OSU vs UM Speed Philosophy

is fast or he isn't.  You can learn to get a little faster, but being 'fast' is god given.  We don't get those kind of gifts.

Look at how much better JT Barrett is now than he was against VT.  What I would give for our QB to improve that much.  Hell it would be nice to see any of our guys improve like the Buckeyes have. 

There is just no fucking player development here.  Why?  LSU is so much better than they were early in the season, OSU is sooo much better ththan they were.  We get worse as the year goes on.  And our QB is a 5th year senior. 

There is just something fundamentally wrong with this staff in practice and preparation for games.  We get out schemed by lesser teams and play down to the level of those teams, but never play up to the level of the better teams

Maybe our staff simply cannot judge talent.  If we have it, we destroy it, or we just don't have any.

OSU and Nebraska seem to be the only teams in the Big Ten who have enough speed to match up with the elite teams in college football.  OSU has a coach and a QB who can maximize their speed.  I'm not so sure about Nebraska.

The game is faster now.  That's just the way it is.  If you can't recruit speed and then increase explosiveness via the S&C coach, you aren't winning National Championships.  It's that simple.

It leaves talented players behind.  We recruit uber talent and then fail to develop it.  I am more convinced this description applies following each and every game I witness.  Our offense is managed poorly, I doubt a single one of you will dispute this.

Like Quattro said, it's been since the days of Tyrone Wheatley (or Tim Biakabutuka).

A lot of our problems really just boil down to a lack of being able to evolve by the coaching staff, particularly the head coach. I know the head set thing is overplayed, but I want to use that as an example. I think Hoke has said that he's not going to put one on, right? But why not? Because you may end up proving that you're a better coach with it on vs. not having it on? That he might actually be WRONG about something he does?

They absolutely couldn't put Drake in on offense until they pretty much had too. When the run game was struggling, they couldn't try him for a few series in a game against Notre Dame when they were getting blown out? The bubble screen is yet another example. Funchess is the only receiver who can ever be thrown one. He's not a burner. Why ALWAYS run a play like that which pretty much has a 15 yard max that you almost never attain? Chesson has pretty good speed, but God forbid they throw one to him. I'm really tired of this assinine type of thinking that we've seen over the last 4 years...

While I do question the S&C of Michigan, I think there is speed on the team and at the skill positions.  However, it doesn't get utilized that great.  That's not a knock solely on the coaches though.  Part of it is though.  Look at the times with OSU, Oregon, etc. where a player is getting the ball after he's already moving at a quick pace. It's getting the ball to your players in an advantageous postion.  The second part is execution by the players.  How many times with OSU against MSU did you see an OSU player get 5 yds past the line of scrimmage before they got hit??  It's a lot easier to look fast when you get the ball behind the line of scimmage and have 5-7 yds to get to top speed.  One of the TD passes to Smith was just a straight fly pattern down the sideline.  But Barret looked the safety off so the safety was late coming over to help and Barret put the ball right on the money.  If that's UM one of three things probably happen: 1) Garnder doesn't even through to Smith, 2) Gardner stares down Smith so the safety is there to break it up or 3) Garnder's throw is awful.

I don't think it's just lack of speed.  I saw a lot of hesitation and indecision today.  How much is coaching, the players themselves, experience, or some combination it's hard to say.  I think this team does have speed, it just isn't showing up.

Not really related but watching tonight's game made me sad on many fronts.  MSU got beat but you watch their guys and they play with an intensity and edge.  From my perspective, we haven't had that since 2006.  That year the defense and the opposing offense knew we were going to bring the pain and it just happened and they were tenacious.  Watching Hoke it makes sense because he just seems too nice.  Not that Carr was a huge screamer but he wasn't afraid to get in someone's face.  If I have to see one more ESPN shot of Hoke clapping and encouraging I'm going to throw up.  Even the offense in 2006 had attitude with Hart and Henne.  That's what I'm seeing with MSU now that we do not have.  Regardless of the fact that our defense has actually played pretty well, watching Ohio's offense tonight with our complete lack of offense is making me consider having an Obituary theme football party with all our Ohio fans for the Game considering I live in Ohio country.  Pretty fitting considering we have very little hope and Hoke should be a dead man walking.  Atleast make some fun out of the sad situation.

A lot of big programs would love to have him! He may not have the best break away speed but he was suppose to be quick!

This guy had tremendous burst...

Does this count?

I believe his name is Ty Isaac.  He's big and may not look fast, but never seemed to get caught from behind.  I mean with Green and Isaac we have 2 of the top 5 backs from that year.  It's hard to complain about that.  Add Funchess and Drake Harris and it's hard to complain about recievers too.  Maybe it hasn't all worked out yet, but the recruiting is there.  And I don't think we can complain about speed on defense either.  Maybe their young and/or not playing buy guys like Wilson, Peppers, Lewis, Ross, RJS, Bolden, Gedeon, Ferns, McCray, Charlton, Marshall, etc. are all pretty well thought of for their positions.  Recruiting is there, enough speed is there, injuries, player development, and an identity is the problem.