Justin Abdelkader suspended for 2 games, Ken Holland said.
2 game suspension?...wow. What are they smoking in Toronto
I hate the NHL more than ever. Explain to me why Weber didn't get suspended then?
Fuck this fucking arm put of a hockey league with double standards.
I'd love to hear what Shanahan was thinking on this one.
After the Senators suspension he HAD to issue a suspension on this one. The Senators hit was absolutely clean and perfect... never should have considered a suspension except that (1) blood on ice, (2) stretcher, (3) Gary B. was in attendance. The Abdelkader hit could warrant a suspension, but after the idiotic decision with the Senators' hit... he HAD to suspend him because it was obviously worse. He DID leave his feet, hit the Ducks player's head, and extended his arms afterwards. The Senators player didn't do any of that and HE got 2 games. They are the ones with the real gripe here. But hey, I don't like suspensions at all... penalties are fine with me.
Downvoted for all the capital words.
If Shanny is quicker to fuck over the RWs so he doesn't get accused of favoritism? Cowardly move if so. That was a bullshit call in the game and he just made it even bullshittier..
I want to not hate shanny right but he's making it very hard.
As a player but he needs to be fired that's a bullshit ruling. Weber slammed the fuck out of z and didn't get shit. I'm sick of the NHL and its rules now these hits wouldn't happen if they were allowed to fight still. NHL is soft and should be ashamed of the way they are handling these rulings
Just terrible. The NHL is such a joke.
get intelligent people running things. Basically what I gather is teams are allowed to whatever the hell they want to the Wings (Weber slamming Zetterberg's head into the glass), and the moment the Red Wings get physical it results in a suspension on a play that wasn't even initially being called a penatly. A hit that at worst only warrented a two minute penalty, though I still think it was largely a clean hit.
Like I said I am done, Bettman, Shanahan and the other incompetent individuals running this league can stick it where the sun don't shine. And yes I included Shanahan because what he did as player for the Wings has no bearing on the piss poor job he has done in the league's front office. Shame to, because hockey is great sport when it is not being ruined by idiots.
The NHL is becoming just as soft as the NFL. Pro sports suck.
Those are still good to eat
just enough to get knocked out of the playoffs. . ..
You'll have that when you leave your feet aiming for the head. He's jumping up to hit his shoulder into that guys head. You guys crying about this suspension are pretty stupid.
Dvr I watch that hit 5 times and in slow mo he does not jump into him, the impact of the hit pushes his body up looking like he jump at him. There was no jumping. The only call I can see on that play is a charging.
A charge is when you keep skating. Abdelkader stopped skating 10 feet away and glided into the hit. The one thing everyone can totally agree on with this is that it's not at all a charge.
I don't put this one on Shanahan and get frustrated when people complain about him. He picture pages every decision and puts it on the Internet. He has also intimated as much as he can without getting fired that sometimes the league interferes with his rulings (eg Weber's hit). Bettman is an NBA slamma jamma, superstar oriented David Stern acolyte whose mission is to make hockey palatable to Southern Californians, ie more like the NBA. I bet you anything this ruling (and the weak-ass way they called the penalty on review as soon as they saw the head was impacted) came from upstairs.
Give Shanny a break. He's trying to make the NHL better and keeps his process for doing that as open as he can, but he works for an impish David Stern student. Anybody in that job would do worse.
is stupid, since it's a throwaway barb that can be used universally, but I digress.
The question is whether he left his feet to deliver a hit. From the film I've seen, Abdelkader didn't leave his feet until after making contact, which would make the charging call incorrect in the first place. I haven't seen anything from the league about head contact and that wasn't the call on the ice, so there's pretty much no reason to talk about whether or not Abdelkader targeted the head or not.
Edit: Watched Shanahan's video, and I think his version of events is wrong. He did mention contact to the head, but not in context of an illegal hit to the head under the head contact rule.
on the initial contact, and his feet were still on the ice when the initial contact was made. Don't what the hell replay you watched.
Regardless of what you think of the hit, it still doesn't explain how Weber can slam Zetterberg's head into the glass last year, and not get suspended for even one game.
The only stupid ones here are the idiots running the league, and anybody who would defend those idiots.
Was that the first hockey game you've ever watched?
Exactly, if it was Zetterburg (star) - no penalty no suspension.
Abdelkader second, third liner is 2 games.
I don't really have a problem with the suspension. Hard to argue he didn't make contact with his head and it directly resulted in an injury.
I understand people freaking out at the NHL, and it largely is justified. How Weber didn't get benched last year is absolutely beyond me, but that doesn't mean this hit was clean.
times and I still don't see direct contact with the head being made. It was primarly a shoulder to shoulder to hit, the injury could have very easily come on the fall after hit.
Have you watched the view looking directly at the Ducks player as Abs comes from the (right) side?
But that alone doesn't make a hit illegal, and certainly doesn't make it charging in any form. Shanahan would have more of a leg to stand on if he said the play was called incorrectly and suspended him based on Rule 48 (illegal check to the head). That at least has some subjectivity, and while I disagree with it I can at least see how the call would be defenseable.
He definitely made contact with the head.
In the first replay, you can tell that he starts to leave his feet before just before the hit. In the second view, you can tell, especially going frame-by-frame, that his left should makes contact with the head.
My take on it is that Abdelkader intended to make a clean hit on the upper body, however, the guy bent over a bit to brace for the hit and Abdelkader's should hit him in the head. Even if it's not intentional, I still think it's something that at least needs to be called in the game and potentially further penalized outside the game. If you leave room for incidental contact to the head, then you have to make judgement calls. It's better to err on the side of safety than the side of fairness. Since they don't seem to be consistent at all, it's hard to say that this is actually their reasoning, though.
What I really don't get is how you can allow punches to the head, but then get upset with incidental contact. This should either be a violent sport or it shouldn't be. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
What a joke. 2 games. I wasn't even clear he hit his head. This league is a joke. Shanahan needs to be fired he is doing a terrible job on remaining consistent and putting out terrible precedents. I guess Slamming someone's head against the board like Weber is okay, but not a hit that the refs didn't even blow the whistle on to begin with.
Perfect video embed OP.
for a reason. The people running things are definatly doing their best to change that though. Hockey has always been my second favorite sport to watch (behind college football), but stuff like this and the two lockouts really make it hard to care about the league. The officiating this year alone has been the worst I have ever seen.
you ask that on a Michigan blog? As far as hockey crazed US states or areas. Your top 3 are almost certainly Minnesota, Michigan, and Western NY. Of course people like hockey
The real question is, does anybody really like jaylee714
Like this that has made the NHL an absolute fucking joke, it's shit like this that causes fewer viewers and no big tv contract. What a fucking joke, so pissed!
Nobody seems to mention this, but he made the hit not 8 ft. from an official who didn't even plan to call it a penalty.
The reverse angle is really, really bad, and given precedent earlier from the week (which WAS bullshit) this was the least he could get.
Take off your tinted glasses.The hit was dirty. He left his feet (charging) and went high.Dirty is dirty.
Ok watch a replay before posting something false.
I think you should be the one that needs to watch. I am only posting the truth here. Support the player not the hit. The hit was dirty. Justin is known to do dumb stuff ever so often.
Me and you would get along great while watching hockey games. This is like the 3rd thread about hockey where you said basically what I was thinking. Anyways I thought the hit was clean, but due to the Eller hit he had to get suspended. As far as the Weber incident, it was a cheap shot, but I've been watching hockey all day and guys have been choking each other and pinching each other in the face and no one is getting suspended. If he bashed Z's head in the glass last year and he got hurt I'm guessing Weber gets a suspension. These are two arguments I have been annoyed with as of late. Abdelkader takes dumb penalties at bad times, it is what it is look at the San Jose series a few years back.
If it matters at all Shanahan has admitted he made a mistake with the Z and Webber incident from last season and apologized.
I have known Abs from growing up in muskegon. He is a knucklehead. love the kid, but sometimes he lets the game get to him.
the fact that Z wasn't injured had jack to do with Weber's intent last year. And yes suspending Eller is also more evidence, that Shanahan has no idea what the hell he is doing. It should be about the intent, not the result, unfortunately Shanahan has proved he doesn't care about what the player's intent was over the last couple of years.
of charging, his feet were on the ice when he made initial contact. If that is a charge than every single hit Kronwall has thrown the last couple of years and 50% of the hits in the league should have been called charges.
Also regardless of what you think of the hit you want to explain how it is more dirty than slamming a guy's head into the boards when the game is over with?
I don't think you understand the definition of charging.
The onus is on the attacker to recognize when a player has is head down, not on the player getting hit.
That's absolutely and unequivocally false, and the NHL rulebook spells it out in Rule 48. If a player puts his head down, the officials are instructed to take that into consideration when determining whether a hit merits a penalty, and it's spelled out in black and white in the rule book. Take another look at any of the big Kronwall hits (specifically Voracek) and you'll be able to see in real time how that comes into play during an NHL game.
WRONG!!!!! The NHL at the beginning of the suspended season sent a memo to every player as part of the agreement of from NHLPA from Shanahan to make an effort to prevent head injuries. It stated that the onus will now be on the attacker to take into account the position of the player being checked.
Kronwall is a dirty player as well. I love that he is on the wings, but he is a dirty player.
I swear this is board is the most ignorant collection of hockey fans I have ever encountered.
that the onus has changed from targeting the head of a vulnerable player to hitting a vulnerable player in the head (I'm about 99% sure that's the "change" you're talking about) being completely illegal, you were absolutely incorrect above.
As far as ignorace about officiating, I'll say that I'm quite confident in my ability to evaluate a hockey game and the on and off ice officials. Whether that confidence is warranted is a matter of opinion, but I don't think I've ever posted anything that would imply I'm ignorant about any of those aspects of hockey.