OT: Alabama Recruiting Pitch
Alabama recruiting handout hilites past player' NFLpaychecks:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/alabama-recruiting-…
Smart marketing or a new low in recruiting?
we should do something like..
4m$/yr - 9 players
>100k$/yr - 101 players ...for all your life + a michigan education
that's the michigan difference..
It seems like a cultural ideal. Many in the black community are without and strive to make it big. Their version of doing so is one in which they have many possessions aka materialism. This is the opposite of what they've experienced their entire life so it makes sense psychologically. However, it disempowers them. Money is evil and does evil more so than good. To emphasize such a thing is either cruel or unconsciously cruel. It's exploitation. In stark contrast, when you have a man who emphasizes honor, courage, and self worth he not only creates a stronger team, but a stronger and more worthwhile individual.
These days, getting upset over the recruiting message for athletes that may or may not make the cut, and this has always been the rub, is about personal confidence in ability. I don't give a shit where you went to school because the NFL doesn't care.
Can you do the work? Can you? If you can make it here, you can it anywhere. End of story. That is why a sixth round draft pick may be regarded as the best quarterback ever when he had to compete against the greatest recruit ever signed at Michigan who never made it in pro baseball or football. And not because of opportunity.
I have never concerned myself with the success of Nick Saban, who was forced out of the Big Ten by Michigan and Lloyd Carr and Michigan recruiting. And if you need evidence of that, go to the facts.
Have you ever wondered why Lloyd did what he did in regard to RichRod. Compared to what he went through to get where he got at Michigan, one of the great schools of our time, period.?
It's not for nothing, that Saban and Miles are products of the Big Ten. And that Urban Meyer, who is a remarkably great coach, who like Belichick, Saban and Parcells didn't emerge from the same marketplace.
Perhaps the most remarkable history is how Michigan's current coaching staff is so connected to the ghost of Big Ten football. And the SEC has just benefitted from opportunity.
Man, the modus operandi for the SEC is pathetic. And the big scumbag of 'em all was Ohio's golden boy, Urb. 31 players arrested during his tenure there. Could you imagine Bo letting that happen? I think it would have ended after one.
Saw a hilarious slam on Urb today. That always puts me in a good mood.
http://collegefootballmock.com/iphone-text/intercepted-text-aaron-herna…
My daughter is graduating from UM in May. Our whole famliy is so proud of her and what that degree will mean.
DW
To the 30 for 30 documentary Broke where college draft picks said they only considered the short term possibilities of having all that money and never onced bothered to consider that A) the money may not last and B) their careers may not last. Most didnt even bother with an education nor saving that money for latter times, they just wanted to spend that money to keep up with the Joneses.
Now most of them at that time were 22 to 23 year olds with a great amount of money earned in a short amount of time. It makes me wonder what will happen when these 17 to 18 year old kids will get paid hand over fist $1,000 of dollars or more by rich boosters who will pay to see them play at a high level and will only give them a certain amount dpending on how well they play that week or if they go to there school.
More then that there lifestyles and how they live them, dealing with young teenage girls who may try to get pregnant from these young men because they now have money and may end up with child support bills, how there crew or entourage will perceive these young 16, 17, 18 year olds as well as there families (Dee Liner), how they will blow money on wealth that may allude them latter in life. What kills me is that teams in the SEC seem to target young disadvantaged youths in communities where they should know most of this will occur, but they seem as if they honestly don't care. It makes wonder what this situation will be like 10 years down the road and how the kids in my generation will live then.
I saw Broke. So sad, what a waste of a college degree and a professional life.
I try to keep an open mind because I know (especially on this site) there is a lot of people in the world that are far more intellegent than I am.
When I opened this thread I fully intended to write a post bashing Nick Saban and Alabama for this tactic and say how this only further confirms what a douche the man is. After reading the posts I have changed that opinion.
I think both sides of the debate have valid points, but to me this doesn't seem any different than trying to attract the best students to your programs by selling what former students have done with an education from their institution.
As people in general we all want to be the best we can be. We want to make decisions that will enable us to be the best at what we choose to do and universities have to use things like this to lure the best students to their respective universities.
Saban is merely showing these kids that he has taken many former high school players and turned them into highly paid professional athletes. I don't see a difference between that and what individual departments in a university do when trying to attract the best students.
I know it's easy to pick the low hanging fruit (and finding things to harp on about Saban are clearly that), but if you look at this objectively I think it is hard to find an issue with what it is he is doing. Thanks to the many posters who helped me change my opinion on the subject.
All of your thoughts are valid, because no two 17 to 18 year old kids are the same when it comes to making this decision.
It should be obvious that Alabama recruits in a different way, and most of the kids coming in THINK they're going to be playing Sundays. We know better, but that is what they think. So this plays to their emotional hot button.
Alabama knows this and simply casts a large net to try to catch as many as they can. Until they over recruit and throw a few of the smaller ones back. Alabama and the SEC are acting more and more like the pros and that's sad. But it is what it is.
Welcome to a new twist to the recruiting trail. It makes the job that Hoke and crew seem more and more incredible.
Go Blue.
http://m.timesdaily.com/archives/article_37e30aa6-9fd4-5cc2-bbe4-3b81fb…
The athletic department is just making it clear that there was a great deal of success. It is marketing.