OT: Abdelkader hoping to return soon; Engelland suspended five games

Submitted by justingoblue on

Dizziness gone, doing more each day hoping for no setbacks.

Abdelkader story.

On Engelland, the only thing that stuck out to me was that it appeared he had his eyes locked onto Abdelkader's head, although using replay to judge that isn't necessarily fair. Shanahan cited an earlier suspension for contact to the head that Engelland served in 2011, and five games seems more or less fair if that's the price for being a repeat offender.

FWIW Abdelkader says he didn't think it was match/suspension worthy, although it's not like he's going to say anything else.

 

mgobaran

December 18th, 2013 at 3:38 PM ^

Yeah. It hasn't been the best season. Idk how we are still in the playoff race. Thank god we moved to the Leastern Conference eh?

I think the slow start can be attributed to the team trying to gel with 2 new top six guys. Idk why Gustav started the year in the AHL. When we had that Gustav-Anderson-Tatar line going last season, we really started humming. Then the injuries came, and right when things were looking better, the 2013 curse came down upon them. 

I think we will have plenty of time to get healthy, and then heat up going into the playoffs. Watch out for that post-olympic break run the wings go on every four years!

Meson

December 18th, 2013 at 4:24 PM ^

Gustav started the year in the AHL because Holland re-signed Cleary which took the last roster spot. Tatar couldn't get sent back down without clearing waivers (he absolutely would have been picked up) so they sent Nyquist back down. But he's now played enough NHL games that if they send him back down he'd have to clear waivers (he absolutely would be picked up) so he's in the NHL to stay.

mgobaran

December 18th, 2013 at 4:37 PM ^

I understand that Cleary took his roster spot. & the whole waiver thing. I don't understand how you resign Cleary or don't get rid of TooToo or Sammy while you waste Gustav in the Minors. 

Fhshockey112002

December 18th, 2013 at 5:21 PM ^

Were unable to use amnesty on Sammy last summer due to his "injury." Moving to the East I think they wrongly over valued Tootoo, and then must not have felt comfortable with Lashoff, Almquist, or Oulett to use the amnesty on Quincey.  So if you are paying a guy $3mil per season and can't move him (Sammy) you handcuff any other moves to make. 

goblue20111

December 18th, 2013 at 5:54 PM ^

That was just a bad move in my opinion. One problem is that there's been a little too much loyalty shown in this organization. And this is coming from a guy who defended Cleary back in 2006 when Pronger absolutey wrecked him against Edmonton for being the only Wings player that had the balls to challenge him. 

 

Sac Fly

December 18th, 2013 at 3:51 PM ^

The last five years Detroit has neglected the blueline in the draft. Since 2006 they have only drafted five defensemen in rounds 1-4. They have drafted 12 defensemen in rounds 5-7 during that time.

2007: Brendan Smith, 1st round

2008: Max Nicastro, 3rd round 

2009: Gleason Fournier, 3rd round

2011: Ryan Sproul - Xavier Ouellet, 2nd round

 

 

Fhshockey112002

December 18th, 2013 at 5:24 PM ^

Couldn't it be said that the Smith pick looks like it worked. He seems like he will become a decent NHL defenseman now. Ouellet looks very good and impressed in his short stint with the big team. As for Sproul his numbers look like a very talented and could be a top 2 defenseman (6G, 12A +16 in 26 GP) very soon. So hiting on 3 defenseman who make the NHL isn't exactly struggling in the draft. 

 

Sac Fly

December 18th, 2013 at 6:16 PM ^

I didn't say they struggled in the draft, I said they neglected the draft.

The bust rate among defensemen is high, so taking three guys in the first four rounds in four years is not a winning draft mentality. Those draft classes are starting to contribute in the NHL, and the Red Wings got one player on the blueline.

Go through 13 years of drafts. The Red Wings have gotten NHL production out of Smith, Kindl, Quincey, Ericsson and Kronwall. That's it.

The 2011 draft class could end up being great, but those guys are in the minors and not helping the NHL team right now.

mgobaran

December 18th, 2013 at 3:31 PM ^

Yes, that was the LTIR / Injured Scratch List for last nights game. Outside of the Top 6 forward mins we are missing from that list, is arguably our best defenseman & our Starting Goaltender.

Now you can say what you want about Weiss not playing like a top 6 guy on the stat sheet this year. That is fine. He is probably more defensively sound than guys like Jurco & Sheahan at this point in their careers. Franzen has been on a tear for the past month. Gustavsson has had better number than Jimmy so far, but I can promise you that a healthy Howard doesn't give up 3 and get pulled in the first of last nights game. We know what Abby & Helm (poor damn Helm) can bring to this team as 2-way guys, and Nyquist is the most NHL ready young guy on our team.

The way this team has been playing is in no way representative of how good of a team we are, or what we can accomplish this season. 

Meson

December 18th, 2013 at 4:26 PM ^

A healthy Howard has been giving up tons of goals all year. He's gotta get back on track or Gustavsson will earn the starting role.

Howard got tons of losses even when they were scoring and is TERRIBLE at shootouts this year. Gustavsson isn't getting goal support and is way better at shootouts (the one against Tampa Bay was a great effort by him in a SO loss)

AriGold

December 18th, 2013 at 3:56 PM ^

Helm, Franzen and Z really hurts...missing Jimmy is like missing a highly mediocre player who is inconsistent night in and night out...looking forward to the next couple of years when Mrazek is between the pipes and dominating!

Trebor

December 18th, 2013 at 3:56 PM ^

Oh good, now I get to listen to the Pittsburgh radio people talk about how it's such a travesty that Penguins players are getting suspended and acting like they're the classiest team in the league and wouldn't stoop to such goonery.

The Crootin' Crouton

December 18th, 2013 at 8:12 PM ^

THAT was a five game suspension?  The NHL might as well go the way of the NFL and start letting 12 year old girl scrout troops sign up.  If this is what is considered  a "suspendable  hit, I'm going to have to teach my 12 year old nephew what the wuss-boys in the league office consider okay nowadayd.