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OT: 2011 UA-LSU game had 28 NFL defensive players (10 in1st rd)
This is awesome obviously but how many played in 06 mich/osu? We played this game in college once and the number of players we came up with was sizable.
Michigan has had thirteen defensive players drafted since 2006, and two in the first round.
Alabama does half that in a single draft...incredible.
Only 12. Mouton was redshirted in 2006.
And for our numbers with OSU. It was 5 defensive players in the first round with 25 total.
If you want to look at the entire draft together we accounted for 10 players in the first and 43 all rounds if my math is correct.
I wasn't counting how many had played in the game. We have thirteen defensive players drafted total since 2006.
but when I think about how that game turned out, I guess I'm not too surprised. No doubt, those two teams were loaded.
From time to time our fans state that the SEC is noit really the top conference, and unfortunately, they are wrong.
Not to sound like bob stoops, but two good teams had these players drafted, not the conference. How many defensive picks did the Vandy vs Ole Miss game feature?
How about the Indiana-Purdue game? Or Washington St.-Cal? Bottom line is the SEC is the best conference top to bottom whether people want to admit it or not.
Those OU players didn't look too overwhelmed playing a team from a superior conference. Again, not saying the SEC isn't the best conference, the point is does that really matter when two teams play? When was the last game you saw where an entire conference played against another conference? This conference vs conference banter is something espn invented to increase interest from fans of teams that suck. So they would have something to root for.
Right, blame the media. You don't see fans talking about conference superiority all the time in forums. Ya know, like your 2 posts in this thread...
There's no denying the SEC is better than the B1G, but I don't really care. I'm more concerned about Michigan. I believe Stewart Mandel correctly pointed out that people didn't really talk about which conference is the best until the BCS started.
Fans absolutely do. That doesn't change the fact the ESPN has a massive stake in hyping the bottom feeders of the SEC as better than the rest of college football.
Exactly, ESPN owns SEC and Longhorns Network so they tend to hype up all of that just for money purposes.
Just like Fox Sports is a lot more B1G friendly just becuase they own BTN.
How many bagmen between those two teams?
I was working on these figures for an upcoming diary, but in the last three drafts, 154 SEC players have been drafted regardless of position, but it is definitely interesting to note that nearly 20% of them played at some juncture in a single game in 2011. That's something I would definitely say does not happen very often.
11 drafted in 13.
7 drafted in 14.
10-13 projected in 15.
Nobody is touching that right now.
...and built upon it. Big athletes that can move. The SEC and the ACC are aiming to be bigger and faster than the competition. Back in the day of the Miami/FSU rivalry...the talent on the field was mesmerizing. The same can be said for the 06/07 Michigan vs. Ohio games. It's definitely pretty crazy to think about 28 NFL guys on the field at one day in a college game though. Talent wins championships and the current college football trends reinforce that.
Talent is a big factor, but don't discount coaching. Dantonio beat the almighty, unstoppable Urban Meyer and won the Rose Bowl with a bunch of recruits that weren't considered talented enough by the Alabama's, USC's, and LSU's of the world.
Talent can only get you so far by itself. If you don't have superb coaching, good luck getting anywhere.
Dantonio took an 11 win Sparty team up against a 10 win Bama team 3 years ago and got slaughtered. The speed of the elite southern teams is on another level. Coaching is obviously extremely important but you have to have the tools to work with to be successful.
All the more reason to hope for NCAA rule changes to allow players to be paid.
It is hard enough to compete with the southern teams in recruiting because of the weather. The fact that they have a culture of acceptance about paying players under the table makes it even harder.
Some NCAA rule changes and a little Global Warming could level the playing field a little bit.
This reenforces recruiting rankings. LSU, Alabama, and FSU have been killing it on the recruiting trail. We need to get back to where our 2012 and 2013 classes were if we want to catch up.
All those teams also have those great recruiting classes combined with experience and great coaching. While the aging part of those great classes will happen as long as RR like attrition doesn't come along again, the coaching part...well, we'll see.
How many are still playing, I'm curious.
That's what I'd like to know. LSU had back-to-back top 5 picks with JaMarcus Russell and Glenn Dorsey, but I seriously doubt they're bragging about those
People are referencing the 06 game, but to me the best UM-OSU talent showdown was '97. All those mid-to-late 90s rivalry games were loaded.
I'd be curious to know how our '97 championship defense compares, both in terms of how many players went to the nfl, and how long they played.
20 from O and 20 from D, if you count all of the under lassmen who went on, maybe more than that...
And half that team was still playing a decade later. '97 was legit.
but I don't think Michigan and Ohio have put out 28 players combined since 2011.
While the SEC is killing it now, we're reflecting back on a team from 17 years ago.
Both coaching and recruiting count. You can't win a natty without recruiting a top 10 class (nobody's done it yet), but you also need a good coach. Notre Dame has had great classes and hasn't done anything. Same with Texas.
Texas did something, right? Or did they do it with a weaker class. I honestly don't know.
They did it with one special guy in Vince Young, the same way Auburn did it with Cam Newton.
Problem is, that's not a replicatable strategy. Those guys are so damn hard to find.
The SEC has elite talent to waste, and they do.
If I'm an FCS school like Deleware, I'd make a living by just hanging around SEC schools like Alabama and LSU and sweet talking all those elite recruits they oversigned into signing up with me and playing right away as soon as it becomes clear that they've been abandoned.
There's dozens of these guys every year that need a home, and they're still NFL caliber.
They pretty much live off of depth-chart buried athletes from elite schools.