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I don't think they changed Les at all actually
national champs baby
Patrick Hruby is doing God's work.
first comment: "EVERY ATHLETE HAS ASPIRATIONS OF WINNING AND WE HAVE OUR FAVORITES BUT IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO OTHER STUDENTS ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, TOO!"
stupid Pistons and their refusal to tank properly
rundown of Michigan's riser
needs moar usage
so much for that
This list is completely arbitrary and not a genuine analysis of the relative merits of state fossils.
will be michigan's highest pick in a while
money has to go somewhere
I am only motivated by people who have no opinion about me.
the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection
but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?
Your point about basketball is rubbish. Basketball is probably the easiest sport to upset a team--especially in the age of the three point line.
I have an idea why you are unimpressed with the Miracle On Ice.But due to the prohibition against political posts I shall refrain from pointing this out.
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
nevermind too late
Personally, I hate the self mod system. And I often think there are too many posters here. The flaming from both trolls and regulars is unbearable sometimes to post in threads about the two big sports. If it weren't for the OT and semi-frequent discussion on the non-revenue sports, I don' think I would ever post. Anyone who posts something even somewhat against the grain gets flamed.
It's comically appropriate that this comment was hidden and marked "Trolling."
I knew it was coming
Talk about negs/points/moderating you get negged.
I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.
But complaining about the current moderating system gets you pos'd, no?
But seriously, the points/mod-system isn't the issue. Just a symptom of an intellectual laziness around here that's been developing for a while. When someone posts a different viewpoint, the common response has been more of a "this guy thinks something different! Down mod to hide his comment and maybe call him some names! Best we not engage with any of his backward thinking..." than reasonable discussion.
to a crisp. Don't you realize this is a communist board? Go along. Get your cult hat on, fer godsakes.
As for that game, it was a huge, huge upset at the time. I graduated High School in 1980.
To touch on the older guys getting no respect in these parts, all I can say is some of you whippersnappers are lucky we are old enough to have learned restraint. Otherwise, we'd unplug you from the matrix and expose some truths to you that you really don't want to know, just yet.
And for the record, I still have a six pack at 50. Can still manage to run a 4.6 (4.3 back then). And could pass for 35.
“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win" -Sun Tzu, Art of War
of each claim. it's all good, but show it...
So I can get a point? Make it worth my while and I'll show up.
sets of 20 dips just to stand up for the old guys.
and i take pretty good care of the body i've been given, but i try my best to never talk smack about it. i can appreciate others' efforts though. and the 'worth your while' would be the credibility of your internet soul - that ought to be good enough.
A few points and I'm done with this exchange because I don't come here for confrontation. Or proving anything to anyone.
1. I know what I said is the truth and that is enough for me. That being said, I live in the metro Detroit area and will meet you for beers and satisfy your challenge if we can work out the logistics. Then, YOU can come on here and vouch for me. Because I could care less. I have no internet soul. I am far beyond others defining what I am or must live up to.
2. Last night I got irritated that some of my posts were negged for no other reason than censorship. I also got my ire up after seeing a couple of young guys giving older guys 'guff'. I don't normally 'talk smack' about my physical status either. But I got a bit tired of some of these youngsters assuming 'fathers' are over the hill.
3. I put all three of my kids through Michigan. I could tell some tales about our great institution that are best left unsaid.
4. Clearly, this is not a place for free exchange of ideas. Democracy.
5. I come here because I fell in love with Michigan one saturday morning around 1970. So much so, that I steered my youngest daughter there despite the fact she was accepted at Harvard.
6. Go Blue.
you. a little tongue-in-cheek commentary (though I am an old guy), nothing more.
will meet for beers though when i get downstate. would do that regardless of whether you want to have a mini try-out/track meet.
and I never get another point in this space, I'm cool with that. LOL. But don't get it twisted, you challenged my claims and I offered to oblige you.
I am intense because my formative young adult years were spent in the Defense Language Institute preparing to become a Cryptologic Russian Linguist. I got the top secret clearance with SCI/SBI. I speak (or used to) flawless, fluent Russian. I have done things you would neither believe nor can I talk about. While some of you were drinking it up and deciding who could join your clique, I was in survival school preparing to give my life so you could continue to have the right to create boards with groupthink attributes. At heart and in body and spirit, I am still that specially trained patriot. So sue me.
I know a little bit about a few things. Including attitude.
Everyone has already destroyed you for this comment, so I will make it everyone plus one:
You say "if you know hockey," but you apparently don't. This is not a somewhat better team losing to a somewhat lower quality team. This is is not the 2002 Red Wings losing a flukey game to, say, the Coyotes. This was a permanent, nearly flawless all-star team that NEVER LOST and was able to compete with and defeat the very best professionals, playing a bunch of under-skilled American college players. This is the 2002 Detroit Red Wings losing to the 2002 Saint Cloud State Huskies.
The USSR hockey program was a machine. You must not know about the 1972 Summit Series against the Canadian all-stars, a team that included every great Canadian player except Bobby Orr (including a certain Red-headed college graduate). That USSR team included several players that would still be on the team in 1980; the Canadian team is still a who's-who of hockey greats.
The Canadians barely escaped with a win, after posting a miserable 1-2-1 record in the first four games, all on Canadian ice. They barely escaped with their lives (in one or two situations, that statement is literally true).
That a bunch of amateurs, playing before the days when college players were regularly capable of playing in the NHL, could stay on the ice with the Soviets was inconceivable.
Servant. Pastor. Husband. Michigan fan in Duluth.
Thanks for the hockey history lesson, father...
or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
certainly diminishes what he had to say.
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
I feel like you aren't giving the Canadians enough credit for their Summit Series win. You say they "barely escaped", but it was a very close series, not one they were lucky to win
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
StraightDave owes me a steak dinner
Not my intent. My Dad was from Canada and called the Summit series win (he watched game 8 in Ann Arbor on tape delay after carefully avoiding anyone telling him the result) his proudest moment as a Canadian. I own a full DVD collection of the series, and we watched the Game 8 DVD together in our family room a week before he died. With my Canadian heritage I consider it an awesome series. It was also very, very close, with the Canadians trailing game 8 in the third and only getting the winning goal from Paul Henderson in the dying moments.
The point is, it was also a bit of a shock to the North American hockey establishment that the Soviets could push the Canadians so close to losing. The same system, the same team, and many of those same players that were every bit the equal of the Canadian all-NHL team came to Lake Placid. My point was that the Soviets were very good, and that the Americans shouldn't have even been on the same ice sheet.
In addition to what has been said (Cold War/professional vs. amatuer) this is the one time that I can think of that the entire country has united around a sporting event. I think that is really special, and, while it happens quite often in some places (Europe and Latin America in the World Cup for example), it really never happens in the States.
"I just hope Tressel doesn't fire me"
It was like App St. x 5.
I remember how the Red Wings' "Russian Five", especially Fetisov and Larionov, used to hate being asked about that game every year around its anniversary.
Still my favorite all time hockey team. Watching Federov skate and handle the puck along with Konstantinov kicking some ass.
...was so poor that not a single one of those magnificent young men were Michigan students.
Hard to imagine...even this year's team sent Trouba to the WJC.
But yeah, the Miracle On Ice is still my favorite moment in all of sports. Thanks for the reminder.
like 90% of the team from Minnesota? And a couple from Wisconsin
A couple 'Sconnies, but mostly it was split between Minnesota and Boston.
Boston University- 4
North Dakota- 1
For some reason I always thought there were more BU kids than 4. Eruzione, Craig, Silkie, and O'C represented bigger than they were.
College hockey had a different landscape then. Michigan was down, but even when they ramped back up under Red their initial quality teams consisted mostly of Canadians. The great Denver and North Dakota teams of the old WCHA were mostly Canadian, for example.
Minn and Mass were the places where most good American players developed back then, and they typically stayed home. Michigan didn't start producing a lot of great players until later.
...who saw this game live. ABC played it on tape delay during prime time and put an embargo on its news organization from announcing the result. WXYZ's anchor Bill Bonds ignored that and spilled the beans.
I was living at Selfridge ANGB on Lake St. Clair and watched the game live that afternoon on a CTV station out of Kitchener or London (channel 42, I think).
The Soviet team had a well deserved aura of invincibility. The journey Team USA made to turn themselves into a world beater squad is rightly legendary.
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Heh-heh...Bill Bonds. The original Ron Burgundy.
"That's some catch, that Catch-22," he observed.
"It's the best there is," Doc Daneeka agreed.
I watched the channel 7/ABC coverage and, yes, while Bill Bonds announced "continued coverage of the U.S. hockey team's big win," you didn't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out the results ahead of time just from the ABC coverage. Their cut-aways from the game to Jim McKay (I think) featured a background of drunk people thronging the streets of Lake Placid waving American flags. Small-ish giveaway, that.
Because I'm old and grouchy
I sort of saw it live, but only relatively.
I was a freshman at Michigan and the Olympic hockey was probably the sports highlight of that year with my new friends. I knew nothing about hockey (and still don't, really), but one of the guys on the hall was a hockey player from Buffalo. He made us all fans -- Sweden tie, win over the Czechs, etc. We even talked about just taking a crazy road trip and just driving to Lake Placid. My common sense intervened and ruined what could have been a great lifetime story.
But here's the thing: for some reason the day of the game against the Soviets I went AWOL. I had an Enlish lit class in Theatre and decided to bail on reading Waiting for Godot by just going to watch it instead. The performance was at the Canturbury Loft on State Street and I saw it with two dozen people. (It's a real snoozer.)
Afterward, I remembered that the game would be on TV. I went to Dooleys on Maynard, got in, and saw the game winding down on the big screen. I couldn't believe we were leading and that we were going to . . . WIN. I went nuts. Alone. Because everyone else in the bar already knew we had won.
..this Waiting for Godot alternative?
I was going to ask if anyone remembered him giving away the score.
IIRC - It was during a news update, DURING THE GAME! I was watching with my dad who went ballistic. I was a nine year kid, and told him that there was no way anyone would be that dumb and it couldn't have been the final score. I didn't yet appreciate Mr. Bonds and the likelihood that he was under the influence of one substance or another. My ignorance of Bill's history allowed me to enjoy the rest of the game. My dad, however, really wanted to kick Bond's ass.
"Nobody cares what you think!"
In those days there were three television channels, four if you had a UHF station. In Detroit we could also get the CBC, though it was usually "snowing." The game was not even on live television and was replayed in primetime on ABC 8 hours after the game was played. I remember catching interest in the US team as the tournament wore on, but I knew virtually nothing about any of them when the Olympics began. I believe they had a huge and unexpected win over (Finland?) which kind of got people's attention, only to set up the game against the Soviets, which of course was a certain crushing loss. A lot of people don't realize that this was not the finals, and the US had to again beat a very good team (Czechoslovakia?) to win the gold.
Reversed - beat Czechoslovakia in the group stage, then Finland for the gold.
You've got Finland and the Czech's mixed up. The US played Finland to secure the Gold-Medal
As did Finland. It truly was a miracle on ice.
Just proves that God was smiling down on our strong American team and not those Godless commies.
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Special Teams means special times!
Not sure random anniversaries -- oh, the big 33! -- merit individual threads. Otherwise the board would be filled with them. "48 years ago today, in bowling!"
Totally. This just knocked off the "Tressel to MSU" rumor thread from yesterday morning! C'mon, people, get it together!
on topic news and analysis threads, the threshold for what constitutes a good thread would be raised. As it is, this is a really slow on-topic day and, although 33 is random, it's still the anniversary of the most celebrated American international victory ever in a team sport, and is likely the most celebrated international contest period since the Munich games (from an American perspective, obviously).
What happened 48 years ago in bowling? I couldn't find anything on the googles. Being an avid bowler you can't just leave a guy hanging like that. I NEED TO KNOW
OK I'll help out a fellow bowler but this probably does truly need its own topic. Anyway, 48 years ago today was the first day of the Pikes Peak PBA Open. A tournament in which Detriot bowler Dave Soutar slammed the competition and took home the $5,000 prize claiming his second PBA win.
Is this real or made-up?! Awesome either way, for different reasons.
I didn't mean that the 33 years is the important part, just that it is "Miracle Day", if you will.
The Miracle was and is the greatest moment in American sports. I don't need to be biased to say this--it regularly receives that rating from multiple media outlets and publications whenever such a question is posed.
It's impossible to give such a sporting event the justice that is due on a board like this. I wish I had been old enough to enjoy it when it happened. Unless the US Men's Soccer team wins the World Cup (preferably at home) we will never see something like this again. It was exraordinary.