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February 21st, 2011 at 1:18 PM | Here's this for the Saban article (Score:1)
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Nick Saban was shown on the Coleman Coliseum video board Saturday night taking in Alabama's 69-56 win against Arkansas in men's basketball.

 

The Crimson Tide football coach was seated next to Hall of Fame running back Barry Sanders, and his sonBarry James Sanders.
 
The younger Sanders, out of Heritage Hall High School in Oklahoma City, is being recruited by Alabama and was on campus as the school hosted its junior day for several top prospects in the Class of 2012.
 
The arena camera briefly captured Saban and the younger Sanders before zeroing in on Saban and the elder Sanders, drawing a loud roar from the 15,383 fans. It was then that many UA football fans began chanting, "We want Barry," a plea for the younger Sanders to play for the Tide.
 
Now the question is did Alabama commit an NCAA violation by showing the younger Sanders to the crowd?
 
An Alabama spokesman Sunday night said no violation was committed.
 
"Our compliance office is aware of this claim and has looked into it," Alabama spokesman Doug Walker wrote in an e-mail. "Based on that inquiry, it was determined that no violation was committed."

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:19 PM | Also the infraction in question (Score:1)
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Several websites have referenced NCAA rule 13.11.5, which states, "An institution may not introduce a visiting prospect at a function (e.g., that institution's sports award banquet or an intercollegiate athletics contest) that is attended by media representatives or open to the general public."

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:25 PM | I wonder what Alabama's (Score:1)
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I wonder what Alabama's compliance office does consider a violation.

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:34 PM | Does Alabama even have a (Score:1)
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Does Alabama even have a compliance office?

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:45 PM | Works for medical schollies and (Score:1)
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"GTFO campus, we've gray-shirted you" letters as well

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:49 PM | Compliance loophole office.  (Score:1)
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Compliance loophole office. 

For my privacy, my new username is "non-Oriental non-Andrew"
 

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February 21st, 2011 at 2:01 PM | Oh so Saban is the compliance (Score:1)
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Oh so Saban is the compliance office? Now I see.

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February 21st, 2011 at 10:00 PM | Best Job in the World (Score:1)
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There wouldn't be anything to do but watch TV and get paid.  "Nope, no problem with that Mr Saban."

 

 

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February 21st, 2011 at 2:17 PM | Wonder what Alabama's compliance office considers a violation? (Score:1)
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Not signing to play for Alabama.


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February 21st, 2011 at 3:47 PM | Does this look like a coach who cares about the NCAA? (Score:1)
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"Look up, get up, and don't ever give up"

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February 21st, 2011 at 8:06 PM | This is why I love the (Score:1)
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This is why I love the internet.

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February 22nd, 2011 at 10:41 AM | croom (Score:1)
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What is sylvester croom doing in the background?

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:29 PM | What a surprise (Score:1)
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Saban plays by his own rules.  He is a master at skirting and finding loop holes.  Probably why he is such a good recruiter.

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February 22nd, 2011 at 3:45 AM | Saban (Score:1)
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Usually these kind of folks become lawyers and we are forewarned to take cover. Let them coach in the SEC and there is no end to the damage they can do. Oops, I apologize for insulting lawyers by mentioning them in the same paragraph as the SEC.

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:43 PM | yes (Score:1)
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I was at that game and chanting.  Looking back I think I'm glad he didn't come to U of M.

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:46 PM | Don't neg the man for the (Score:1)
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Don't neg the man for the truth.

I think the difference here though is that they didn't show Pryor on the jumbotron, recruiting-minded fans just saw him and started the chant. It would be absurd to say recruits couldn't be brought to sporting events, but putting the camera on them is a bit ridiculous.

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:59 PM | If this is really about a camera guy (Score:1)
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focusing on Saban, then this is just a stupid conversation.

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February 21st, 2011 at 2:04 PM | I think that's what qualifies (Score:1)
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I think that's what qualifies as "introducing" him as mentioned in the rules above. If the camera was just on Saban it's one thing, but from the description  the camera was on Jr. first and for a while, then panned over to Saban/Sr.

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February 21st, 2011 at 2:19 PM | Your point still stands (Score:1)
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Your point still stands completely and this is no way takes away from your criticism of our homeristic hypocrisy, but in the interest of historical correctness we chanted "come to Michigan" and pointed to him in rythym with the chant. The game was against Iowa and it was a sellout I think entirely because of Pyror - I think one of maybe two sellouts that season.

Could be worse. Could have been Kinesiology.

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:30 PM | I thought Barry Sr. had little contact (Score:1)
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with this son?  I saw Sr. at the Woodward Dream Cruise a few years back with his much younger boys.  If he still lives in the area I'd think he'd like to have his son take a look at M.

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:33 PM | Don't think Barry Sr. (Score:1)
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has too much love for this area after what he went through.  

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February 21st, 2011 at 2:05 PM | AFAIK he still loves the area (Score:1)
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AFAIK he still loves the area and participates in community events, his issue was always with the Lions upper management, not the area.

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February 21st, 2011 at 2:30 PM | Yup (Score:1)
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Barry Sr. still lives in West Bloomfield.

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February 21st, 2011 at 1:45 PM | I kind of doubt that Saban (Score:1)
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I kind of doubt that Saban cares at this point about NCAA violations.  He's been skirting them since his days at MSU, and nothing has happened to him.  At this point, I'd figure I'm invincible as well.

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February 21st, 2011 at 2:34 PM | This is about right. (Score:1)
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I am drunk, or I wouldn't be talking to you.


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February 21st, 2011 at 3:11 PM | Saban feels safe in doing what he does; because he is. (Score:1)
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Anyone who gets this vibe that the NCAA soft pedals issues surrounding the power programs in the SEC, isn't see things.  The collective economic power of these schools is obvious. Remember, this thing we call a Championship game is a creature of contractural greed and has nothing to do with being an official NCAA event.  It involves two schools that are governed by the NCAA, but with regards to football, that oversight is shakey.

There are current rumblings that these power SEC schools won't abide by severe sanctions ever again.  The loss of prestige, the set back in recruiting, and the massive loss of revenue would be too much for their crazed alumni and fans to endure.  The theory goes that the NCAA fears that a crackdown (like with USC) would lead to a full out secession into an unregulated football super alliance. So the NCAA and SEC engage in this dance where the NCAA is allowed to keep oversight, but they wholly avoid cracking down too harshly on obvious cheating. 

This might be a reason why you see the SEC football powers operate with such intrepidness regarding rule compliance. Look at all that is going on: oversigning, bait and switch grey shirting, medical hardships, too many incidents of contact with agents to count, Saban flaunting his disregard for the bump rule, and the whole Cam Newton thing. Yet none of it results in much of anything in the way of penalties. It sort of just never sticks. It all just becomes old stories you can google search.   But instead, the NCAA hones in on Tennessee which is more or less bottomed out and everyone's favorite target Lane Kiffin.  A lot less possibility of blow back by doing that.  Makes you wonder.

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February 21st, 2011 at 3:27 PM | So, Jefferson Davis becomes the commish (Score:1)
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of the SECAA?  Seriously?  Secession and a separate association because of conferences' rights?

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February 21st, 2011 at 4:13 PM | Nate... (Score:1)
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Srsly...

Come on now...the reall money is in that basketball event next month as well (which the NCAA controls with an iron fist, curiously enough). This seems a bit too much like you're buying the conspiracy theories. Just sayin.

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February 21st, 2011 at 4:16 PM | Srsly... (Score:1)
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Srsly...

Double Posted

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February 21st, 2011 at 7:14 PM | TL;DR (Score:1)
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TL;DR,

I'm sure you made a shitty point/argument though.

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February 22nd, 2011 at 3:38 AM | Saban (Score:1)
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He may have done all those bad things, but his kids NEVER practiced an extra 15 minutes, no sir ! THAT is what constitutes a serious offense.

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February 21st, 2011 at 3:58 PM | Dee Hart and Bowl Practice (Score:1)
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Let's also not forget that Dee Hart was at a number of Alabama Bowl Practices. Which is not allowed either.

Bottom line is Saban doesn't care and until the NCAA smacks him down he will continue to over sign, side step recruiting rules, and do whatever he wants.

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February 21st, 2011 at 4:08 PM | I remember reading an article (Score:1)
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I remember reading an article about that and HaHa said that Dee actually went to the practices on his own and made contact with the staff. Granted that's one recruit saying something about another but under the eyes of the NCAA Alabama didn't didn't break any rules for that.

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February 21st, 2011 at 4:37 PM | Recruits can visit bowl (Score:1)
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Recruits can visit bowl practices open to the public, coaches just cannot come into contact with them at those events.

I'm going to laugh so hard when it ends up that Florida is the reason Alabama/ Ole Miss, et al have to stop their oversigning. (I would have said cheating, which I believe it is, but cheating is a little harsh for a non-flame post.)

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February 21st, 2011 at 7:27 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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You stay classy IhateMichigan

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February 22nd, 2011 at 3:36 AM | It is sad to see what college (Score:1)
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It is sad to see what college football has become over the last decade.

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February 22nd, 2011 at 10:15 AM | Thanks Guys (Score:1)
tyde75
Joined: 02/22/2011
MGoPoints: 2

Its really flattering to see you guys talking smack about Alabama way up here in the frozen wasteland. I'm pretty sure your in-state brethren are familiar with us...Maybe you all could ask them a few things about us. Or you can just wait until next year and see for yourselves...That is if you can talk while licking your wounds at the same time.

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February 22nd, 2011 at 10:22 AM | joined today, picking fights (Score:1)
BlueDragon
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Joined: 11/14/2010
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troll alert

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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February 22nd, 2011 at 10:32 AM | Ok Seriously (Score:1)
tyde75
Joined: 02/22/2011
MGoPoints: 2

The jumbotron image was from the Fox Sports camera man...It was also seen on live TV. The university did not "Introduce" Sanders at the event...nor did the crowd chant "We Want Barry"...and even if they did, that still isnt a violation of any kind. How many recruits do you think get seen on jumbotrons, or live television around the country? Especially during football seasons when theyre roaming around the sidelines during games. Now if you all want to discuss NCAA violations then by all means, feel free to dicuss OUR in-state rival. Trust me, theres PLENTY to discuss there.

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