GOOD! Good luck young man
OT - 5 Star DT Eddie Vanderdoes Not Going to ND
UCLA is gonna take over LA... I can only hope.
USC football is in a downward spiral (for USC standards) and Mora is ten times the coach Kiffin is...but Mora will be NFL bound in a year or two (UCLA never has and never will pay the money for an elite football coach and support staff) and Haden will fire Kiffin after sanctions lift (provided Kiffin does not real off 10/11 win seasons in the next two years) and pay top dollar to hire a big time coach.
I agree with this, unfortunately.
I'd like to see some funny red faced Kelly .gif come up at some point.
Kelly must have broke his promise to get Tito on the phone
I'd find that pretty interesting if he leaves Notre Dame because of an academic issue but enrolls in UCLA instead. Isn't UCLA just as tough, if not tougher than Notre Dame in terms of its academic standards?
I think that may be the PR spin going on. About a week-2 weeks ago he flat out said he simply didnt want to go to ND anymore. Case of cold feet if you will.
I believe he is actually a fairly accomplished student by football student-athlete standards. I don't think there's a lot of weight to that rumor, and believe it's more a combination of people throwing out a possibility for why he's not going to ND to try to understand, people throwing out the possibility and seeing what sticks, and people trying to make him look bad.
Yes, but that doesn't mean they have the same admissions standards for athletes. Remember Anthony Standifer couldn't get in to ND or Michigan even though he met NCAA requirements.I believe they require one more math class than the minimum.
Not sure if the OP is getting that from old information, but the rumored academic issue was reported to be false. If this was an academic issue ND would not admitted him and the LOI would be voided. ND wanted him.
My info was from an insider tweet about a problem with a High School class and was outdated. It looks like Eddie just had a change of heart.
I bet this is about a chick, I just get that feeling here...
You should have titled: 5 Star DT Eddie Vanderdoesn't go to ND...
You are correct, this was an opportunity missed.
Automatic upvote from me, someone should assemble a team from ND Scheudenfreud.
It is amazing how many of NDs top commits that haven't actually made it to campus or transfered the last few years
I think that, in the last year or so, that would make for at least four players that had five stars from at least one of the services that committed to ND and ended up leaving. I think Davonte Neal, Gunner Kiel and Aaron Lynch would be on that list anyway, as well as Chris Martin. They've lost about 1 in 5 four-stars from the last few classes as well, which is also signifiant for them.
The rumor has been floating around for a while now... Seeing as it's Notre Dame, I'm glad in this case where there was smoke there is now (tire) fire.
btw... for the connoisseurs of Irish 'freude.
Oh splendid. I don't even have to go looking for it. You're the best. Thanks.
There were several people who thought he would commit to UCLA before he committed to Notre Dame. And after he de-committed from USC.
What the hell. Do people just downvote you for shits and giggles?
Woo! Makes the 2014 ND game a mite easier...
Yikes. I'm guessing Eddie Vanderdoesn't like that response at all.
Vanderdoes was not released from his LOI, and therefore, he is losing a year of eligibility. He will be forced to sit out the 2013 season and will then have 3 years of eligibility remaining in a 4 year period. He must have really wanted out of ND.
From ESPN's Joe Schad:
"Vanderdoes' father, also Eddie, said Notre Dame did not release Vanderdoes from his binding National Letter of Intent.
Because of this, Vanderdoes' father said his son will be penalized one year of playing eligibility. He can take a scholarship and practice this season, but he must redshirt and will be eligible to play only three years of college football in a four-year period."
what a d-bag move by Notre Dame... rivals d-baggery of Derek Dooley...
This is actually one move I agree with ND on. Otherwise a LOI is worthless. The Dooley thing was especially douchy because there was an illness in the family. AFAIK, there isn't such an issue with Vanderdoes.
maybe you're right, I just don't like reading about kids losing a year of eligibility over a change of heart... but I can see how it would open the door for everyone to start reneging on signed LOI
Guess what - if I would have changed my mind about college at this point in the game, my other good options wouldn't have accepted me at all because my spot was filled. I would have had to complete my freshman year somewhere and apply again (and maybe not get in the next time around).
At some point you need to learn to make an informed decision and either live with it or face the consequences (which aren't that steep). I don't feel bad for him.
Actually, if you have doubts about your choice, you can just pay separate deposits (UM's is currently $200, ND's is $500 and UCLA's is $100), which is not a terrible route to take.
Down voting Magnus is on my mgobucketlist
Looks like SOMEONE'S not telling the truth...
I wouldn't trust Brian Kelly any farther than I could throw Eddie Vanderdoes.
Thats too bad. I love me some ND football.
...I'd like to know the REAL stories behind their recruitments. Toss Gunner Kiel and that Zeke Pike kid in as 2 other stories I wouldn't mind getting the 30 for 30 on. Lastly, and sorry Michigan fans...Ronald Johnson.
And who are Michigan's three biggest rivals?
Most Michigan fans like to know about the teams Michigan is facing. That's especially true with respect to Michigan's biggest rivals. Do you honestly watch Michigan play MSU and not know anything about MSU's roster?
Not a ton going on. I reach the end of the Michigan-centric Internet pretty quickly around this time of year.
Vanderdoes has enough time to change his mind at least three or four more times by NSD.
I don't follow ND recruiting, but are they in the running for a lot of top talent? It feels like they are whiffing a lot for a team coming off the national championship game.
Of course they are. There are two 5 stars already on board.
Atleast one is expected to transfer
"We did not release him from his national letter of intent in order to protect the integrity of that very important program."
Is that bullshit I smell in the breeze?
A lot of ND kids signed a LOI to play for Charlie Weis. Did ND "protect the integrity of that very important program" when they thought it was in their interest to make a change?
Thats why you sign to the school, not the coach.
Notre Dame.....Ha Ha
won't release him from his LOI, are they able to sign someone else or does it count against their scholarship limit?
It's a transfer for all intents and purposes, so his spot will be an open scholarship once it's done.
By enlarge its an open scholarship? For all intensive purposes does it matter if it was 1 year or multi?
/Ohio fan coworker used "by enlarge" in a note today. Had to share.
UCLA chicks are wayyyyy hotter than ND chicks. It would be a no brainer for me.
If in fact, chicks were the issue, then you are dead-on right there. Pasodena and surrounding area has it going on. ND has some very hot girls, but they are few and far between in comparison.
UCLA is not in Passdena.
What about Pasudena?
Isn't it in Louisiana?
That's not really saying much. Every place has SOME very hot girls.
You lose players here and there, it happens. Any large group of people will contain those who dislike the current arrangement of the group and opt to strike out on their own. However at some point when you have this much top talent jilting you on NSD, leaving after a year, or not showing in the Fall, you have to question the coaching staff there.
Although I suppose Kelly bought himself a few more years when he traded on ND's name to win the honor of being Alabama's chew toy for four quarters.
Im surpised some of these players make it thru school. I went to Kent State and the players who didnt play got hot chicks. Imagine if you were a star at USC/Texas/SEC school, i think it would fall off by graduation lol.
Don't know if this is thread worthy but Kyle Allen, a qb Urban was going after pretty hard, just committed to Texas A&M. Should be interesting to see who they scramble to go after next.
From what I have read, he was more of a Notre Dame lean than OSU but, either way, AWESOME.
I agree with ND not releasing him. But it seems like something else is up, otherwise why sign the loi in february only to want out a few months later.
It is good for nd not to let him out of his loi instead sending out the message to all recruits that the school they sign with can do this. Basically, sign with the school you want to play for and make sure you know before you sign.
You have to sit out a year to transfer to another FBS school like UCLA, so there already is enough of a deterrent.
ND just comes off looking like a bunch of dicks. We don't really need them to "protect the integrity of that very important program" on behalf of the rest of CFB.
But hey, thanks anyway. I'm sure potentiial new recruits won't notice how you treat players once you have them "locked up", so to speak.
So.. A 5 star recruit saunters up to the M table and says I am going to take this chair. Puts his name on the chair. The table is now full, there is no room for someone who, you know, really wants to be at the table. Then he gets up and leaves and leaves you one chair short of a full table. A chair you could have used to on someone else.
I don't see the dickness factor here. I am not sure what you mean by "treating players once they are locked up". EV signed a LETTER OF INTENT to play football in exchange for an education at ND. And now, apparently, after all these months its coming out that the intern who flubbed the LOI list on signing day by including EV's name (he was to announce later) its ok to just let the kid go? I am absolutely 100% positive that UM would do the same.
So... how binding is that letter of intent on the school?
It is absolutely hilarious to me that this guy would rather lose an entire year of playing time than play for Notre Dame. It would be one thing if the kid could just count that first season as a redshirt year and get four years of potential playing time afterward... but no... he only gets three years to play.
4 years to play 3 years of eligibility.
Maybe the whole whistles from the stands thing in order to beat Michigan and Stanford thing really upset the kid.
...compiled a list of the 4 & 5 star recruits who have left or decommitted from ND in the last 2 years? It has to be an unusually high number.
How many years of elegibiliy did Lane Kiffin lose when he switched from Tenn to USC? How many years did Brian Kelly lose when he left Central Michigan and Cinci just before their bowl games after promising kids he wasn't going anywhere? CFB coaches are modern day slavers who play the victim whenever a kid decides to switch schools but will switch school themselves whenever it suits them. Difference is kids lose a year of playing football while coaches usually get a raise. Oh, college sports are the bastion of integrity huh?