (or maybe it was 3???) and aside from the hot/cold pools, I'm not blown away by anything Bama's got there. Michigan's locker room is actually way nicer, IMO. The weight room doesn't have sky high ceilings like theirs, but the equipment is top notch. S.H. has a very nice player lounge as well and is no shabby place to hang out. The film and meeting rooms might not have theatre seats quite as nice as those, but are not lacking.
A place like that has to be a great draw for recruits, but I don't think Michigan is all that far behind.
Saban even lets the good players enjoy them for four years.
That's what 3 titles in 4 years gets you.
Those boys have earned it.
It won't hurt in pulling in top talent. More meat for the grinder and all that.
I may be in the minority here, but I don't see Saban being the type to "buy" players. If my son were ever to reach the level of being a D1 football player, I'd be happy as a pig in slop if Alabama recruited him. Hopefully, he would sign with Michigan, though. I really think Saban runs a clean program. They win titles and put players in the NFL. What high level recruit wouldn't want that? I do think other SEC programs are dirty, but not Bama. Urbs Imo, is a hell of a lot shadier than Saban. Just my opinion.
He seems to just find talent. Hell he did it at state. Saban is just a good coach period say what you will about him being demanding but the guy just flat out wins. If like to see the lions go for him after this year when they implode again.
Why go back to the NFL though?
He currently lacks parity and the difference is in his favor. With smaller rosters and salary caps that advantage will go away.
Everyone knows he is a control freak. He can't control a 35 year old man earning $1 million a year the way he can a 20 year old student.
He is the man in Tuscaloosa. He makes a huge salary and is treated as a god among men.
I don't see him leaving until he is ready to live on the lake full time. I see him having a very short retirement like so many other coaches.
Ego. He wants to cement his legacy as one of the best coaches of all time gotta win at the next level. You could have said the same about jimmy h at Stanford And it seems to be working for him.
But he has done the NFL and saw what that entails. He is in the Alabama Sports Hall of Fame and he will be in the College Football Hall of Fame. He is currently compared to Bryant and has won the same number of championships as John McKay.
He has an ego no doubt but I just don't see him making that jump again. Once bitten, twice shy.
Im very impressed. Almost slightly jealous.
Crazy BTN money to create something that rivals what Bama has. Folks like it or not this is an arms race, and those who don't keep up will be left in the backwaters of college football.
Now lets see the basketball, softball, baseball facilities. Money on it they are a dump!
This is college Bama not the NFL. Maybe all that cash could of been spent on the students.
but their softball facilities are probably about on par nationally with where their football facilities are nationally. They're as good as any I've seen stuff on, probably excepting Tennessee.