Tigers trying to comeback from 4 zip.
Bases loaded, no out and Cabrera at the plate
And of course Cabrera comes through with a 2 run single cutting the Reds lead to 4-3.
Boesch had an earlier solo shot to account for the Tigers first run
If we want to do anything this weekend, we're going to have to stop throwing grapefruit to Votto, or he's going to drive in about 15 during this series.
Seems simple to me, but a team like the Reds you can't let Votto beat you.
On a side note can someone explain the history of a bunt foul being strike 3? I get that you should be able to make contact bunting every time but when/how did that become strike 3.
Also i feel like 80% of my comments on here are not related to Michigan.
I don't know the history of the bunt rule but it seems like a no brainer. You can't allow someone to bunt foul numerous strike three's waiting inevitably for the pitcher to miss with ball four. It would make the oft tedious game of baseball intolerably slow and boring.
That's exactly what happened in the late 1800's or so. At the time, there were slightly different rules for strikeouts, so guys would bunt foul any pitches they didn't like, and then get one they liked, and off they went. Remember, back then the homerun was a novelty (the dead-ball era, of course), so bunting was a much bigger part of the game.
Then 1920 came around, the ball was changed, and Babe Ruth commenced launching baseballs over skyscrapers, and here we are today.
Makes plenty of sense. Just figured there might be some story about an epic 80 pitch at bat or something that caused the rule change and a quick googling didn't pop anything up.
Personally bunting short of the 9th inning with a runner on 2nd and no outs or a pitcher is useless to me.
Good to see that Legendary Lloyd fucked around until June to find a flaw in Boesch's swing. Imagine if someone had spotted something earlier.
Maybe there actually was something wrong with his swing. He tied it up at 4s for us and Miggy has a fly ball die on the warning track.
Boesch is now 5-8 with a couple RBI and a HR in the last 2 days
Moving Boesch back to the two spot has paid dividends the last couple games.
4 all heading to bottom 7, thanks to a 2 out run scoring single from Boesch
Reds are playing Tigers 2012 ball; score early and then sit and wait for the opposition to catch up
Leyland said they found a hitch in his swing the other day and he's had consecutive multi-hit games since then so it could be that.
Big homer for Delmon puts the Tigers up 5-4 as we head to the bottom of 8
I bet Below is a helluva athlete; That was a good sac bunt laid down and Below was on top of it in a heartbeat, making the play at first with ease.
He looked fast going down the line on his ground out too.
WTF Leyland. Ortega? There? Are you batshit insane? Leave Benoit in, directly to Valverde, Coke, Benoit or Dotel or something...nah JOSE ORTEGA
Actually, it was Below instead of Benoit, but your point holds all the same.
Typed benoit later and musta just fucked up the names. Still makes no sense to me though.
I thought the same thing, but Dickerson said Benoit is unavailable and both Villareal and Dotel were a bit fatigued, but ya it's still a sketchy move.
I thought he pitched pretty well. The pitch he gave the double up on was pretty good. 97, right on the black on the inside corner. Props to the Reds hitter really. Then he got a ground ball, it was just hit in between short and third. And Leyland has always been fine with throwing guys into the fire for their MLB debuts.
You don't have a rookie make his debut with a RISP in a 1 run game in the 8th. You're asking him to fail. I disagree with the trial by fire shit (obviously). 2nd game? Sure. Debut has enough butterflies.
I don't disagree necessarily. But he wasn't going to put Coke in til the lefties starting coming up. No idea why Dotel wasn't used though.
I'll be damned. Coke struck Votto out.
Ha, I know you were poised to rip Coke a new one if he gave up the lead.
And I wouldn't have been the only one...
Below and Coke own Votto
Owns the Tigers
Sometime this weekend we've got to see what happens if Cabrera can catch up to Chapman's 100+ smoke. That might be glorious.
As well as we have done with the Berry call-up so far, we've missed with Young just as badly.
Benoit has been having trouble with his arm, unfortunately, according to the guys over at Blessyouboys. He might even hit the DL. I do think Dotel should've been in that situation instead of Ortega; almost seems as if Leyland likes to baptize AAA relief call-ups by fire (Villareal against the Yanks in a tie game, 9th inning, is one example)
Easy to tell Rod Allen has no confidence in Coke. Allen keeps mentioning that Coke better be careful with his pitches or else....
Coke's biggest problem has been his inability to deal with adversity behind him. Last year, as a starter, he would sail along for 3-4 innings at a time, until someone had a misplay behind him, whether it be an error, a missed double play, what have you. Next thing you know, 3 runs were in.
I'm just glad we didn't kick one in the field, as it would have been Game Over in Cincinnati.
Must be an issue with Dotel because Villareal is warming up in the bullpen and it was said before that game that Leyland didn't want to use him tonight
I understand that Rod wants to slurp on Dusty Baker a bit. Fine. But Jesus Christ, Rod, the Angels did not steal the 2002 World Series from the Giants.
He's right. Giants were up 3 games to 2 in game 6 and had a 5-0 lead going into the bottom of the seventh. Angels scored three runs in the 7th and 3 more in the 8th. Angels went on to win game 7. They were 8 outs away from the title.
Matt Young WTF?
Uh-oh...Here comes the end.
Going to need some fancy pitching to survive the 10th.
A safety squeeze. I didn't have that in the pool.
I blame Leyland and the Toledo Mudhens.
Tough loss but an entertaining game. Hopefully Verlander returns to form tomorrow
They can't keep losing games like this though, the Tigers really need to start winning series instead of just salvaging 1 of 3. Tonight was a game they should have won after coming back to take the lead in the 8th.
Well yeah they need to win some series but the shit just ain't happening right now.
You reference the radio broadcast quite a bit. I don't know how you can listen to those guys, I find it very difficult to listen to more than a couple of minutes, be the Tigers winning or losing. I would much prefer the much criticized duo of Rich Rizz and Bob? Rathbun.
I enjoy Dan Dickerson quite a bit, he's no Ernie, but he explains the game very well and puts a good picture in my head while I'm working, I could do without Jim Price though lol.
As for the tv broadcast I think Mario is good and knows his bounds as a PBP guy, but Rod Allen gets on my nerves. He is generally knowledgable of the game, but my god he's like Jon Gruden, just incapable of saying anything negative and that gets on my nerves. Just call it like it is Rod, no need for sunshine blowing all the time for a team under .500.
I think Dan Dickerson would be much better if didn't limit his scope of the baseball game to Jim Price's unimaginative and dreary take on baseball. Plus Dickerson and Price are overly typical kiss asses. Also I know if I put the game on radio (only happens if I'm driving), within 20 seconds Price and Dickerson will be going on and on and on about the fucking pitch count. Not just the fucking pitch count for the game, how many fucking pitches the pitcher has throw this inning, how many fucking pitches the pitcher has thrown this at bat. There's no fucking end to pitch count mania.
Hah I agree on their pitch count rants, but I dont think the kiss ass as much as Rod Allen does. Price and Dickerson point out lots of things, like a ball getting thrown to the wrong base allowing a runner to move into scoring position. You will never hear Rod or Mario say things like that, and Price really grilled Scherzer on Wednesday for grooving so many fastballs over the plate in 0-2 counts. They are much more critical of the team than the TV broadcast is, notice when the Tigers are losing how little Rod says, it turns into Mario just calling the PBP.
I prefer listening to the game on the radio than watching on TV. Baseball is so much more enjoyable on the radio because of the long season. People tend to micro-analyze way too much because so many games are played. Better to just sit back, drink a beer on the porch and listen to them describe it.
I love listening to baseball on the radio; just not the Tiger radio broadcast. Ernie, Jack Buck, Harry Kalas, the Yankee guy, Tom Cheek and Jerry Howarth in Toronto, Marty Brennaman in Cincinnati, Jon Miller and many others. I know some of these guys I mentioned are dead but they're still better than the Detroit radio broadcast.
Just thank your lucky stars we don't have the Indians broadcasters. I don't find DD and JP that obnoxious. They're not great, but they do a good enough job. Radio legends are going to be few and far between from now on. Teams will probably put the more talented guys on the television team.
It's a long season, but I'm sick of waiting for our turnaround to happen. Hopefully it's in swing next week when I'm at Wrigley.
wow, the Tigers just can't get a win. I was really hoping for a great season but it's not to be.
Would be just like this season for him to go 5 for 8 w/ bunch RBIs finally, just in time to head to DL...
Fire Leyland. It is time.
From the Reds V Tigers game. I snagged a foul ball and had a great seat behind the visitors dugout. I love games like this one, i was at a game last year where Votto hit a three run shot, in the bottom of the ninth, to win it. I am going to the sunday night game too.
Talk about a team that consistently doesn't make winning baseball plays when they matter. This National League stretch is key. IMO if they don't come out of it .500 or better in overall record, it's time to strongly consider selling off parts by the July 31 deadline.
Get ready for an offseason like the 08-09 offseason where there will be a greater emphasis on finding defensive players. (Laird, Everett, Inge to third base) Then you'll see a rebound next season like in 09. Trying to hide 4 DH's in the field hasn't worked.
In defense of our pitching, so many balls that get hit are not getting fielded (highest percentage in baseball), that they can't feel comfortable. It has to eat at them mentally and distract them.