Drink in those Buckeye tears my maize and blue brethren.
FWIW. Michigan doesn't seem inclined to get re-involved.
Drink in those Buckeye tears my maize and blue brethren.
time for tosu to take the blinders off. We knew this all along.
but none of them can read.
"Lantern staff writer assulted in home by group of angry truck drivers"
Perhaps, if the Lantern is also available in a picture book format.
They won't touch it unless it comes with crayons.
i hope he's as badass as his last name implies, because assaulted by a group of angry truck drivers is about the best he can hope for right now.
o/u on death threats he's received so far?
I think his roommate has a poll going around campus, to when he's going to "get his". I put 50 on Opening Saturday, when Buckeye anger will be at its peak.
sentence involving Ohio State, truck drivers, and assault is just too damn lol.
On top of that, you could make a case that behind Beilein, Michigan's basketball program is in better shape than Michigan State's. Happy times are coming.
Wow, an actual objective journalist. And one from Ohio giving credit to The University of Michigan no less.
This student would have a great career if he wasn't going to be hung by an angry scarlet-and-grey mob.
That last guy sums it up perfectly. I want to download that on my iphone and every time any OSU person starts to complain I'll play that guy as their "student body and university" response.
Basically, "a lot of other programs do this stuff, but at least we self report it.... so that's good"
And of course by self-report, he meant months after having actual knowledge and only after it is leaked to the media.
I hope this guy becomes a lawyer for OSU and is charged with defending the football program for years to come.
And I think the first guy was Brian acting like an OSU student. Or Brian's hair at least...
The last guy is priceless:
"I think it's pretty cool that our philosophy is to report the things that we mess up on so I think all the consequences are pretty accurate."
He doesn't seem to understand that they failed to self-report and that there are more serious consequnces coming.
I feel like most interviews bring in people who do not know a lot about what's going on. They never seem to interview the people who actually have a clue. It's sort of embarrassing. I'm sure it's happened to us as well.
"He doesn't seem to understand that they failed to self-report and that there are more serious consequnces coming" -- or that consequences can't be "accurate."
"Well, we're a school that's better known for its athletics than its academics..."
C'mon, son! Chin up!
"He already has three 4-star recruits committed to his 2012 recruiting class, and of his six total commits, three hail from the state of Ohio."
Penny for Tressels thoughts after reading this...
They have had some really objective, and fair articles as of late. When the news of Tatgate first came out, they spoke out against Tressel, and asked for his firing.
OSU Student Reaction:
None of those three idiots put a single coherent sentence together. That was hillarious!
Better shape off the field? Certainly. Better shape on it? Ehh, not yet, and if Braxton Miller is as good as advertised, it will be a while until that day comes.
I don't think the headline matches the article very well. The article is pretty objective. The headline is trolling for readers.
In Michigan's case, the Detroit Free Press broke its story (deiberately) on August 30, 2009, six days before the start of the season. Some were predicting that Michigan, in the turmoil, would lose to Western Michigan and its "future NFL quarterback."
Tate Forcier, an early-enrollee with the benefit of Rodriguez's coaching for several months, come on and led the team brilliantly to four straight wins.
Of course that wasn't the end of it for the serious Rodriguez haters, several of whom had columns with the Free Press.
it could be an interesting parallel in Columbus. If an early-enrollee Braxton Miller comes on like Forcier, and they win the first five games before Posey (he's a big loss!) and Pryor and the rest come back. But there's this long period, before there is any more football. And the hearing in August. It's hard to know, and hard to compare...
The thing is: it's all tainted now. The whole Tressel thing. All the wins. It isn't any leap that he has been making and keeping eligible guys that shouldn't have been all the way along. I mean he did it here AND he lied about it.
Plus there's a prior track record.
Take solace in your precious machine that you all fawn over, but don't think too deep about how it was built. Hope the NCAA doesn't look too deep either.
It is a leap though. Just because you did something once, doesn't mean you did it 100 times. It's very clear that Tress totally and completely screwed this up, but that doesn't mean he did this before. If anything his track record in the community and off the field helps his case, not the other way around. Was 2010 dirty? Apparently. Was 2001-2009? Who knows, but to just assume that it was because OSU was good is homer-ish.
I suppose the next thing you are going to tell us is that Mauice Clarett was lying: that there were no "hostesses" granting sexual favors, no "tutors" to take his exams for him, no golden handshakes, and no free cars. During your time at TSIO, did they teach you the difference between "assume" and "extrapolate?"
Didn't think so.
You are connecting Tressel to something that he was cleared of being involved in after a detailed NCAA investigation. I didn't say Clarett lied, I said Tressel didn't lie for him. To say Tressel knew about Clarett's off the field actions is just asumption without fact. The only reason Tressel knew about the Tat5's actions was because of an e-mail from a lawyer who was breaking the law in contacting Tressel. And this e-mail came 2 years after the trinkets were sold. I'm not saying Tressel acted in the right, infact, quite the opposite, but you have no evidence to show he knew anything before this particular event.
Tressel is a SAINT!! and the Sgt Schultz of Head Coaches..hes Knows NOTHING......Sees Nothing..... Says NOTHING!!
U folks are in complete Denial as to what a dirty coach he is running a dirty program
God tressel just must be a moron..
My college coaches were constantly checking to make sure if I was at class etc..
And you know, 18 year old guys never talk about stuff like porking the hostess or getting a free car..
Just because you did something once, doesn't mean you did it 100 times.
True - but with these things, appearance is reality (sometimes unfortunately). Hence, the fitting "taint" comment.
This ISNT Tressels first Scrape with the NCAA...Since the beginning at Youngstown
State hes been Dirty..PLEASE!..its been a LONG History of Lieing, Cheating. Moeny changing hands and trying to Cover up...Its VERY Clear that OSU fans are so desperate to win
and beat Michigan that they dont care if hes dirty or not or the school is dirty or perceived as dirty as long you Win...
You should hope so. But I'm pretty sure that isn't going to happen. He was the best QB on the field in the spring game and that was with 14 practices to learn the playbook and get acclimated to college football. Sky's the limit.
Miller showed some real nice flashes in the Spring Game. As we learned with Forcier, an early enrollment can make a true Freshman something other than a true Freshman.
Miller has everything going for him. OSU will miss Posey to start, but they have some real power at the RB position. To predict that Braxton Miller will be a bust is the basest of trashtalk.
He was the best quarterback because they let him play with the first string offense against the at best second string defense. He was put in a situation where his rate of failure would have been low, which is what you should do with a young qb to build some confidence. To say that he was the best and is going to be awesome is not entirely fair given the context of the situation. If that is what you need to hitch your wagon to to get through these hard times by all means do so, but I would cool the jets on any talk about how good he was in what was really just a controlled scrimmage.
He played against the first team defense several times. And he was the best. This was clear to anyone who watched the game. And I never said he would be awesome, I said to expect him to be a bust is foolish, there is a difference.
The first team defense is replacing all its senior starters, FWIW.
Every QB had Posey to throw to at various times. They rotated the QB's rapidly, by possession. It is false to suggest that they gave Braxton Miller the advantage of the Ones offense against scrub defenses. Flatly untrue.
If by "a while" you mean 2012, you might be right.
If he resigns (like he should) or he gets the boot (like he should), the rats will start jumping off the Buckeye ship pretty quickly. Then, the game will change QUICKLY my friend.
This was the central argument:
On the other path is Michigan, which, after spending three forgettable years under former coach Rich Rodriguez, appears to be on an upswing after having a breath of fresh air breathed into it by Rodriguez's replacement, Brady Hoke.
Unlike Rodriguez, who engineered a 15-22 record in three seasons in Ann Arbor, Mich., Hoke seems to understand the tradition of Michigan football. He's emphasized defense, the quality of character of his roster and beating "that school in Ohio." He's essentially doing everything short of wearing a sweater-vest like the one Tressel did upon arriving in Columbus in 2001.
Hoke will have a tougher time rebuilding the Wolverines than Tressel did OSU a decade ago, but he appears to be on the right path. He already has three 4-star recruits committed to his 2012 recruiting class, and of his six total commits, three hail from the state of Ohio.
The Buckeyes' 2012 class has five committed recruits, all Ohio natives. One is a 5-star recruit and two are 4-star recruits.
The immediate impact of Tressel's transgressions will likely include his seventh consecutive win against Michigan being vacated. The long-term result, however, will be the elimination of the Buckeyes' dominance against the Wolverines.
What is all this? More of the same content-free cheerleading for Brady Hoke, this time from a rather unlikely source. I actually misread this the first time through, thinking that the author was writing that this fall will "likely include" another Tressel win against Michigan. Which is hard to dispute.
The really funny thing is that while all of Ohio continues to disparage Rich Rodriguez, the simple fact is that he is the best available-for-hire college football coach in America right now.
One of the commenters on the Lantern's website claims that Rodriguez was actually fired because of Michigan's own NCAA investigation, and yadda yadda yadda. And at first you want to laugh it off as being patently untrue. Except that in the inscrutable mess that was David Brandon's postseason "process," it is kind of hard to know if Rich Rodriguez's career in Ann Arbor was mortally wounded by the garbage-story of the Detroit Free Press. (The investigation itself certainly gave no credence to any just cause to terminate Rodriguez.)
I have a bell on my desk that I hit every time you mention the Free Press.
how many bells have you gone through
So many angels got their wings they're each going for a second pair.
The redundant option was installed specifically for Section1.
Doesn't that just mean he's the most high profile fired coach in America? And by the time he's up for any jobs, Urban Meyer might have something to say about that.
But in any regard, while the article is a little woe-is-me over the top (boy, where have we seen that lately?), to have a problem with our rival worrying about us passing them is just, well, silly. You should be glad, not offended.
I don't know how available-for-hire Urban Meyer is. I personally would hire Rich Rodriguez before Urban Meyer. I'd have questions about Meyer's health and personal commitment.
I'll go further; I was being cute by writing "available-for-hire..." Because the fact is, Rich Rodriguez is one of the best college football coaches in America, period. Being "available for hire" just adds to the poignancy at this time in relation to OSU.
Back to the article in The Lantern. It could have been written by Mark Snyder. Or some guy from ESPN, who writes about Michigan football a couple of times a year, and who really only knows what he reads online: Brady Hoke is restoring tradition at Michigan. Michigan is focusing on defense again. Michigan has a new and improved attitude. Michigan's recruiting is looking up. The same baseless stuff that all reporters seem to be repeating whenever they write about Michigan these days.
How is he one of the best college coaches in America..? Maybe the best available offensive coordinators.. But let's all remember the 3-3-5
in America, based on his entire lifetime record and achievement as a coach, and using every imaginable metric one can think of...
...then I hate to imagine what Brady Hoke is.
As for the 3-3-5...
MICHIGAN IS PAYING CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR, TO BUY BRADY HOKE THE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR OF HIS CHOICE. MICHIGAN DIDN'T DO THAT FOR RICH RODRIGUEZ!
Come on Section 1. You know I respect you and your thoughts. I appreciate when I first came on this baord, you were one of the few people to answer my stupid questions. And I love that you are not forgetting what the FREEP has done to the program, but defending RR does not mean you have to crap at Hoke.
I supported RR and I happily support Hoke. Could always be worse, we could have gotten Harbaugh. Hoke like RR has never trashed the reputation of the school.
and in so doing, I said that Rodriguez was perhaps the best college football coach in America. And so that constitutes "crapping" on Brady Hoke... how?
You're gonna need a very powerful search-engine to find much of anything from me that is in any way seriously negative toward Brady Hoke.
All that I have done so far, is to refuse to buy into the media's love-fest with Hoke. Which is all as baseless and as irrational as the hate-fest dumped on Rodriguez. Brady Hoke will get his chance, and whether or not I am enthusiastically supporting him means nothing. I'll say more about Hoke -- he's been generous and classy in his public appearances with regard to Rodriguez. Hoke should be given major credit for that. By all accounts, Hoke's a good guy and probably those who know him would not be at all surprised that Hoke would behave with professionalism toward his colleague Rodriguez.